Jack D and RD-possible mating?

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:) Im very excited for a buddy of mine.
The above mentioned fish reside in a 90g. RD is about 8in", w/ the Jack about 7".


In the center of the tank he has a pile of rocks. The 'pair' defends this area vigilantly. Both the partners have there ovipositors(??don't know if that's the correct term) exposed. The JD's is slightly larger than the Red.


From what I can tell, the Jack is the one that lays the eggs. I say that cause visually you can't see any eggs. The rock setup is an odd shape and he has sand for substrate, so it makes finding the eggs difficult. They also seem to take turns fanning the 'eggs'.


Contrary to my previous statement about hybrids- Im thrilled at what could possibly be taking place. Watching this has given me a different perspective on the issue. If all goes well, he plans on selling most of the fry to a reputable LFS. And of course, I would get one or two just cause im special!:D
 
Originally posted by undertow
:) If all goes well, he plans on selling most of the fry to a reputable LFS.
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No "reputable" LFS would pay for JDxRD hybrid fry. One might take them in for free and immediately feed them to a tank full of oscars! But pay for them? Never!
 
Keep one or two and use the rest for fish food. What ever LFS you traded them to would most likely mislable them, and there is a chance the fish from mixed lineage could make it onto the market under a diff. name and screw fishkeepers trying to get a "pure" species.
 
I'm suprised. I thought cichlid spawns usually involve fighting. I don't think a dempsey could hold its own to a red devil. So yeah, it would probably be a good idea to keep a close idea on this pair. Maybe even implement one of mojo's "love doors" in case the red devil decides to get nasty.
 
I was at his house earlier tonight, and they where locking jaws. But, I didn't see any scarring going on. Although it seems mild at this point, he plans on setting up a barricade if it gets any worse.

Also the RD was doing a lot of shaking and shimmying. Intense cleaning of the rocks is being done by both fish. Im surprised that we havn't seen any eggs yet. Can someone post a pic of a female RD w/ a large nuchal hump? I have a feeling his RD is a female, even though its hump is forming nicely....
 
even thow i own cross breed fish, i do know what they are, this is the one point i do disagree with is the selling of these fish, the buyer will not get what he's paying for, enjoy the fish yourself but please dont resell them. like mentioned above no reputable lfs would resell them and use them for feeders, but how many lfs are reputable.


good luck
 
I would raise a few youngs and see how they will turn out. The red devel will provide the red color and hump and the JD the blue pearl spots.

There is nothing wrong with hybridizing if you just keep them for yourselves or have a goal to develop certain traits or look. Discus breeders are doing it with pride and Firehorn is a big deal in Asia. It's bad if it is random hybridizing that lower the quality . So don't sell them to pet shop to contaminated the gene pool. I hate to start another thread on hybrid morality but domesticated animals and plants are full of hybrid and inetably will genectically deviate from the wild genotypes over time.
 
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