New 10 gallon Tank!!!

scott9

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Hi all. Wife and I are complete rookies. We went out yesterday and bought a 10 gallon tank for tropical fish. We cleaned everything in warm water, and its running right now. Temp is set at 78F. We were told by the Petco people, not to add fish for 5 days. And when we come back they will test the water.

1. We are looking for tropical community fish, what would you recommend for us rookies? The store recommended mollies and tetras.... And how many should we buy at the first visit?

2. What type of water tester should we get?

3. We would like to get some algea cleaner type fish, but I would assume you wouldnt want to get them for a bit, until algea has actually started to grow in tank - right??

Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance. Scott
 
Adding fish after a few days is exactly what I was told by the pet store setting up my first tank, and it was the biggest mistake of my life...
Read all you can about cycling, preferably fishless cycling... I did that for my second tank and it was so relaxing not to worry about your fish dying...
Hope this helps a bit...
 
I'm a relative newbie as well, but I've read tons of posts on this site and I'm much more informed! Just surf the forum and you'll learn a lot! Especially read the permanent post (or 'sticky') about the aquarium "cycle" in the newbie freshwater forum

As far as Test kits go, I'd suggest the Freshwater Master Test Kit. Many others have recommended it here and I'm very happy with it as well (It measures Ammonia, pH (both high and low), Nitrites and Nitrates) and is very easy to use.

Cheers!
 
Can anyone provide a link to Davideeka's sticky about the aquarium cycle here? Now that I mentioned it above, I can't find it! :sad
 
Like Stefanie said you need to read up on cycling. fishless or Fishy either way your tank needs to cycle first. If you go with Fishy look up a thread i posted asking for suggestions on hardy fish that can tolerate it.

you have a lot of choices with a new tank but you need to research and ask yourself what kind of tank do you want? Fantasy ( all fake plants and such), planted (live plants) and do you want a showpiece fish like betta or Dwarf gourami? do you want fish to school? Does color matter to you or liveliness?

As much as I love Neon tetras it seems that some of us have been having some bad luck with them lately so if you decided to get them read up ALOT and do lot's of testing before putting them in. they are very sensitive. even with everything perfect i lost all 4 of mine.

I have a 10 gal with 1 betta, 1 albino cory, 1 green cory, 2 panda cories, chinese algae eater, and 3 tiger barbs. This is a potential DISASTEROUS combination but I am lucky enough to be getting away with it. The chinese algae eater is BAD with a betta and not quite suitable for a 10 gal because they can grow up to 4 inches and and the older they get the more aggressive and they can and will kill and betta. The better choice is the peaceful and small OTOS for an algae eater. Tiger barbs are also extermely aggressive ( I had no choice my dad picked them out) but I'm lucky becaue they stay on their side of the tank while my betta stays on his side. Cherry barbs would of been the better choice here.

Cory's are AWESOME I think you'll really like them and if you watch them long enough they WINK at you! they are also bottom dwellers so they don't really intrude on any schooling type of fish.

Anyways good luck! and I'm sure you'll find all your answers here! I know I did. :D
 
scott9 said:
1. We are looking for tropical community fish, what would you recommend for us rookies? The store recommended mollies and tetras.... And how many should we buy at the first visit?

Mollies almost get too large for a 10 gal in my opinion. If you decide on them, get one male and two females, otherwise the females will be endlessly harrassed by the males. Alternatively, you could get 2-3 males or 2-3 females and not have to worry about babies so much.

Tetras are nice, but sometimes hard to keep alive. They are sensitive to water conditions and not good for a new, uncycled tank really.

One of my favorite 10 gallon setups is one male betta and 4-5 panda or pygmy cories. Both provide lots of personality and entertainment :)

scott9 said:
2. What type of water tester should we get?

The main things you need to test for are pH, ammonia, nitrite and nitrate. If you can get a kit that also tests for GH and KH, that can be helpful also.

scott9 said:
3. We would like to get some algea cleaner type fish, but I would assume you wouldnt want to get them for a bit, until algea has actually started to grow in tank - right??

An algae eater isn't an absolute requirement for any tank, but they can be helpful if you have an algae problem. I'd probably hold off getting one up front. Even if you have algae present and add an algae eater, you will still need to supplement their feedings with algae wafers. Plecos are too large for a 10 gal, so I'd look for otocinclus catfish. They stay small and are much more suitable for a 10 gal tank.

I can't close this post without saying that I recommend fishless cycling. It may seem like a lot to learn, but you can always post here for help anytime along the way. It may also seem boring to keep your tank empty for 4-6 weeks, but that gives you plenty of time to research your fish choices and setup all your decorations. It's also a great way to learn about the cycling process and testing your water without worrying about harming any fish along the way.

If you mention a fishless cycle to the pet store people, they will likely tell you you're crazy, but that's mainly because they bank on people buying a tank, setting it up and adding a bunch of fish only to have most of them die and come back to buy more :D

If you do decide to add fish right away, add just one at a time 2-3 weeks apart. That way the ammonia and nitrites will be more controllable and you won't end up doing so much work with water changes to keep things stable so your fish don't get sick or die.

Welcome to Aquaria Central and to the hobby. Just by researching like you are, you've already started out better than most people do! :)
 
1) For fish try looking around and list some that you like. Then post they here so we can tell you which, and how many yo get. Also be sure to cycle your tank. A fishless cycle is the best because you are not harming any fish. Read here:Cycling

2) The best water test kit by far is the AP Master test kit. Found here: http://www.bigalsonline.com/catalog/product.xml?product_id=19383;category_id=3233;pcid1=;pcid2= . This one includes ammoina, nitrites, nitrates, pH, and high pH. All the ones you need for a non planted tank.

3) An alage eating fish isent needed for a tank. Good old sponges are enough to take off most of it. Just be sure that its a new sponge and is only used for your fish. If you have to have one I say get 2 Otto Cats.
 
One thing: STAY AWAY FROM GOLDFISH!!!

If you have one tropical fish that you really like, you can plan on that fish and set up your tank and tankmates around that fish. That is what I did. Use the "Species Profile" on the top of this page and pick a fish. Then, from the description of that certain fish, there will be a link to "Find suitable tankmates: Common, Semi-rare, and Rare" Just click on one of those categories (I recommend "Common"), and another list will open and you can pick fish from there. I felt that it was the best way to pick fish from a completely clean slate. I had no idea what fish I wanted. That "Species Profile" link helped. Then on Liveaquaria.com and many other websites, there are some pictures of the different types of fish so you can see what you like.

I also have to recommend Fishless Cycling. For a 10 gal tank it, if you seed it, it should take about 4 weeks. It will save you a lot of money and heartbreak on lost fish. I did it. It was well worth it. I haven't lost any fish. My fish didn't even have a hard time acclimating. They were right at home right away.
 
Welcome to AC! I'm a relatively new member myself and I am still amazed at the wealth of knowledge and willingness to help on these boards.

1. Fish really depend on what you like. My LFSs (local fish store) didn't have much variation, so I researched my fish at sites like Drs Foster & Smith and I ended up buying from them. At that same site there is a good compatibility chart for easy reference when putting a community together.

2. I like Aquarium Pharmaceuticals Freshwater Master Test Kit, as was referenced before.

3. Some algea cleaning fish only eat algea in their juvenile stage and some commonly sold fish reach enormous sizes, so please be sure to research them. Have you also considered a snail?
 
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