Help im frustrated.....

~*LuvMyKribs*~

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So a week ago i bought another little african dwarf frog for my 2.5 gallon betta tank. I had one a while ago but he didn't live to long, so i decided to wait a while (this was a couple months ago), before i got a new one.

Well last monday i got my new little guy and brought him home to live with my lovely male betta that i've had since before christmas.

All was well for this week they were both eating and living happily.

Then i woke up this morning and mr.betta was looking sluggish and had some white fuzz. 'Fungus!' i thought, and immediately removed him to his own container and added some salt to the water (i had no meds on hand). Mr. Frog was swimming around, acting normal.

I went out and came back several hours later... and both mr.betta and mr.frog are dead! :sad

Why o why did this all of a sudden happen? I had changed nothing.... stuck to routine.... do you think the frog introduced something into the tank that killed both of them? That took a week to 'act?'


And now... of course i want another betta.... how should i clean the tank? Complete wash-down? Will the bacteria live in the tank long after the frog and betta are gone? :sad

I dont think i want another frog after all of this..... :(
 
I've actually had this happen before.... I'm not sure WHY it happens, but I can tell you what I did.... first of all, I find it very very helpful to QT african frogs before putting them in with bettas. its just a good idea. second, do the complete wash down. get rid of anything that could have harmed your animals. you may want to consider how big your bioload was. I know many people keep bettas in one gal containers, but I've found its too much for a betta and a frog.... thats just my experience though.
 
Did you test the water params? A frog will produce more waste then a betta so your tank was probably going through a cycle.
 
I don't know what to tell you about the dying stuff. I agree about the bioload & the quarantine, but sometimes that's not an option. If you can't QT, then make sure you do more frequent water changes when you add the new animal, and add some salt (it helps reduce stress when new animals are added, & it can also help fight off diseases living in your tank). As for the cleaning, here's what you can do:
-Mix a 5% bleach solution in water. Find a sponge or a toothbrush that has never been used on anything, and use it to scrub the tank & anything that was in it really well. If you have those fake plastic plants that aren't plastic (kind of a fabric almost), then I wouldn't suggest using the bleach solution b/c it might bleach out color. Also don't use it to clean the gravel. That solution will kill anything harmful!
-Mix aquarium salts with water to make another solution (there should be instructions on the package for the amount to use when cleaning something), because now you have to neutralize any bleach traces. You can use this solution to clean the plants & gravel that I mentioned above. Scrub the aquarium & accessories again.
-After that, make sure you rinse everything really, really well, and voila! you're done
 
Okay cool thanks guys.

I always wondered if a frog and betta would be too much for the tank... but i always figured i would be 'pushing it' and not really going over the bioload. I have a filter on it which i figured would help out.
Anywhoo... the tank is heavily planted with live plants so i will just take everything out and give it a rinse...i dont think i will use bleach on anything.

I will definatley get another betta but im done on the frogs! :D
 
For a planted betta tank amano or algae shrimp are a cool additon. They pick at algae on plants and are fun to watch. They shouldn't add too much to the bioload.
 
Originally posted by ~*LuvMyKribs*~
Okay cool thanks guys.

I always wondered if a frog and betta would be too much for the tank... but i always figured i would be 'pushing it' and not really going over the bioload. I have a filter on it which i figured would help out.
Anywhoo... the tank is heavily planted with live plants so i will just take everything out and give it a rinse...i dont think i will use bleach on anything.

I will definatley get another betta but im done on the frogs! :D

you know, out of all the aquatic animals I've ever kept that **** dwarf frog was the darnedest! I'm also done with frogs, unless in species tank you just can't meet their needs properly.
 
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