pregnant guppy in soda bottle?

sumthin fishy said:
To elaborate, goldfish are coldwater fish. If the plecos are the common varriety they will outgrow the tank. I have to assume the 10 fish under 2 inches will get bigger than 2 inches, and could you tell me what kind of catfish? I know this doesnt relate to your origional question, but I see a problem and would like to help before it becomes worse.
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The plecos are just some cheap black ones. i have always had gold fish with my tropical. the cat fish is over 5 years old and is about 2 inches (dont know the kind). the other small fish are 4 guppies, 1 molly, 3 zebras, orange sword fish, and there are 3 other small things that are a couple years old and stopped growing
 
Well, the plecos will definatly outgrow that tank. You might try some of the smaller pleco species. A bit more expensive, but usually more interesting and they can live long happy lives in a 55. I will assume you have never had a goldfish live for 20 years since they are in improper conditions. I didnt always do the right thing because I didnt know what the right thing was. But once I learned I did change how I did things. Goldfish are coldwater fish and have different dietary needs than tropicals. the other fish should be fine since they all stay smaller. I am still curious as to the catfish. Not many stay that small. Is it a bumble bee mabey?

To your origional question, if you have an extra fish net, you could cut the mesh off and use the soda bottle as a frame to make a breeder box. If you didnt have a net you could use a clean pair of panty hose.
 
sumthin fishy said:
Well, the plecos will definatly outgrow that tank. You might try some of the smaller pleco species. A bit more expensive, but usually more interesting and they can live long happy lives in a 55. I will assume you have never had a goldfish live for 20 years since they are in improper conditions. I didnt always do the right thing because I didnt know what the right thing was. But once I learned I did change how I did things. Goldfish are coldwater fish and have different dietary needs than tropicals. the other fish should be fine since they all stay smaller. I am still curious as to the catfish. Not many stay that small. Is it a bumble bee mabey?

To your origional question, if you have an extra fish net, you could cut the mesh off and use the soda bottle as a frame to make a breeder box. If you didnt have a net you could use a clean pair of panty hose.
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Most likely an Oto.
 
IMO, a 55G is the smallest you could keep a pleco in. let's face it LFS and places keep big pleco's in smaller aquariums than that. I would think a 55 would be minimum for one common pleco. Not everybody can afford to buy 110G tanks for a pleco. Please try to show a little leadway here. Most ppl keep them in 10's and 20's without knowing better.
 
the gold fish live about 3 years max. I guess they probably should be in my tank. I always thought it was a catfish i have, but maybe it is something different. when i get my camera back in a few days i will post a picture
 
Im not going to show any leeway in keeping a fish that cannot turn arround in a tank. It is your choice to advocate keeping a fish in a tank that is too small for it. While the species profiles on this site says common plecos max out at 18" I have personally seen them larger than that. A standard 55 is only 13 inches from front to back. Just because people do it does not make it right. You cannot compair fishstores stocking to that of the home aquarist unless the LFS has them in a tank labled "display only. not for sale" since they are assuming the fish will be sold prior to thier reaching maximum size.

Sorry to go off topic there, and I do hope you meant the goldies shouldnt be in there, since they are not even reaching a quarter of thier lifespan. Im glad you could see this as a polite educational comment on my part and have not construed it to be mean or rude :)

It is possible you do have a catfish. Might be an otto or something else. Im just curious cuz most catfish get larger than 2". thats not to say that none of them stay small.
 
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sumthin fishy said:
Im not going to show any leeway in keeping a fish that cannot turn arround in a tank. It is your choice to advocate keeping a fish in a tank that is too small for it. While the species profiles on this site says common plecos max out at 18" I have personally seen them larger than that. A standard 55 is only 13 inches from front to back. Just because people do it does not make it right. You cannot compair fishstores stocking to that of the home aquarist unless the LFS has them in a tank labled "display only. not for sale" since they are assuming the fish will be sold prior to thier reaching maximum size.

Sorry to go off topic there, and I do hope you meant the goldies shouldnt be in there, since they are not even reaching a quarter of thier lifespan. Im glad you could see this as a polite educational comment on my part and have not construed it to be mean or rude :)

It is possible you do have a catfish. Might be an otto or something else. Im just curious cuz most catfish get larger than 2". thats not to say that none of them stay small.
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I had a pleco live for 17 years in my tank and it only grew to about 6-7 inches. it looked the same as the ones i have now. why didn't it get larger. i think i will give my goldfish to some friends that have a large outdoor pond. stays heated in the winter
 
there are many different species of pleco's..actually i believe that pleco is used to often and has become generalized with the Loricariidae.
just because you bought a pleco from the LFS. many associate it with the 'common' pleco..actually I found that even among commmon pleco's..the size can vary. generally 11" to over 19"

the queen arabeaque only gets about 4". there are several 'pleco's' that don't get much bigger than 5-6 "

bristle nose, clown, rubber nosed to name just a few.

to be honest about the guppies..sure you could place them in a bottle..but 1/16" holes..they are quite capable of swimming out of that.

I still advocate the use of natural or un-natural(plastic) cover.
you'd have to keep the in the bottle for quite some time, feed them and also remove the waste..



even if only a few survive
 
While Most goldfish are coldwater Not all goldfish are coldwater. FanTail goldfish actually prefer to be in water around 76-78 degrees. You shouldn't generalize goldfish.

I've never gone through and looked up every variable and it might already be a sticky in the coldwater forum but if there isn't there should be a thread that gives each goldfish type and water temp prefered.
 
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