Stress Zyme

Yoemen

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Nov 2, 2005
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I got some stress zyme from petsmart because 2 seperate guys-not employees-were telling me how great it worked when I was trying to find some biospira so I went with it, hey I love stress coat and this is by the same people.

Just wondering if anyone has had success with this stuff? It is in my 55 with plants and filters and my ammonia has been coming down, but not seeing the nitrites or trates yet.
 
It's the wrong kind of bacteria. Most of the bacteria in a bottle contain Nitrobacter and Nitrosomas, which are the saltwater kind. Also, they can't survive in a bottle without food. So the only one that really works is Biospira, which contains Nitrospira, Nitrosomonas, and Nitrosospira and MUST BE refridgerated to work properly (the cooler temperature slow down their metabolism so they can go longer without food, which is ammonia and nitrite). The guy who invented it published papers to dispel the myth that Nitrobacter and Nitrosomas were responsible for nitrification in FW settings.

The bacteria in a bottle will die in your tank, if they aren't already dead, and will also contribute to ammonia and nitrite in your tank!

I used to use StressCoat and StressZyme myself, but have stopped. Fish don't need aloe, and the bacteria weren't doing anything. It's a marketing thing to get you to buy stuff you don't need. Aloe can also possibly gunk up the fish's gills and inhibit breathing, I think. I mean, the stuff is sticky and thick!
 
hmm

I use stresscoat as a decholinator and such, plus it is supposed to be good for catfish which I tend to have a lot of.

But will stop using the zyme stuff then, anyone know if petsmart or petco carry biospira?
 
Hello Yoemen. The petsmart in my area doesnt carry it,and the people that work there have'nt even heard of it! But I'm lucky because there is a Chow Hound pet store here in grand rapids (fish are'nt very healthy) but they do carry ALL marineland products!
 
http://www.marineland.com/

use the store locator at the left and type in your zip code. the stores listed are places that sell Marineland products and although they may or may not carry Bio-Spira, it'll give you a better chance of locating it in your area.

also, you might want to switch to Marineland's Bio-Safe or Seachem's Prime water conditioners, as other brands may have an adverese affect on the way Bio-Spira performs. I cycled my 20G using Bio-Spira but was told that you can only use Bio-Safe or Prime (which is the only other water conditioner Marineland gave the thumbs up to) to condition the water. I could not find Bio-Safe but I did find Prime, and everything worked out nicely.
 
It is weird to read this because I use those stress brands and have always used them. My brother had fish before me and he uses the stuff. My dad and grandpa had fish before both of us and used the stess stuff too. I use stress coat to treat the tap water and I ad stress zyme now and then because it is supposed to help keep the cycle healthy.
 
Like I said, I used to use them, too. And you're not alone, I'm sure there are thousands of other people out there who do. But I'd rather do without aloe, as I'm paying for something my fish don't need. Now I use Prime because it's cheaper (need much less to treat same volume of water). I did my research on the FW bacteria, and that's how I know about that. I can link you to the papers (published in scientific journals) if you like :)
 
I am willing to try Prime. I have to see if the LFS, Petco or Petsmart has it.
 
Does BioSpira really needed to be refrigerated at all time? Here is what Marineland has to say about this.

Q: Does BIO-Spira® need to be refrigerated?

A: BIO-Spira® is an active bacteria culture. Refrigeration provides the optimal long-term storage. If BIO-Spira® is left out of the refrigerator at room-temperature, it will still perform at optimal conditions. However, it is best to return BIO-Spira® to refrigeration when possible. Use the following as a guide:
a. Long Term Storage (1 year): 50°F (10°C)
b. Mid Term Storage (6 months): 39°F-87°F (4°C-31°C)

Here is the link
http://www.marineland.com/cus_faq.asp#48


Nitrospira, Nitrosomonas, and Nitrosospira bacteria can survive at temperature as high as 90*F or as low as 50*F without dying. They become inactive at at 39*F and die at 32*F or below or 120*F and above.
Here is the link to verify this data,
http://www.bioconlabs.com/nitribactfacts.html

BioSpira doesn't need to be refrigerated at all times.

Rohn
 
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Wouldn't room temps keep it active and possibly consume the food in the container sooner, thus possibly decrease shelf life?

What about transports from distribution centers, to individual box stores? Those trucks can easily exceed 90 degrees for hours.

I think I'd keep mine cold.
 
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