Frogs and Bettas ????

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Hi All

I was just wondering if the following combination would work. I've got a 10g tank which has 2 African Clawed frogs in there, and I wondered if I could possibly add a betta ?. The reason I ask is the frogs occupy mainly the bottom area of the tank and it'd be nice having something actually swimming around in there. Would a betta work or is it likely to be frog fodder ?.
 
well you would be taking a chance since bigger clawed frogs are known to go after fish, you would probly have problems, especialy since the betta would probably have bright colors, but heck for $3.50 you might give a betta that was doomed to a small vace, cold temp, little kids tapping on the glass, a good home. Id try it out.

p.s. - mite also help to add more plants to help block the frogs vision so its not always seeing the steak dinner swimming around..
 
You will need a much larger tank for African Clawed Frogs. They get very big! An estimated guess would be that you would need a 50 gallon tank to house the two of them, and if you want fish, you would have to get something that would grow faster and larger than the frogs. If you want a couple of frogs to put in your 10 gallon tank with a Betta, than the African DWARF frog would be the way to go, but it must be the DWARF frog.

Here's a link. I hope it helps. http://members.aol.com/sirchin/afc.htm
 
No dwarf frogs aren't an option I've already got 2 clawed frogs. Besides all which drawf frogs are too small and look generally unintersting i think (sorry dwarf frog lovers but honnestly they are dull creatures) As for tank size well there both around 3 inches, but I've read plenty of sites that say even the larger females grow to about 5 inches. To be honnest looking at the tank even at the size they are now they have plenty of room to move about in, so I'm not going crazy and dedicating 50g to them, seems excessive. Dont get me wrong i've got no intention of keeping them in something the size of a shoe box and if i thought for a second they looked cramped I'd get a bigger tank but they honnestly look fine and have quite a large space to swim about in.

I think I'll probably give the betta a miss. Interesting as the tank would look with one in, I dont really fancy the chance of the fish getting eaten. Shame really cos it would have looked good in there. Infact the only thing I ever did try in there were 3 golden apple snails, and within 4 days 2 snails had been completely ripped out of their shells. I can only assume I've got a breed of frog that's got a clown loach for a cousin or something. Anyway I'll leave em as they are, they look quite content for now.
 
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clawed frogs aren't to be trusted with any fish-

i don't mean to be rude but what looks good to you is a bad reference point- the frogs will need a larger tank 2 3" frogs in a 10 gallon is too cramped- much less thier larger adult size.

it's not just swimming room that they need- it's volume of water to disolve thier waste in and available surface area for good bacteria to colonise in order to process waste

if i were you i'd do more research- read a number of online resources b/c often they are wrong but if you can figure out what facts are agreed upon in the greater number of resources you can be resonably sure that you're doing the right thing. You might also be able to find a clawed frog forum populated with people who know tons about these frogs

by the way, if i'm not mistaken clawed frogs are fully aquatic only through thier juvinile stage and once they reach adulthood, need access to land and air.

cheers and good luck with your cool pets! -Kyle
 
OK OK, I promise I'll look into getting them a bigger home I promise !!!,but I'm now more concerned that they require land in adult hood I've not read this anywhere and heard the only reason why they'd ever leave the water would be to migrate (due to food, or lack of it). I'd be VERY interested to read an article which backed up this comment as everything I've read says nothing about them needing land later in life. Anyone got a URL which says this ?
 
I've just found this article which seems to be quite informative. In the tank/setup section it clearly states these frogs dont require a land area. Though it does say around 10g per frog is a general rule of thumb. So ok a 20g tank in needed here, I'll look into sourcing one, but since my frogs aren't fully grown I think I'm still alright with my 10g in the short term (dont worry I wont forget about em). Anyway have a read of this article.

http://exoticpets.about.com/cs/frogsandtoads/a/africanclawed.htm
 
i did a few quick searches too- it seems they are fully aquatic- like i said in the previous post "if i'm not mistaken" i was.

i don't remeber where i read that it might even have been about a different species entirely
 
when you do upgrade i'd suggest a 20 long insead of a 20 regular- apparently these guys are native to shallow murky water to the shape of the 20 will suit them- pluss it's easier to grow plants in and it has more surface area for gas exchange = healthier environment
 
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