Please Read 2 Fish Dead And One Real Lethargic

cajinfry

cajinfry

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Thanks for reading and I know I have Ich..... I have been treating it since Sunday Turned Temp to 84-85... Treated 50 gallon tank with appriopiate Salt. I have lost 2 fish and a Molly has been laying around for about 3 days... So my question is this.....

I moved the little molly about maybe 1" maybe not to a temp container that I will call the Get well Tank. I filled it with tank water that has been treated I then added a 1/4 air tube to make bubbles.... Is this ok or should I put her back in tank? <---- Really need this answer very quickly Just really concerned about losing more fish... My parameters are in normal ranges I lost 1 fish about 2-3 days ago and now another that seemed healthy All the others seem to be doing OK but really just concerned about this ICH thing. How many fish have you lost due to it? How many could I lose? Should I start over? I am going to do probably a 90% water change tomorrow Should I? Alonmg with a gravel Vac.....

PLEASE DONT TELL ME TO READ THE ICH ARTICLE AS I HAVE FOUR OR FIVE TIMES ALONG WITH OTHER ARTICLES FOUND ON THE NET.........
 
I am no expert, hopefully others will chime in, but Ich takes a while to treat (weeks)and there is no guarantee that it will work. I would have left the fish where she is. What is the amount of salt that you say was appropritate? What are your water parameters? If they are no good, it won't help with the Ich.
 
Keep the molly in the main tank, theres no reason to remove her.

How much salt did you add and how quickly?

What are your water parameters?

Higher temps mean less oxygen. If you use a HOB filter drop the water level so it agitates the surface more or add a bubble wand.

edit: Ok I just re read your post, drop the water level a couple of inches, the splashing while annoying will add O2 to the water.

Don't do a 90% pwc, you'll just stress the fish more. What was your pwc regiment before this? If you've been doing weekly changes you could possibly do a 50% without much stress. But remember you'll need to add the salt back after the pwc.

I've done the heat/salt method and it took between 10 days and 2 weeks. The ich was gone after 3 days but they say to keep the treatment going for a week after the last ich is seen. That way you're sure to get any eggs that are laying in the substrate when they hatch.
 
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I put her back in tank

My parameter are

Ammonia 0
P.H. 7.6
Nitrate 5
Nitrite 0

I added about 1 - 1.5 tsp for every gallon I havfe 50 g tank.

I have a HOB filter with two wheels water movement seem to be good also have a bubble stone in Middle and the the two tubes in back corner with bubble stones in the as well I have 5 prots on bypass and plenty of house I could have 3 more air tubes into water if need be....... Or should I just lower levels?

Chris
 
I just fought off an ICH infestation... or so I thought.. I found a spot on my Rainbow today... @#@#$@#$, but the Clowns look clear....
I think perhaps it takes longer to show up in the other fish...


Did you just do the salt? or did you try meds?

The only fish I lost was a German Blue Ram, and I think this was because of the medication. ... no.. I'm SURE Of it... I MOVED these fish.. they would not have survived another treatment(salt may be different story though). One died, the other is still holding on, and is showing signs of recovery. None of my other fish showed any obvious effects. (knock on wood, I'm still treating).. even the clown loaches look good. However, tank size may mean something. Again, this was my first encounter with ICH... I'm not expert..

Good Luck
 
You don't want to combine meds with the salt treatment. Just stick with the salt/heat as you've read, and also continue it--as IceH2O points out, it can take 2 weeks, for me 3, but I wiped it out and haven't had a recurrence (knock on wood!!) Good luck. Sounds like plenty of aeration going on there, too.
 
canon6085 said:
Here is a link on Ich.
http://www.thetropicaltank.co.uk/hdwspot.htm
make sure you are using aquarium salt and lower the temp to 82f.
Hope this helps...
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FWIW, "regular" kitchen salt works just as well and is less expensive. Iodized or non, no matter...

CajunFry, did you raise the salinity very gradually?

Ich can take awhile to totally dissapear, but once its gone (and you quarantine ANY new arrivals!) its gone for good. Make sure your tanks water is very clean, do more water changes than usual, and keep up with the salt regimine.
 
canon6085 said:
Here is a link on Ich.
http://www.thetropicaltank.co.uk/hdwspot.htm
make sure you are using aquarium salt and lower the temp to 82f.
Hope this helps...
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We have an article here on this site that is a better read and explanation.

Don't lower the temp. If anything the higher the better, take it as high as the fish can stand. Heat speeds up the ich lifecycle making it a quicker kill and clearing of ich from the tank.

After 87/88 degrees ich can't reproduce.
 
canon6085 said:
Here is a link on Ich.
http://www.thetropicaltank.co.uk/hdwspot.htm
make sure you are using aquarium salt and lower the temp to 82f.
Hope this helps...
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That is a terrible article. 6 tsps per gallon? Do they want an ich treatment or fish pickles? You should not need to go higher than 3 tsps MAX and 1.5-2 tsps will do nicely.

Copper should NEVER be put in your tank; there is no way to remove it and it is very toxic.

The temperature needs to be INCREASED, not decreased. You want to speed up the life cycle to get the cysts off the fish as soon as possible. The cysts will kill the fish. The sooner they come off, the sooner they are killed in the free swimming stage.

Regular table salt works fine as was already mentioned.

Roan
 
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