I just thinned my tiger lotus, and vals, and moved the vals back to the background, the little creatures take over if you let then lol, And added my seachem root tabs under my lotus and along the back of the aquarium for the valls. I like the results that I get from this product, But I have never tried anything else. I have been unable to find the correct jobe's plant sticks in my market area. What is everyone else using and how does the product compare with the results of using seachem?