This sickens me!!!!
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I think that it becomes sickening depending on intent. If I run over a squirrel with my car by accident then I might be a bit sad but will drive on. But If I tortured it to death then that is a whole other thing. Going fishing and catching a fish either for a trophy or food is not the same as grabing a ray out of a tank and letting it dry up to death (after it was probably smacked around first).
Thats disgusting, disturbing, and just plain stupid.
Poor guys
Oh, and before anyone gets up in arms over me valueing them more than a cricket or ant...for the record....I don't kill either of them
(I may be weird, but I'll take them outside instead of squishin' em like most people.)
Poor guys
Oh, and before anyone gets up in arms over me valueing them more than a cricket or ant...for the record....I don't kill either of them
(I may be weird, but I'll take them outside instead of squishin' em like most people.)
Dangerdoll
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Leopardess said:
you're not weird Leo, I do the very same thing
I even have a spider in the house I respectfully named Hermie 
OrionGirl said:That goes without saying!
No, sorry, that needs to be said. In this society of "I wanna be friends with my kid" or "you just take a time-out, right NOW mister," more people need to go back to corporal punishment.
If you can't be afraid of your parent's wrath and/or authority figures, then what the heck's the point?
Actually the "time out" works if your child has been raised with it and knows that is only the first level of punishment and you are consistant. Spanking is in the thrid level of punishment in my home, my son respects that and rarely does it get to that level. Do NOT get me wrong, I'm for corporal punishment, I was rasied with grounding and spanking being the only punishments, and it worked, I've just chosen to add another level. It works for some, many even, but the punishment has to fit the crime. Getting a timeout in their own bedrooms where all their toys and games are... well you can see that it's not that much of a punishment. But a time out sitting in a not comfy chair facing a plain corner or wall where about the only thing they have to think about is how they got there to bein with is effective for the lessor of the punishment deserving situations. *shrugs* Anyway, it works for our family but then again, we've been consistant from day one with Boo (son).
As for these kids... I can't think that they did this out of boredom. I mean who in their right mind thinks, "hey I'm bored, I'm gonna go break in to a public place and torture and kill another living being so I'm no longer bored". I can't wait for the public outcry of, they were abused themselves so that excuses their behaviour, they are troubled teens, they didn't understand the consequences, etc etc etc. About time they were taught those consequences by the courts then.
As for these kids... I can't think that they did this out of boredom. I mean who in their right mind thinks, "hey I'm bored, I'm gonna go break in to a public place and torture and kill another living being so I'm no longer bored". I can't wait for the public outcry of, they were abused themselves so that excuses their behaviour, they are troubled teens, they didn't understand the consequences, etc etc etc. About time they were taught those consequences by the courts then.
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heat said:
Heat, I agree with you... my son is only two and totally pushes his limits. He KNOWS when he does something wrong (unless it's the first time he does something that we don't approve of, in which case he gets a few 'times' to learn that it is wrong, if that makes sense
)Right now there are only a few things that get him into real trouble: hiting, biting, throwing/tipping over objects out of anger, being knowingly defiant ("please pick up that toy you just threw across the room out of anger" "no mommy"), and saying a few "bad words" (shut up, stupid, and shut your mouth -- thankfully that's the worst that's come out of his mouth.)
He KNOWS those things are all wrong, he's been told time and time again, and his pediatrician agrees that yes, he DOES in fact know that these things are wrong. The first time he does one of the above things , he is told "one more time and you get a time out", if he does it a second time (often!) he gets a time out - which is sitting on a small rug in the kitchen, facing the cabinet and not being able to talk or move for 2 minutes. Once he completes his time out, we call him over to us and explain what he did was wrong, and give him a hug and tell him we love him. If he does the same thing again withing a reasonable amount of time (1 hour or so), he is told again "that is wrong and you know it, if you do it one more time you will get a spanking". It rarely comes to a spanking and spanking in our house is FAR from a spanking when I was growing up (we use our hands, on the side of his thigh, over his pants; my dad used his belt or hand on our butt over oru underwear but under our pants... mom used the wooden spoon!). The only exception to our discipline rules is biting, being in daycare we cannot have any give on this, so he knows, one bite he gets a spanking, because one bite that breaks the skin at daycare gets him the boot.
He has been spanked only once without any warning or time out leading up to it, just last weekend. He knows he has to hold my (or hubby's) hand when walking to the car from our house if it's parked across the street (he also knows to hold our hand walking thru busy parking lots). Well last Saturday he bolted away from me and out into the street. THANKFULLY there were no cars coming down the street. I ran after him, scooped him up, stood him on the sidewalk and gave him the hardest spanking ever, then a big hug, and I explained to him (through both of our tears) how he cannot do that because people drive too fast (sometimes you'd think we live on a racetrack!) and he's so small and they wouldn't see him and he could get hurt.
OK, now that you all know our discipline rules
....My son will NOT grow up to be a punk like these kids. He knows the ground rules, he will know right from wrong, and most of all, he will never have free reign like these 13 and 14 year olds have!!! I said that in another post about this incident... where the heck are the parents? Why are these kids able to get to do this? And Heat you make another point, if these kids have bad parents at home, who is to say that maybe the public will try to blame bad parenting/abuse... ugh... 13 year olds know darn well right from wrong!!!
~Tara
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Timmain42 said:
My kids fear me to the point that they would never even consider doing such a thing
greeneyedlady said:My kids fear me to the point that they would never even consider doing such a thing
Because they know that if they even consider doing such a thing, you will no longer take them to cool rock concerts for their birthdays!!
~Tara
This incident reminds me why I don't want children. I think children can be the most cruel and mean- spirited of all to each other and those around them. I don't want any monsters and don't want to take the chance....
You can be the best parent in the world and still have a horrible child ...
PS Dwayne - I like your parenting ideas! Consistency is the most important of all.
You can be the best parent in the world and still have a horrible child ...
PS Dwayne - I like your parenting ideas! Consistency is the most important of all.
