Using dehumidifier water - a serious inquiry

Hydrophilus

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Greetings all,
Congrats to me, this is my first time posting on AC. Long time reader first time writer if you know what I mean. I joined because in the next 1-2 years I will be moving to a new place (will be recent college grad) and after being in the hobby for nearly a decade already, I will finally have the time, space, and money to set up my first serious fish room complete with automatic water changing systems, lights, the works.

I'm currently in the planning stages and making an excel file with all the necessary components of my system to ball park construction costs (estimating for 8 40-breeders, 12 20-longs, 18 10-gallon quarantine/growout tanks, and eventually a 200-300 gallon plywood tank/pond for small-scale personal tilapia production), when I realized I could potentially kill two birds with one stone by using the waste water from the dehumidifier in place of R/O water when making up soft water for some of the more delicate species I will hopefully keep.

I know that the water that is produced by a dehumidifier is borderline unsafe for fish, or downright dangerous depending on materials used in the condensing coil construction. I've looked into the matter a bit to see what other people have thought about using this water for fish/plants/etc as a replacement for R/O or DI water, and wasn't surprised to see this matter has been discussed here in the forums and elsewhere. More often than not the conversation ends when someone mentions the potential dangers presented by the condensing coils or by the concentration of pollutants in the air being pumped through the machine, but nobody considers processing this waste water prior to use. My concern isn't mainly with the cost of an R/O unit, as I'm already looking at ~$8k for initial setup of my system (although saving a couple hundred wouldn't hurt!), but rather the tremendous amount of waste water these units produce. I grew up not wasting anything if I could help it, especially water (I grew up in the southwest where water's always been at a premium!). Being able to use the waste water from a dehumidifier unit would prevent wastage of tap water used in production of R/O water, and prevent the wastage of water from a dehumidifier unit.

So, my challenge to all you DIYers out there is to help me come up with a solution to this problem. How could one safely utilize the essentially distilled water produced by a dehumidifier for making soft water for sensitive fish? These are some of the ideas that popped up in my head off the bat:

1) Select a dehumidifier that has an air filter, or jerry-rig something to filter the incoming air. This wouldn't solve the metal problems caused by the coils however.
2) Coat the condensing coils in a non-toxic, non-leaching substance that would still allow for the rapid cooling of water vapor (anyone know what substance they use on the coils of atmospheric water generators?).
3) After harvesting the water from the dehumidifier, run the water through a carbon cartridge or other filter to remove heavy metals and other contaminants before usage. This type of system could be set up in a manner similar to many rainwater collection systems.

Thoughts, anyone?
 
if you arent planning on keeping a reef, maybe you could just use RO water, it doesnt produce any waste water
i thought about the same thing as well, some ideas are using the rodi waste water to fill up a washing macheine, and i had the crazy idea of making the ro unit fill up a toilet.
people say you can use the wastewater from rodi to use on freshwater. if you wanna be really paranoid about it you can run chemical medias like copper absorbing media and carbon or purigen and the such. sorry if this wasnt what you want to hear haha, i personally wouldnt try the dehumidifier water
 
I thought RO water lacked the natural minerals that fish need to survive? Whats the advantage of using it?
 
If you're talking about having 40 fish tanks- Your dehimidifier will give you what, a gallon or two a day? That's not going to help at all. Besdes, you might as well not even bring the dehumidifier- you're never going to "dehumidify" a place with that much water on the inside.

Csinclair- Different fish need different water conditions. The Amazon is very soft water, with almost no dissolved minerals and high levels of organic acids. Fish have evolved over millions of years to thrive in their local conditions- those conditions vary greatly from region to region. We struggle to recreate those conditions in the aquarium. RO water will imitate the water that discus and angels and other SA cichlids would have in the Amazon, their native habitat. While some fish are flexible, some require specific parameters.
 
All the tanks will be covered to help with evaporation. If the humidity is still bad, I wouldn't mind investing in a second dehumidifier or even an air exchanger, but I really don't think that will be necessary. The dehumidifier may only produce a gallon or two a day, but that's plenty. Virtually all of the tanks will be getting straight filtered tap water,with only a couple of small tanks that will be getting pre-made blackwater. Water changes will only be done on these tanks every two weeks or so, after I have harvested enough "distilled" water to make a large batch of blackwater. If I can get more water than a gallon or two per day, great. I can do water changes more often, store it for later use, or just have an overflow from the collection bucket to the main drainage system to bleed off excess water.
 
i dont know if this has been mentioned or if you found a solution for , but being an hvac tech i know that most if not all evap and condenser coils are treated with chemicals... ive yet to test the water myself but i know its usually not potable.
 
Sounds awesome - good luck with your new setup!

What about having a few large plants in your fishroom? These might very well be happy to drink up your dehumidifier water directly. Peace lilies, anthuriums, scheffleras and philodendrons all like lots of water - maybe if you used self watering pots and a spray bottle as a mister...

Sorry if that sounds dumb, I just feel like a fish room should have tons of houseplants - to make it a "living" room so to speak :)
 
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