S-shaped zebra danio going downhill

NilsBaees

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My zebra danio has been "bent" for a while. It started as a humplike shape on its back, and then slowly the stomach hollowed out and she swam erratically, like a fish would if it had swim bladder disease. In fact, I thought that was what she had. But I've never had a fish with that before, so I don't know much about it. Also, I've heard that a lot of danios "bend" after a while. Well, she started to swim normally again, and eat like a normal fish, but after a while I noticed she lived at the bottom of the tank. This got worse, eventually, and now she lies on her side (gills, eyes and mouth still moving) on the ground. She doesn't even eat anymore, and the S shape is more prominent than ever. I thought she was dead until I noticed the movement of her eyes. I'm afraid that she will never recover, as she won't even eat, so she might end up starving herself to death...? Is it better to just put her out of her misery (and if so, how do I do that)? Thanks.
 
That's a shame... you may want to just put her down, she seems to be suffering. You could do it by either using clove oil or doing a freezing method (though I am unsure of exactly how to do that humanely).
 
Here's information on the clove oil method, which I have had to use, and it is very humane and stress free for the fish, if done according to the directions.

Here's the article written by one of our AC members, ct-death.



EUTHANASIA


First, I did not plan on having this Topic become my first article; however, I have seen many posts ask about, ‘How do you humanely euthanize a fish?’ Many of those same threads provide differing opinions on not only the methods to employ but also to its necessity…

Myths: “Fish can’t feel pain right?”
This is a very common question, and myth, but more often than not I have found that most are simply looking for some sense of reassurance that what they are proposing to do is ethically/morally okay. The truth is, however, that of course they feel pain. Fish have an intricate nervous-system, but we often don't readily see the signs of distress because fish lack the facial responses and expressions we readily associate with pain and fear typical in most animals. The reality is, if you're observant to the signs, many fish noticeably exhibit either behavioral or physical signs of affliction when they're distressed or in pain (ie. vigorous and often violent movements; color-shifts, often fading or paling in nature; and changes in normal social and other behavioral activities are all clues to their distress). Many of these same symptoms we actively use in our hobby to discover wounds, diseases or other ailments earlier than we perhaps would otherwise.

What is it, and Why do it?
euthanasia (yū'thə-nā'zhə, -zhē-ə) n.
Greek, meaning “Good Death”.
“Euthanasia is the practice of ending the life of a human or animal who is incurably ill in a painless or minimally painful way, for the purpose of limiting suffering. Laws around the world vary greatly with regard to euthanasia, and are constantly subject to change as cultural values shift and better palliative care, or treatments become available.




- Reference: Wikipedia

How do I know if my fish needs to be Euthanized?



Reasons for Euthanizing a Fish –
  • Irreversible Disease - Cannot be treated, such as Cancer
  • Major Injury - Fish cannot survive on own
  • Suffering – Non-treatable ailment (i.e. In some cases; old age)
  • Culling
NOT Reasons for Euthanizing your Fish -
  • Fish outgrows it’s environment, or is inappropriate for your setup
  • Fish becomes aggressive towards other tank-mates
  • Lose interest
  • Moving, or desire to change your tank
  • Any other reason given that is correctable or the cause of the owner
Methods Commonly Approved:
I would like to preface this section simply by saying that many methods are in use and that most are controversial (as is the very notion of Euthanizing), but I have only tried to list those methods deem ‘acceptable’ by most and would be considered common practices. Certainly others exist…

Freezing
Correct Approach is to place a bowl of water into a freezer and let stand until a thin crust of ice has formed. The ice should be sufficiently formed to require one to break threw the surface. The goal is to ideally reach a Fahrenheit temperature of 29 degrees (or less). Once achieved, a fish may be placed in the bowl. Nearly instant, it is a very quick and efficient method by most accounts.

Alcohol – Is not an approved method on its own (See Clove Oil).

Clove Oil – Perhaps the most commonly employed method and very economical. This method is an anesthetic-like approach in that the Clove Oil is used first to place a fish under sleep. Ethanol-based alcohol is then utilized to euthanize the fish after the fish is unconscious.
- A Common Mistake is to mix both the clove and alcohol together, or to use a non-clear, non-grained, alcohol (colored alcohols, such as whiskeys, are not allowed to fully ferment and are thus not approved due to lack of ethanol concentrations).
- Alcohol used should be clear in nature and grain-based (commonly known as ethyl or ethanol) such as a Vodka. Although effective, vodka is still diluted, and the concentration of ethanol is deliberately reduced (25% alcohol of the total water volume is typically recommended).
- Note: Clove Oil is also lethal in 5-6x the recommended concentrations (ie. 50-60 drops per US Gallon). Also, please note; it is recommended that the fish is first placed under prior to spiking the concentrations to lethal doses.

Clove Method How-To: (Fish up to 3”)
1. Using a small clean container, filled with tank water, add approx. 1 drop of clove oil per 24oz.*, and shake vigorously. The clove oil must emulsify (will turn the water a milky white). *Remember the amount of water you use (needed for alcohol concentration below).
2. Add the fish, and check back in about 10-15 minutes. If the fish is still swimming occasionally, pre-mix a small amount of clove-oil and add this to the container. Wait again.
3. Add 20-25% volume of grain alcohol. For example, if the fish is in 8oz (240ml) of water, add 2oz (60ml) of vodka.
4. Check the fish carefully after 20 minutes. If there is no sign of gill movement after a minute, the fish has expired.
*(Fish over 3”+) Follow the above instruction, but increase the Clove Oil concentrations to 10 drops per US Gallon (or 1 drop per 13oz).



- Reference: Wisegeek & Aquaria Central

Anesthetic – By far and away the most humane is through the use of anesthetics. Many of our LFS and on-line aquarium providers offer this solution. The most commonly used product is commercially named, Finquel (Link for convenience: Finquel Aquatic Anesthetic). From this, any of the Methods already discussed may be used, or one can simply apply the recommended dose, wait for sedation, and then spike with approximately 3-4x the dose. The effect is the fish calmly falls to sleep, and the increased concentration simply stops their heart. No suffering.

Methods NOT Approved:
First, let me be perfectly clear that these are NOT Methods of choice, nor offer a humane approach! Secondly, I am listing these so that I can be clear on the intent for this Article, and dispel ANY notion that these can be considered humane.

Frankly, as an Aquarium Hobbyist, your first obligation is to the animals we have taken the responsibility to care for, and as such, I feel it is something we have willingly accepted the responsibility to perform in the most humane manner possible. ‘Until death do us part’, if you will.

Club or Smash – I could also include the “Blender” approach here as well for it’s shear brutality… For most, the potential loss of a pet is very traumatic, and ensuring the quick and stable hand required for this approach is hopeful at best, especially to those not only unwilling, but (hopefully) novices to this barbaric approach. Simply, too many things can go wrong, and with so many other humane approaches available there is simply no excuse to employ this method.

Flushing (Live) Fish – What can I say? Well, first off, this will not kill your fish – At least not quickly or painlessly. Taking a living fish plopping them into a bacteria infested, chlorinated toilet bowl, and pushing a lever to flush a fish simply guarantees two things: 1) That the fish will suffer a long time while it is slowly suffocated and poisoned, and 2) it ensures that the fish is “Out-of-sight, and Out-of-mind”.

Freezing (Live) Fish – There is a right and a wrong way to “Freeze a Fish.” Fish are very sensitive to temperature changes, and a few degrees can easily send a healthy fish into shock (See: Methods Approved for the ‘Right’ procedure)
Wrong Approach is to simply place an ailing fish into a bowl of water and place them into a freezer. Many employ this technique as it ‘appears’ placid. However, the reality is they are freezing to-death much like you or I would. The thrashing and ‘signs of agony’ are absent because their metabolism is shutting down, their bodily functions begin to slow dramatically, and blood recedes into their core in their futile attempt for survival. Eventually, they slip into a sleep, and die. How long does it take to make ice?

Alcohol – Is not an approved method on its own (See Clove Oil). The cause of death is by alcohol poisoning.

I hope this article can be used as a resource to more humanely address this issue. The When and Why I will leave largely up to you...



I really feel that the alcohol is not needed if you use the lethal dose of clove oil.

Note: It is also recommended that you use a drop (or in some cases two) in tank water to put him to sleep before administering the lethal dose. Also, it is of utmost importance to make sure the oil is emulsified by shaking the mixture until milky.

I made the mistake , the first time I had to do this, of adding the lethal dose, altough it was shaken and emulsified, before the fish was asleep. He darted around the cup as though the concentrated mixture was irritating or upsetting.

On subsequent ocassions I always made sure the fish is completely unconscious before administering the well shaken and emulsified lethal dose of the clove oil/tank water mixture.

I usually put the fish in the freezer after death is confirmed for two reasons: to wait for trash pickup day, and as a final assurance of death, though I know that is not necessary.*



*additional comments by Melody
 
Sorry for the missing words in the text in my post above. I did a search in the posts using key words "clove oil" so everywhere in the text those appear you have the weird font color.

Here it is again:
Here's the article by ct-death.


EUTHANASIA

First, I did not plan on having this Topic become my first article; however, I have seen many posts ask about, ‘How do you humanely euthanize a fish?’ Many of those same threads provide differing opinions on not only the methods to employ but also to its necessity…

Myths: "Fish can’t feel pain right?"
This is a very common question, and myth, but more often than not I have found that most are simply looking for some sense of reassurance that what they are proposing to do is ethically/morally okay. The truth is, however, that of course they feel pain. Fish have an intricate nervous-system, but we often don't readily see the signs of distress because fish lack the facial responses and expressions we readily associate with pain and fear typical in most animals. The reality is, if you're observant to the signs, many fish noticeably exhibit either behavioral or physical signs of affliction when they're distressed or in pain (ie. vigorous and often violent movements; color-shifts, often fading or paling in nature; and changes in normal social and other behavioral activities are all clues to their distress). Many of these same symptoms we actively use in our hobby to discover wounds, diseases or other ailments earlier than we perhaps would otherwise.

What is it, and Why do it?
euthanasia (yū'thə-nā'zhə, -zhē-ə) n.
Greek, meaning "Good Death".
"Euthanasia is the practice of ending the life of a human or animal who is incurably ill in a painless or minimally painful way, for the purpose of limiting suffering. Laws around the world vary greatly with regard to euthanasia, and are constantly subject to change as cultural values shift and better palliative care, or treatments become available."





- Reference:
Wikipedia

How do I know if my fish needs to be Euthanized?




Reasons for Euthanizing a Fish –

Irreversible Disease - Cannot be treated, such as Cancer
Major Injury - Fish cannot survive on own
Suffering – Non-treatable ailment (i.e. In some cases; old age)
Culling
NOT Reasons for Euthanizing your Fish -
Fish outgrows it’s environment, or is inappropriate for your setup
Fish becomes aggressive towards other tank-mates
Lose interest
Moving, or desire to change your tank
Any other reason given that is correctable or the cause of the owner
Methods Commonly Approved:
I would like to preface this section simply by saying that many methods are in use and that most are controversial (as is the very notion of Euthanizing), but I have only tried to list those methods deem ‘acceptable’ by most and would be considered common practices. Certainly others exist…

Freezing
Correct Approach is to place a bowl of water into a freezer and let stand until a thin crust of ice has formed. The ice should be sufficiently formed to require one to break threw the surface. The goal is to ideally reach a Fahrenheit temperature of 29 degrees (or less). Once achieved, a fish may be placed in the bowl. Nearly instant, it is a very quick and efficient method by most accounts.

Alcohol – Is not an approved method on its own (See Clove Oil).

Clove Oil – Perhaps the most commonly employed method and very economical. This method is an anesthetic-like approach in that the Clove Oil is used first to place a fish under sleep. Ethanol-based alcohol is then utilized to euthanize the fish after the fish is unconscious.
- A Common Mistake is to mix both the clove and alcohol together, or to use a non-clear, non-grained, alcohol (colored alcohols, such as whiskeys, are not allowed to fully ferment and are thus not approved due to lack of ethanol concentrations).
- Alcohol used should be clear in nature and grain-based (commonly known as ethyl or ethanol) such as a Vodka. Although effective, vodka is still diluted, and the concentration of ethanol is deliberately reduced (25% alcohol of the total water volume is typically recommended).
- Note: Clove Oil is also lethal in 5-6x the recommended concentrations (ie. 50-60 drops per US Gallon). Also, please note; it is recommended that the fish is first placed under prior to spiking the concentrations to lethal doses.

Clove Method How-To: (Fish up to 3")
1. Using a small clean container, filled with tank water, add approx. 1 drop of clove oil per 24oz.*, and shake vigorously. The clove oil must emulsify (will turn the water a milky white). *Remember the amount of water you use (needed for alcohol concentration below).

2. Add the fish, and check back in about 10-15 minutes. If the fish is still swimming occasionally, pre-mix a small amount of clove-oil and add this to the container. Wait again.

3. Add 20-25% volume of grain alcohol. For example, if the fish is in 8oz (240ml) of water, add 2oz (60ml) of vodka.

4. Check the fish carefully after 20 minutes. If there is no sign of gill movement after a minute, the fish has expired.
*(Fish over 3"+) Follow the above instruction, but increase the Clove Oil concentrations to 10 drops per US Gallon (or 1 drop per 13oz).


- Reference: Wisegeek & Aquaria Central
Anesthetic – By far and away the most humane is through the use of anesthetics. Many of our LFS and on-line aquarium providers offer this solution. The most commonly used product is commercially named, Finquel (Link for convenience: Finquel Aquatic Anesthetic). From this, any of the Methods already discussed may be used, or one can simply apply the recommended dose, wait for sedation, and then spike with approximately 3-4x the dose. The effect is the fish calmly falls to sleep, and the increased concentration simply stops their heart. No suffering.

Methods NOT Approved:
First, let me be perfectly clear that these are NOT Methods of choice, nor offer a humane approach! Secondly, I am listing these so that I can be clear on the intent for this Article, and dispel ANY notion that these can be considered humane.

Frankly, as an Aquarium Hobbyist, your first obligation is to the animals we have taken the responsibility to care for, and as such, I feel it is something we have willingly accepted the responsibility to perform in the most humane manner possible. ‘Until death do us part’, if you will.

Club or Smash – I could also include the "Blender" approach here as well for it’s shear brutality… For most, the potential loss of a pet is very traumatic, and ensuring the quick and stable hand required for this approach is hopeful at best, especially to those not only unwilling, but (hopefully) novices to this barbaric approach. Simply, too many things can go wrong, and with so many other humane approaches available there is simply no excuse to employ this method.

Flushing (Live) Fish – What can I say? Well, first off, this will not kill your fish – At least not quickly or painlessly. Taking a living fish plopping them into a bacteria infested, chlorinated toilet bowl, and pushing a lever to flush a fish simply guarantees two things: 1) That the fish will suffer a long time while it is slowly suffocated and poisoned, and 2) it ensures that the fish is "Out-of-sight, and Out-of-mind".

Freezing (Live) Fish – There is a right and a wrong way to "Freeze a Fish." Fish are very sensitive to temperature changes, and a few degrees can easily send a healthy fish into shock (See: Methods Approved for the ‘Right’ procedure)
Wrong Approach is to simply place an ailing fish into a bowl of water and place them into a freezer. Many employ this technique as it ‘appears’ placid. However, the reality is they are freezing to-death much like you or I would. The thrashing and ‘signs of agony’ are absent because their metabolism is shutting down, their bodily functions begin to slow dramatically, and blood recedes into their core in their futile attempt for survival. Eventually, they slip into a sleep, and die. How long does it take to make ice?

Alcohol – Is not an approved method on its own (See Clove Oil). The cause of death is by alcohol poisoning.

I hope this article can be used as a resource to more humanely address this issue. The When and Why I will leave largely up to you...

(end of article)



I really feel that the alcohol is not needed if you use the lethal dose of clove oil.

Note: It is also recommended that you use a drop (or in some cases two) in tank water to put him to sleep before administering the lethal dose. Also, it is of utmost importance to make sure the oil is emulsified by shaking the mixture until milky.

I made the mistake , the first time I had to do this, of adding the lethal dose, altough it was shaken and emulsified, before the fish was asleep. He darted around the cup as though the concentrated mixture was irritating or upsetting.

On subsequent ocassions I always made sure the fish is completely unconscious before administering the well shaken and emulsified lethal dose of the clove oil/tank water mixture.

I usually put the fish in the freezer after death is confirmed for two reasons: to wait for trash pickup day, and as a final assurance of death, though I know that is not necessary.*



*additional comments by Melody
 
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When it comes to euthanasia, go with your gut. Whichever method you feel the best about is going to be fine. People can argue about how painful or how humane each one is but when it comes down to it...your the one who has to perform it.

Hope that helps a little :(
 
Thanks so much everyone (especially you Melody), but she died a few hours ago before I read this post. :( Definitely bookmarking this for euthanasia instructions though. Thanks again.
 
I'm so sorry for your loss, Nils. I wish I knew what was wrong with him. I wish someone familiar with this would come along to let us know what this might have been.

At least your little fish had someone that cared about him and was trying to help. Keep your chin up... I know it hurts.

On the euthanasia: I keep several bottles of clove oil, a turkey baster (to use as a drip applicator) and a 4 cup plastic measuring cup (as a vessel) in a gallon ziploc. I then double bag that and keep it in my fish supplies; the smell is penetrating and can make your supplies smell like clove so really wrap it up. (though clove has a nice smell I don't want any of my equipment or supplies to smell like it)

As a fishkeeper, euthanasia is one of the most difficult things you have to do, rarely, thankfully. You never know when you might be desperate, when there's no chance of recovery, to help end suffering late at night when nothing is open and there's no way to get help.

Again, I'm so very sorry for your loss.
 
This is a very common problem for Danios and Rasboras (related fish) as they age- as the above- it usually means they are nearing the end of their lives.
 
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