shedding adf

FisheyLisa

FisheyLisa

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shedding adf or death?

One of my new ADF's appears to be shedding, but it doesn't look like the shedding I am used to seeing on an adf. Typically I see the skin coming off in sheets, and usually the frog is flipping out trying to catch it, and it gobbles it up. I laugh cause it looks like he is so hungry, he wants to eat his pants!

The one I have now, is a bit more lethargic (though it is 1-2 weeks new and may still be trying to fit it). It's lethargy doen't concern me too much, it could be worse. However it's skin has whitened and bubbled a bit, looking like it is going to shed.

This frog is much fatter and hardier than my original frogs, so I am wondering if the skin isn't coming off due to it's lethargy? I want to make sure it isn't a disease/ infection. I had to bring another back because it had an infection of sorts.

His stresses would be from a new tank and tank mates and not eating all that much. It could be pregnant...or just fat. It doesn't hide all that much, just seems to exist.

I have read Leo's article, and also searched for pictures of frog shedding, and will continue to research, but I hoped you guys might have suggestions.

And now I am so hungry I can't think.
BTW water conditions are fine- examplified by the other 2 frogs and fish in the tank and test readings of 0, temp 78, I can't incl. picture, sorry.
 
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Fungal Infections:
Particularly troublesome to the aquatic amphibians and tadpoles, this shows up as areas of red inflammation based on soft white tissue, though generally speaking, it looks like any noticeable abnormal changes in skin color might be a symptom of this. If caught in the early stages, a fungal infection can sometimes be treated by one of several methods: the most commonly recommended method is immersing the animal in a 2% solution of malachite green or mercurochrome for 5 minutes, repeating after 24 hours if symptoms do not improve. If no improvement shows after 3 such treatments seek the advise of a vet. Another treatment I ran across was coating with 8-hydroxyquinoline (one part per 5000 every other day) until the condition vanishes.

Epidermal chytridiomycosis is what that is right?
Ugh, help! Every monday when I am without car, I seem to be dealing with sick frogs from this store (well the last 2 mondays)
 
What exactly is different in this case? That he's not actively trying to shed it/eat it? Or the appearance of the skin? How long has it looked white and bubbly?

The most telling question would be to determine if you can see any redness or swelling in areas where the skin is lifting.

I would not treat as a disease yet, it's too early.
 
FisheyLisa said:
Fungal Infections:
...the most commonly recommended method is immersing the animal in a 2% solution of malachite green or mercurochrome for 5 minutes, repeating after 24 hours if symptoms do not improve.
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The best malachite green treatment I've found is Nox-Ich. I've used it to treat frogs and fish and it has worked better than ANYTHING I've ever tried. It's pricier than other treatments, I think, and you usually only find the tiny bottles, but it's worth the investment.

That said, it might not be fungal. My frogs hide only sometimes and I also discovered that female frogs look like males until they are a certain age, then they get fat. During breeding time, I've found mine hide a lot less. Watch closely and make sure it doesn't just float near the top. I read that sometimes they float cuz they're lazy and didn't concern myself until the 'lazy' frog died.

Best of luck!

Jade
 
Just so that people don't assume all floating frogs are sick, let me clarify that healthy frogs will and do float at the surface. I've got some that are several years old that float when they feel like it.
 
ok...it looks thicker than regular skin falling off. Thick, Fuzzy, and white. bubbling in clearly circular patches, not just flaps of skin coming off. He is kinda floaty...boyant rather. Actually pretty lethargic, when I poke at him/her (carefully) and at the bubbles of skin, it doesn't care.

I have removed from the community tank, the sick frog, and I am setting up the q-tank. I called the pet store, and they offered much the same help you guys are. No med's are going to be used tonight. I am putting a low concentration of salt in the water if I can find the proper ratio.

Any thing else non-aggressive I should be doing?

I still haven't been able to eat!! sorry this probably isn't as coherent as I could be!

PS. another thing I found which provides a description of how the skin looks on my froggy:

General Fungal Disease
Causes and Characteristics:The most common infections amoung temperate amphibians are those caused by fungi of various genera commonly known as saprolegnias, characterized by a pearly or creamy coating with a furry apperence in water and slimy in hand. The fungus Oodinium is more likely to occur in amphibians hailing from warmer climates and tends to be velvety and more yellow in colorization. Both types of fungi usually occupy small sores and skin lesions.....

Treatment: Fortunatly, treatment in the early stages by applying hydogen peroxide (dilute to 75% strength for adult amphibians, 50% for juvinile or small amphibians) to infected area with a small paitbrush will give you a good success rate..."
 
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Well that does indeed some pretty bad. I would just try some salt (since it seems meds are not an option tonight) and keep the tank a little cooler - only by a couple of degrees though. If it is fungus, it won't like the cooler water or salt at all.

In the future, you may want to buy the frogs elsewhere. If I understand correctly, it seems you've gotten some bad frogs there before.
 
Yes my petco frogs = survivors

this LFS place I got 2, replaced one, and now watching the second be unhappy. I hope the replacement frog which still looks healthy doesn't follow suit.

The store kind of knows their stuff...some practices I disagree with, but you do what you gotta do. My pet store wouldn't succeed cause everything would have beautiful, appropriate homes and cost too much to keep that way. Anyway it's sad that I like the store, they are pretty smart, but some things (like saying that I could house 3 clown loaches in a 30 g and it would be ok) seem kinda ...ugh I am going to say it...fishey.

Thanks !! I will be posting more if there are changes!
 
Bad pun. Bad.

Please do keep us updated.
 
Well froggy didn't make it. The "fuzz" thickened and spread and turned goldish as the above outline of the disease mentioned. I took poctures if you want them, Leo, of what he looked like after death and I can write up a discription if you want it for your article. I just don't know if I can get them to my computer, something is messed with uploading.

I pulled my frog and the "replacement"frog from the tank to their own provate 5 g, which I may experiment with a sand and so more densely planted setup.

Thanks for the help:)
 
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