New 40 gallon tank

Smac1977

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I'm getting a 40 gallon tank sometime this week and i'm wondering what kind of fish too stock it with right now i have a ten gallon and i'm thinking of upgrading it.
bolivian rams
some type of pleco
neon tetras
khuli loches maybe?
and some type of gouramid
 
First you have to let the cycle the tank, then you can consider what kind of fish to put into the tank.
Perhaps some angels?
 
I know I have to cycle but after that because I dont like angels im thinking about a bolivian ram based tank
 
Welcome to AC!

Can you post the dimensions of your 40G tank for some good suggestions for tank mates? Also will the tank be a rectangular, bow front or some other shape?

Do you already have some of the fish listed that you will be transferring to the 40G tank?
 
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I already have neons 5 but I can leave them in the ten if needed I dont know what kind of tank specificly but im going to get either a bow front or a retangular
 
We can help more with dimensions of your new tank as Dee said. Bolivian rams & neons seem good together. I like a bristle nose (or bushy nose pleco, same thing). Kuhlis (pangios) would be ok at the higher limits of B. rams & neons temp. They should be ok...

As for gouramis, you need to be careful, & again, what size/shape tank? I will no longer suggest dwarf gouramis, they're just to prone to diseases. Pearl gouramis are biggish but peaceful, honeys are another option...maybe...

Tell us more please!
 
I'm wondering why the dimensions of the fish tank matter so much. Is there a difference between a 40 gallon breeder and a bow front?
 
Dimensions of the tank can determine things like there being appropriate height for species, the ability to create territories can be a factor of the footprint.

You will be able to stock a 40g cube differently than a 4 foot long 40g tank

Dimensions matter more than the volume outside of things like bioload.
 
I'm wondering why the dimensions of the fish tank matter so much. Is there a difference between a 40 gallon breeder and a bow front?
There is a huge difference; height is of course important for tall fishes but that is only the start; many fishes have a level of aggression and if there is too much competition for their 'space' so area is also very important. If your tank is 4 inches high and 50 inches wide and 50 inches long the way you can stock it will be very different than if it is 24 inches high, 20 inches long and 20 inches wide....

Anyway good luck.
 
It's also a matter of surface area & oxygenation vs water volume. That's especially in very tall tanks with a small footprint with insuffient water movement top to bottom & at the surface. A standard 10 inch x 20 x 12 10g tank will support a similar fish load as a 20g tall (like 2 10g stacked on top of each other). There are many "non-standard" tanks that may look cool but can have unexpected issues.

But many things can affect stocking as others have said. I happen to love bottom feeders, so it's more about a tank's footprint but also oxygenation for me.

That's why we ask. We have many different experiences with various species & tank sizes.

A bow front (if I understand the dimensions of your 40g) sounds like it would be ok for the species you listed. My only hesitation is with all the low level/bottom fish. Rams (a male & female pair?), kuhlis,(6-8?) & a pleco (a bristle nose? clown?). With enough caves/plants/hiding places that could be fine. Bolivians are, for cichlids, not too aggressive. But if they breed they'll need a little more room/caves for egg laying & fry moving & care. Other fish will eat eggs & smaller fry if they can...& that's ok...unless you hope for more. ;) that's partly why some of us have several tanks but also so we can keep incompatible species. It's an addictive hobby, lol.

AND since nobody asked yet, I will. How will you cycle the new tank BEFORE you get fish? This is absolutely key to starting a new tank. It can take 4-6+ weeks to grow the beneficial bacteria for a healthy tank. Read the sticky at the top of the newbie forum. This is a VERY IMPORTANT step, don't dismiss it. There are ways to "jump start" the cycle but read lots BEFORE you try these. Many people get into bad trouble by only doing part of what is required.

Really, we all wish you good luck! But there are several ways to do all kinds of tanks. Let us help you, learn for our experiences & mistakes. & be patient with our many quesions...there will be more!
 
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