Starting a 10g viv

That would work? I could find some marginal plants to grow out of the water too. My LFS has that kind of setup for the green tree frogs aswell; they don't need land space? A few more Q's on that:

1. How deep should the water be?
2. Wouldn't the GTF not get any food since the crickets would fall into the water?
 
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its not that hard.. get creative... the concept is a place to hide a water pump.. and a way to divide the land from water


so why not silicone 2 pieces of plexiglaas as the wall of the band.. and then have an eggcrate ramp at the end where you want the "stream" to start.. and you can house the pump under it with a tube running up and into the stream.. and you can decorate the stream however you want :]... just a suggestion
 
when i kept firebellys tree frogs together the poison of the firebellys leached into the water and caused the tree frogs to get sick. in personal oppinion and the recommendation of others(to me in the past) i wouldnt mix the two...at least with water.
also if the water isnt keep right the tree frogs develop internal bacterial infections that are hard to cure.
 
What GMan said should be considered........I have never kept either of those frogs so I have no input there..but I do have a few simple viveriums for my darts.

I have a 20long viv that has two seperate sections for two different PODs, a 10 gallon viv with one POD, a 20 tall with just plants right now (waiting on a POD)....and a little 5gallon river tank. The only one with water is the 5gallon river tank.

There are many different things you can do with a viv....alot of folks use egg crate to seperate the water area from the planted section....so that any water that does wik into the substrate drains through and doesn't saturate the soil.

That would be a simple enough project to have a layer of egg crate at the bottom......a layer of this stuff http://www.blackjungle.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=TL-10&Category_Code=SUB&Store_Code=BJTS or just plain gravel....with screening on top of that so that the soil doesn't mix with it......and then some cocoa bedding for soil. (cocoa bedding is best for vivs...drains very well. You can soak it in water with liquid plant fertilizer..make sure the fertilizer you use is ok to use for frogs, no chemicals and stuff)

You could easily work something up for a waterfall design using one of those little whisper intank filters. Put one of those where you want your waterfall and just silicone rocks/wood around it so that the water flows down and into your "pool" area. Of course, you would want to fix this up so that you can pull the filter out if you ever need to. You would also want to make sure that your frogs couldn't fall down underneath the eggcrate....so perhaps just a pile of larger riverstones for the water to fall onto and through the eggcrate. You could be creative if you want a pool of sorts, by just having a piece of wood or something that has a natural "dish" which could just collect water at the base of the filter.

I don't know if you can picture any of this....lol......I'm not that good at paint, but here's an attempt to give you a pic of what I'm talking about....

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This would be simple enough to do in a 10gallon tank. Be creative in what you do to hide the filter or make it fit into the plan.

Have fun setting this up...and do post some pics ! :)


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I think I'll ditch the firebelly and just do two tree frogs. This also means I probably won't do as much water, if any at all. I'm thinking I'll just do a water dish and concentrate more on having lots of plants and the such.


But thanks so much EMG, I can tell you put alot of work into that, and all for little old me :D
 
If you're not going for firebellies, turn the tank so the longest side is vertical. Treefrogs enjoy height more than floorspace. You'll need to sort something to cover the 'top' - wire mesh or tight-fitting wood or glass is best, and relatively easy to create. Alternatively get a small purpose built terrarium like the exoterra range. A 10 gal is adequate for up to 4 green treefrogs.

I wouldn't rule out firebellies, though. Again 4 is a good number (the tank must be positioned lengthways), and they are active during the day, unlike the treefrogs. Don't go for an elaborate display in a 10gal - I planned a whole waterfall thing for my 18x10" firebelly tank, but although it seems like enough room beforehand, it is a suprisingly small space - I ended up with a half water half land setup with some wood.
 
Germanman said:
when i kept firebellys tree frogs together the poison of the firebellys leached into the water and caused the tree frogs to get sick. in personal oppinion and the recommendation of others(to me in the past) i wouldnt mix the two...at least with water.
also if the water isnt keep right the tree frogs develop internal bacterial infections that are hard to cure.
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FIRE BELLIED TOADS ARE POSIONUS?!?!?!?!?!
 
Why thank you for hijacking my thread Bettamom.


Turning the tank on it's side would be alot of work to make it waterproof. What I'm going to do is just have the tank with ALOT of branches/plants etc. There should be enough climbing space for two with that kind of setup.
 
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