I still have few that compete well with good stealing with the dojo,Kuhli, Orange mini CPO, and pygmy corys bottom crew. I think a good rule is to buy about 10 or so, and usually a few of the strong ones (odds are about 1 in 4 from pet store on average will be healthy enough to make long run if cared for peoperly by you) make it by few weeks, then you can rest easy for a while.