Red Albino Guppy

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Hello.

After doing some online research, I could not find a definitive answer.

To those who have experience w/albinos:

How large of a drop should I expect? One source stated that these fish have difficulty producing fry and another stated that the albino female could produced a drop upward of 100 or so (which is rare).

I would have asked the breeder I purchased these fish from, but he doesn't seem very friendly from his response e-mail regarding the missing tail gup. I am a little intimidated by him. :screwy:

Well, one of the females gave birth to 3 fry. That's it! Is this normal, or should I expect larger drops in the future (assuming these fish have been *recently* impregnated)?

If I have time, I will attempt at photographing the fry tomorrow. They are wonderful!
 
I have heard from a few breeders that Albinos tend to be fry eaters, so watch those gals closely!
 
Hello.

Yes! I plan to watch these ladies very closely. They do appear to be fully-grown, but I'm not exactly certain when they began breeding. I suppose I could inquire this info from the breeder. I suppose this could be their first drop, hence the extremely low turnout. I find it incredibly hard to believe that a large percentage of this drop were eaten, considering my observations of a relatively blind guppy. For example, while feeding red blood worms, these fish miss their aim 50%. They do not have good eye sight. Also, the low number may have been from last week's shipping (one of them lost her tail). I will keep hoping to establish a fairly stable population with these fish. My goal for them is to establish a "family" and maintain it for as long as possible. Although I am currently working with females, I do plan to seek out a desirable male to help strengthen the family DNA. Right now, I feeding them a variety and performing water changes every other day.
 
the fry dropped from any strain of guppy, albino or otherwise, depends largely on the size of the fish. Don't expect a relatively small still growing female to drop 100 fry, (this would be very large spawn even for a fully grown fish), I would not worry about it, when your fish get bigger they will drop more fry. 3-4 fry is completely normal for a first spawn. Guppy color strains do not really have much effect on the size of the spawn, though albino's may have different size spawns than other fish do to the inbreeding necessary to cultivate recessive genes such as the gene for being albino. Also there are different "types" of albino guppy's there is more than one gene that will code for albinism, they work in different ways some code for no pignmentation cells, some code for pigment cells to not be expressed...etc. Though I would doubt any of these traits would affect the amount of fry that a fish can hold, I think a lot of the tales about different strains such as albinos or black moscows having inordinately large spawns is much more myth and chance that breeders attribute to the strain than to the actual genetics.

Basically you are fine with a small first spawn...
 
no problem, also sometimes guppy's especially (in my experience at least) females that are dropping fry for their first time may not drop all their fry at once, I would keep a look out for one or two more during the next three or four days if I were you. I wouldn't bet on it, but I would give it a good chance.
 
Hi
Don't know anout guppies but in swordtails adouble dose of the albino gene was often fatal at birth. Do the fry have red eyes.??. I raised colorless ,red, yellow, lutino.
In order to get 100 percent albino or any of the other colors Must always be Albino x albino. Of course it's always tough to control the father
If your after albino it will be fairly easy to eliminate the throw backs as they will have black eyes from birth. DoNOT allow these to cross as the albino will be eliminated in two generations!! I don't think it's possible to arrive at more than 75 percent true breeding So your after red eyed red?? gary
 
If your after albino it will be fairly easy to eliminate the throw backs as they will have black eyes from birth. DoNOT allow these to cross as the albino will be eliminated in two generations!!
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Even after I cross the offspring back with albino?

Yes, my current fry do have red eyes. I am expecting more fry on the way. The numbers is uncertain at this point. Two of the mothers are starting to fill in quite nicely.
 
Hi
Well if they already have red eyes I'd bet both parents have red eyes.
Don't know if it applies to guppies but with swords I found that thopse born pink
always became the brightest red . While red or gray at birth alwys became either brick red or green... I'd certainly isolate the black eyed ones as quick as possible . If you get none good indication that you have albino x albino for probably 3 generations.
Good luck Selective breeding of fish is a fascinating hobby in itself gary
 
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