Freshwater Stingray?

[kazvorpal]

Rays are not to be treated like our normal every day community type tank. While your logic may apply to these types of environments, it most definately does not apply to the world of rays in the home aquarium.

Then explain what, precisely, is the reason for the mechanical interval for the water changes.

The ray has no genetic need for water changes. What, exactly, is the condition that you are attempting to alter, by changing the water so frequently? If it's not nitrates, then what is it? If it is nitrates, then what is the nitrate level that you are avoiding, and what would keep a deep sand bed from preventing it?

Or do you think the water change is an end, in and of itself? Do H2O molecules age?

 

[jpappy789]

Sorry for bumping an old post but kazvorpal, I was not aware that every aquatic ecosystem is the exact equivalent of a glass box full of water. Huh, good to know that I can just let the water sit around like it does in every river, lake, or stream...

 

[xsdbs]

well I was going to reply with "Stingray Bay" here in MI has a couple of new kids from their in store breeding pair of Rays so I'll just post a couple pics that I took of them the other day to show my wife. Oh yeah, the $tag is $2500.

 

[kazvorpal]

Sorry for bumping an old post but kazvorpal, I was not aware that every aquatic ecosystem is the exact equivalent of a glass box full of water. Huh, good to know that I can just let the water sit around like it does in every river, lake, or stream...

I repeat: Explain exactly what the conditions are that you are attempting to alter with the regular water change.

Or is it just some vague impression you have, without understanding its purpose?

Do none of you even know WHY you are supposed to change the water on a regular interval? Do you just do it because you are "supposed to"?

 

[jpappy789]

Remove and replenish. I think the objective is rather simple and straightforward. Other than that I don't need to justify my knowledge on the subject to someone who's obviously just looking to create controversy.

Welcome to the site. I hope you understand that a "know it all" attitude doesn't exactly fit a forum that was established to help people enjoy this hobby. But welcome, nonetheless.

 

[Lab_Rat]

I repeat: Explain exactly what the conditions are that you are attempting to alter with the regular water change.

Or is it just some vague impression you have, without understanding its purpose?

Do none of you even know WHY you are supposed to change the water on a regular interval? Do you just do it because you are "supposed to"?

Replenish electrolytes and trace elements utilized in daily metabolic processes with both fish and plants. Remove waste products produced by said metabolic processes. Many things we do not test for, it would not be practical for the average hobbyist. Just because we can't see them doesn't mean they're not there.

 

[xsdbs]

meow, hiss, hiss ( with claws out) meoww

 

[naliel]

opcorn:

 

[kazvorpal]

Replenish electrolytes and trace elements utilized in daily metabolic processes with both fish and plants. Remove waste products produced by said metabolic processes. Many things we do not test for, it would not be practical for the average hobbyist. Just because we can't see them doesn't mean they're not there.

It doesn't mean they are, either.

This sounds distinctly like you have some vague impression, and don't actually know the reason...which may or may not exist, or have an alternative solution.

"Oh, you know, trace elements and stuff".

Waste products are created from something, and can be broken back down into that same thing. If you don't know exactly what you're trying to fix, you have no idea if what you are prescribing is the only option for doing so.

What you are saying, in essence, is "everyone should do this, because everyone does this".

Meaningless.

 

[kazvorpal]

Remove and replenish. I think the objective is rather simple and straightforward. Other than that I don't need to justify my knowledge on the subject to someone who's obviously just looking to create controversy.

Welcome to the site. I hope you understand that a "know it all" attitude doesn't exactly fit a forum that was established to help people enjoy this hobby. But welcome, nonetheless.

Ironically, it's your side that is displaying the know-it-all attitude. Except that you appear not to actually have any idea what the actual reason is for the thing you think you know that people MUST do.

"Renew and replenish" is closer to "illnesses come from humours and imbalances" than it is to the aquatic equivalent of medical science.

If you cannot itemize what is being "renewed and replenished"...especially considering that there is nothing a generic water change adds except water, so nothing's being replenished...then you are talking through your hat.