id please

Well the first one is most likely a buttikoferi. The second one isn't a buttikoferi because buttikoferi's don't have tail eye spots after doing some looking that one is probably a Mayan cichlid. The pale faint colored one I am still looking around for, but its not either of the other two species.
 
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i appreciate you looking Nataku. I got the tilapia confused for the mayan cichlid at the beginning, but i'm sure you are right. people fish them all the time here at eat them. in my lake i've seen them get about a foot long or so i guess. they are both very beautiful and are giving me hours of pure entertainment.

thanks again for your help.
 
You catch these in a lake?? :eek: Oh, to live in Florida...If i caught a fish in a lake here it would look like a pig with fins.
 
hey dumber,

there is nothing wrong with pork! pork taste great! i'm originally from Madrid, Spain and i'm afraid to see what would come out of the Manzanares River...since I left Madrid and moved to Florida, I feel like I'm living in a greenhouse....
 
I don't think that that's a T. buttikoferi.

Here's a good photo of one:
http://www.cichlid-forum.com/profiles/species.php?id=1442

Body shape is wrong and buttikoferi don't have that kind of coloration in the dorsal. It's possibly a hybrid between some other species and a T. buttikoferi . . . it's also likely that it's a native species (I have no idea what kind of freshwater cichlids exist in FL).
 
you can't ID young specimens like that with an adult photo. You have to compare known photographs of young fish with that of what your trying to ID for an accurate identification. None of those fish are adults so using adult photos to make IDs is gonna bring back a possible misidentification.
 
I agreed whith natakutseng,its difficult to id juv.My freind breed Tilapia mariae...and the pics are much look alike to them....The audult T.mariae looks different.
 
You could send the attachment to your DNR office and ask them if they know what has been spawning in your area. Most of those kind of folks are pretty friendly.
 
Thank god for people in public service, but most of the people at the DNR and Fish and Wildlife don't know as much as they think they do. We have had a pacu caught out of a local pond up here one summer (it would not have survived the winter) that someone tossed in here, and the Fish and Wildlife people Identified it as a Red Bellied Pirhana and released that to the public, but difference between the two and it was rather obvious it wasn't a pirhana.
 
I'd have to go along with Buttakoferi for the first one. 2nd looks like a Mayan. Next ones are some kind of juvenile sunfish. I can't really tell at that size. The Tilapia were deliberately introduced down there for some reason. Some have escaped aquaculture facilities. Various species all over the state. Some undoubtedly released by aquarists, but most either escapees from fish farms of one sort or other, or deliberately released with the thought of controlling exotic plant growth or other exotic fish. Some were deliberately released to please anglers. Lots of blame to go around. Putting it all on aquarists is disingenuous, to say the least.
 
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