Transporting Fish During Winter.

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Ryosuke

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Actually, I have a question. How do people transport the new fish during the winter? (I heard some people use cooler) I am just wondering about this because I may have to buy some fish during the winter, and I don't want them to die when I am on my way home...

Thanks in advance.
 
I have to transport mine back and forth during the winter sometimes and as long as you dont have your heater blowing directly on them, room temperature in your car will do. I usually get some plastic gladware containers and then stack them in a bucket to transport them. Just make sure you dont stop anywhere on the way or let your car get cold.
 
Hi Ryosuke, You don't say where you live so I'm not sure what kind of winter temperatures you have to deal with. Here in New Jersey in the dead of winter where you might have a morning or evening temperature of 10 degrees, I would definitely use an insulated container to put the fish in for transport home. In cold winter weather, the inside of the car gets cold really, really fast, especially if the wind is blowing. Even one of those larger size insulated lunch bags would be better than nothing. The temperature of the fish water inside those thin plastic bags can drop pretty quickly by the time you get your car warmed up to 78 degrees! What an opportune time for ick to set it.
 
Ich is found on a fish because the fish/environment has been compromised in some way recently, lowering the fish's immune system and resistance to bacteria and illnesses.

Ich is not on a fish because it is a healthy fish in a stable, unchanged, uncompromised environment.

Ich is almost always present in all freshwater aquarium water (especially LFS's). Take a stressed fish that's just been caught and bagged for transport and expose it to a rapid change in water temperature....the ich will more than likely show up on that fish real soon.
 
pinkertd said:
Ich is found on a fish because the fish/environment has been compromised in some way recently, lowering the fish's immune system and resistance to bacteria and illnesses.

Ich is not on a fish because it is a healthy fish in a stable, unchanged, uncompromised environment.

Ich is almost always present in all freshwater aquarium water (especially LFS's). Take a stressed fish that's just been caught and bagged for transport and expose it to a rapid change in water temperature....the ich will more than likely show up on that fish real soon.
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No, no, no.

Ich is a parasite that can be easily eliminated from aquaria with a little knowledge of it's life cycle.

There is a small chance that, if treated improperly, you can reduce your ich infestation to such a low level that the fish display no symptoms yet are ripe for an outbreak.

However, if instead the ich parasite is properly killed, using the very simple salt and heat method, it WILL NOT BE IN YOUR AQUARIUM and no amount of mistreatment of the fish will cause them to get ich again.

I am with you on one point...you can pretty much just KNOW that new fish (or plants even) from the LFS WILL likely come with some ICH parasites and you might as well treat them in quarantine the moment you get them home, white spots or not.

Your mistake was the phrase "almost always present in all freshwater aquarium water," which seems to be saying that ich is some kind of mystical airborne pathogen that we can't do anything about except try to keep our fish comfortable most of the time. No, ICH can be easily completely removed from any tank. I guarantee you with 100% certainty and my home up for collateral, that none of my tanks or fish can be caused to get ICH right now, no matter what you do...because there is no ICH in them.
 
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Ich is a parasite and ich has a definite life cycle. you can eliminate ich in aquariums. but
dod you know that fish can develop an immunity/resistance to the parasite so that the ich may not show up on the fish?

it is possible that ich can survive in a tank with no outward visible signs. ich may not always be in an epidemic proportion. so it may appear the fish are not suffering from an infestation.
when in fact the fish is healthy enough to keep the ich in check(so to speak). it happens with other internal parasites too. ich can manifest ln thegills not appearing on the fish.
I think this may be what Deb is referring to.when the conditions are right/ripe the fish stressed their immunity/resistance can no longer keep the parasite in check and BINGO an infestation where you did not know one existed.
remember also that the ich cycle can be prolonged in cool waters where the 'egg's' may not hatch for weeks.
can you eliminate ich from a tank ?? Yes
can ich residce in a tank with no visible infestation? Yes.
 
star_rider said:
Ich is a parasite and ich has a definite life cycle. you can eliminate ich in aquariums. but
dod you know that fish can develop an immunity/resistance to the parasite so that the ich may not show up on the fish?

it is possible that ich can survive in a tank with no outward visible signs. ich may not always be in an epidemic proportion. so it may appear the fish are not suffering from an infestation.
when in fact the fish is healthy enough to keep the ich in check(so to speak). it happens with other internal parasites too. ich can manifest ln thegills not appearing on the fish.
I think this may be what Deb is referring to.when the conditions are right/ripe the fish stressed their immunity/resistance can no longer keep the parasite in check and BINGO an infestation where you did not know one existed.
remember also that the ich cycle can be prolonged in cool waters where the 'egg's' may not hatch for weeks.
can you eliminate ich from a tank ?? Yes
can ich residce in a tank with no visible infestation? Yes.
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That is exactly what I said.

There is a small chance that, if treated improperly, you can reduce your ich infestation to such a low level that the fish display no symptoms yet are ripe for an outbreak.
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mvigor said:
That is exactly what I said.
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except you negelected to mention that the fish can build up an immunity/resistance to the ich.

in these cases fish in this tank may not ever exhibit any problems with ich..adding new fish which may perish from the ich but the original inhabitant does not get ich.

we are close tho
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