Stocking a 20 Gallon Long Tank
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Hi Latein.... from what I'm reading here, you're really trying to set up a mix of goldfish and tropicals together in the same tank. I strongly advise against doing this. Plecos, in particular, should never be kept with goldfish at all... not even bristlenose plecs. Same goes with the other fish you've named on your proposed stocking list.
If you want good advice on goldfish keeping, create a new thread for that in our General Cold & Temperate Water Forum, where actual goldfish keepers will see your post and respond with their (more relevant) expertise. To set up a tropical tank, that discussion is best to pursue here in the Freshwater Newbie Forum.
As always, we're happy to help answer the questions you have. I applaud your efforts now to seek out reliable advice for planning purposes. Enjoy the hobby and welcome to our site. Best of luck!!
If you want good advice on goldfish keeping, create a new thread for that in our General Cold & Temperate Water Forum, where actual goldfish keepers will see your post and respond with their (more relevant) expertise. To set up a tropical tank, that discussion is best to pursue here in the Freshwater Newbie Forum.
As always, we're happy to help answer the questions you have. I applaud your efforts now to seek out reliable advice for planning purposes. Enjoy the hobby and welcome to our site. Best of luck!!
Kashta's an expert in goldies. You will get great advice from more experts in the forum section she mentioned. In addition to the difference in temperatures required by the fish you mentioned, plecos love to suck the slime coat of goldies.
There have been many threads on AC that dealt with people having this problem. It happens after dark when the goldfish are asleep, and it causes wounds to the skin of the goldie. The pleco isn't mean, and isn't an aggressive fish, it just likes to suck on the slime coat of the goldfish.
You'll find a lot of info if you go to the General Cold and Temperate Water forum.
Welcome to AC. This is a great place to get help and advice. Glad to have you with us.
There have been many threads on AC that dealt with people having this problem. It happens after dark when the goldfish are asleep, and it causes wounds to the skin of the goldie. The pleco isn't mean, and isn't an aggressive fish, it just likes to suck on the slime coat of the goldfish.
You'll find a lot of info if you go to the General Cold and Temperate Water forum.
Welcome to AC. This is a great place to get help and advice. Glad to have you with us.
Thanks for the welcomes, everyone here is really friendly and great.
I think I should clear up what I plan to stock:
In the 20G I want:
Neon Tetras 5-6
Zebra Danios 4-5
African Dwarf Frogs 1 or 2
Pleco (bristlenose)
Snail? (Probably not)
Shrimps? (maybe, depends on what my lfs sells)
Right now my 20g is in the beginning stages of a fishless cycle. The 10 gallon tank currently has: 4 feeder fish (which have been IDed as Comet Goldfish here), and one Trinidad Pleco. I'm going to trade in the Trinidad Pleco for a bristlenose or for store credit if a bristlenose is not available.
I'm thinking of placing the 4 gold fish in the 20g tank once the ammonia levels hits 0 instead of manually adding in pure ammonia. Good idea? Yay or Nay? The reason I don't want to be adding in ammonia to feed the bacteria is that we only have lemon scented ammonia in the house and I actually had to borrowed pure ammonia from a neighbor. (I was really anxious to start the cycle and didn't want to go to the store
)
When the 20g is ready to be stocked only the 4 goldfish will be left behind in the 10g. I don't want them messing up the Main 20g tank as they are poop machines and not compatible with plecos. (Although they've been with a pleco for over a month now and seem fine.) I realize they will continue to grow their whole lives, but I don't know what to do with em. they were my first fishies, and if I give em away to the LFS they'll be sold as feeder fish and dead withing a week. :eek3:.
Is there anything wrong with this plan? I was also thinking of buying some tetras now and QT them in the established 10g tank, but I'm worried that 4 goldfish, a pleco, and 5-6 tetras would be too much for a 10 gallon.
I do have another 10g tank in the basement that is not being used. It has gravel and smaller plants (about 2 inches tall, from a plastic tadpole kit) but no filter. Could I move the 4 gold fish (since they are considered pretty hardy) in the spare filterless 10g and QT Tetras/Danios/ADF in the established 10g one with the pleco?
Ideas? Suggestions? Encouragement? :evil_lol:
I really appreciate all this expert help guys. You guys rock!:headbang2:
I think I should clear up what I plan to stock:
In the 20G I want:
Neon Tetras 5-6
Zebra Danios 4-5
African Dwarf Frogs 1 or 2
Pleco (bristlenose)
Snail? (Probably not)
Shrimps? (maybe, depends on what my lfs sells)
Right now my 20g is in the beginning stages of a fishless cycle. The 10 gallon tank currently has: 4 feeder fish (which have been IDed as Comet Goldfish here), and one Trinidad Pleco. I'm going to trade in the Trinidad Pleco for a bristlenose or for store credit if a bristlenose is not available.
I'm thinking of placing the 4 gold fish in the 20g tank once the ammonia levels hits 0 instead of manually adding in pure ammonia. Good idea? Yay or Nay? The reason I don't want to be adding in ammonia to feed the bacteria is that we only have lemon scented ammonia in the house and I actually had to borrowed pure ammonia from a neighbor. (I was really anxious to start the cycle and didn't want to go to the store
) When the 20g is ready to be stocked only the 4 goldfish will be left behind in the 10g. I don't want them messing up the Main 20g tank as they are poop machines and not compatible with plecos. (Although they've been with a pleco for over a month now and seem fine.) I realize they will continue to grow their whole lives, but I don't know what to do with em. they were my first fishies, and if I give em away to the LFS they'll be sold as feeder fish and dead withing a week. :eek3:.
Is there anything wrong with this plan? I was also thinking of buying some tetras now and QT them in the established 10g tank, but I'm worried that 4 goldfish, a pleco, and 5-6 tetras would be too much for a 10 gallon.
I do have another 10g tank in the basement that is not being used. It has gravel and smaller plants (about 2 inches tall, from a plastic tadpole kit) but no filter. Could I move the 4 gold fish (since they are considered pretty hardy) in the spare filterless 10g and QT Tetras/Danios/ADF in the established 10g one with the pleco?
Ideas? Suggestions? Encouragement? :evil_lol:
I really appreciate all this expert help guys. You guys rock!:headbang2:
