Understanding K, P, N, and trace

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I am researching the message boards.
Help me understand these elements...and the benefits of each, and signs by plants that says they are deficient.

K...potassium right????
N ??????
P ???????
Trace Elements ???????


WHat are these...there benefits....the signs of their deficiency

thanks
 
try searching for the defissiancys of plants under regular gardening type sites... the signs will be some what similar

the first three you listed are macro nutrients ie without some of each available your plants won't grow the others only play helping roles in the plants and may cause them to yellow but won't stop the growth unless the deficiency gets really bad

I can tell you that understanding it helps but you can also just get tests for potassium, phosphorus and nitrate(Nitrogen)
use the recomended items to add the nutrients to the tank, fleet enema for phosphorus, nu-salt(KCl) for Potassium and the stump remover for nitrate if you are not getting enough from your fish

do 50% weekly water changes and redose your ferts and traces


or you can do like I did and only have a small number of plants at the beginning and sort of gradually get to where you need to dose ferts
 
Here's a link to the article by Tom Barr that explains the whole clearing with a 50% water change and redosing regimen. Just about anything he writes about plants is worth reading.

Here's a good article on signs of nutrient deficiency.

If you look at any plant fertilizer in a garden center it'll have 3 numbers on the bottle. My little bottle of MiracleGro says 8-7-6. Thats N-P-K. Nitrogen - Phosphorus - Potassium, otherwise knowns as "Macros" or "Macronutrients". They are the basic and essential plant foods.

Nitrogen comes from the fish (that whole bit with the Nitrogen cycle), but in a heavily planted tank with lights and CO2 and what not the plants may just blow through all of the nitrogen in the tank. You can get all this stuff in bottles online or at a good LFS, or you can go DIY. Spectracide Stump Remover is a DIY favorite for nitrogen.

Phosphorus is the tracest of the macros. Hard to test for and too much can lead to algae issues. You're probably getting enough from the fish food, but if you decide you need to dose a $2 or $3 bottle of Fleet Enema at the pharmacy is most likely a lifetime supply. 2 or 3 drops a week.

Potassium is important and doesn't really have a natural way of getting into your tank beyond the natural levels in your tap water. DIYers use NuSalt from the supermarket.

If you look at the chart in the deficiency article there is a whole bunch of other stuff. Boron, Magnesium, etc. These are the "Micronutrients" or "Traces". Its just not worth trying to find all that sauce in the DIY world when you can just dose something like SeaChems Flourish twice a week.

I also use a capful of Flourish Iron at the weekly water changes.

HTH
 
potassium, phosphorus and nitrate(Nitrogen)
use the recomended items to add the nutrients to the tank, fleet enema for phosphorus, nu-salt(KCl) for Potassium and the stump remover for nitrate if you are not getting enough from your fish

I have not added any fish yet....

Can you direct me to websites to help me understand??

WOuld adding the fleet enema, nu-saltm and stump remover
be called DYI fertilizer??

If not, do you know of any DYI fertilizers???

Thanks
 
CARP GUY TO THE RESCUE

thats the info I am looking for...I will definitely look into it, as I have not added fish yet and I have about 9 plants in a 75 gal tank

I see to one
1)Introduce fish
2) Get more plants
3) Added traces once a week

No CO2 here ....

Thanks
 
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