Plant Newbie Lighting Qs???

ct-death

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Okay, so in general I have come across some interesting info, but I would like to confirm and gather advice from the "experts' please ;)

Esentially, I have found that my 48" dual-40W flourescent fixture from the local hardware store w/ aqua-plant T8 bulbs works pretty darn well...especially for under $40 total (I just spray painted the top black and the inside silver).

Anyways, I understand the concept behind Lumens and Lumens per Watt, however, my main question is why is a 54W 4' fixture cost $90 from one location and seemingly an "Aquarium-Grade" fixture with similar specs run easily into the $300+ range!?!

The bulbs are all T5 or T8s...

Obviously I'm missing something... What is preventing me from buying an off-the-shelf garage fixture for around $80 and just paying for the $18 bulbs sperately for plant growing? Are not all T5/T8s rated for 40 or 54W not universal?

Please, if someone can point out the obvious why a DIY fixture would seemingly do the same job as an 'Aquarium" fixture for 1/4 the price? (besides the fancy cover and design)

I feel like an idiot for not being able to pick up on the obvious disconnect that I am having...

My last question is; what is really more important? Watts per Gallon or Lumens per Gallon? Intuitively, I would say Lumens are. However, with a fixture directly over a tank (practically an 1" or less from the aquarium top) are Lumens particularily important as all of the effective light is being focused anyways, or is the W/G rule just another rule-of-thumb that gets us in the ball-park? <-Understanding that Lumens and focus are critical for fixtures elivated above the tank as radiant (or lost light), as well as distance, are big factors in these styles.

This last point may be the missing 'link' as to why seemingly identical outputs vary so greatly in price as I recall most (if not all) were pictured elivated...hmm.

Thanks in advance!

CT-Death

EDIT:
90G Tank lightly planted with -- Java Fern, Moss & Lace, and Vals and Swords (wishing for a medium planted tank not requiring too much in regards to ferts/CO2, but not afraid to either).
 
Electronic ballast vs. tar ballast for one. That's a huge difference in price.

Purpose is another big difference in price. You can buy the same thing designated for two different industries and pay extremely different prices. It's sort of like buying brand name vs. generic. The ingredients are the same, but the labeling is what you're paying for.

http://www.rexgrigg.com/light.htm for information about how the whole wpg/lumens per gallon works.
 
Okay, I'm not 100% done reading the link you offered, but WoW! Thanks!

Before I go too far what would be a good recommendation? I'm clearly leaning towards the 1x96W, but would a 2x55W be better?

As for DIY canopy, I built all of my kitchen cabinets, SO I think I'm covered there ;)

Awesome link, TY again Nolapete!
 
You're paying for design and lighting efficiency. A unit like a Coralife CF fixture demands a premium price because they are designed to be aesthetically pleasing and compact, while using the more efficient CF lights so you can cram more light in the limited space. The same is true for the T5HO lights, they provide much more light than standard T12s and T8s. This isn't so important in a planted tank but it is a very important issue for reef tanks which require even more light than planted ones. Regular shoplights may well be enough to grow plants if you have room to for enough lights.

Lumens is an inaccurate measurement for photosynthesis. Lumens measurement is weighted towards spectrum that is sensitive to the human eye and it is very possible to have a very high lumen bulb that is less effective than a low lumen bulb like a gro-lux bulb.

http://www.aquabotanic.com/lightcompare.htm

I personally still use the wpg "rule", it works well for what it is meant to be used for, standard tanks within 20-100g. When using the more efficient CF and T5HOs, I just aim towards the lower ends of the rule.
 
I purchased the 1x96 Kit! Hopefully I get it in on Saturday. I will be sure to post my DIY pics for other to enjoy and to help stimulate further ideas! ;)
 
$20.80 shipped is the lowest I could find. All various spectrum bulbs are listed at the same price: eBay, also Naturallighting.com is fairly cheap as well. This was for the 96 Watt Compact power flourescent 4-pin
 
Okay, I got the 1x 96Watt Bright Lighting Kit from AH Supply for $68 shipped and a bulb (10K) from eBay for $20.80 shipped. Grabbed some extra popular from my kitchen cabinets and MAN is it BRIGHT!!!

I HAD 3 40W (48") Aqua/Plant flourescents over the tank... This light is easily double the brightness!

I'll post pics this wekend!

Thanks all for the ideas and for kicking me in the Arse! ;)
 
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