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Cbelair

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Hi all, I recent spotted 2 fish with some sort of illness. the fish are in a 29g tank, temp is 78. 25% to 50% water changes weekly. Tank is 8 months old. No new fish added to tank. Only change in tank is that about a week ago I changed the substrate and added 2 pc of driftwood. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

pleco x 1
betta x 1
platy x 4
guppy x 1

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gmwJOY

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hmm
remove betta to the separate tank
dont do too much water change it will stress them , 60 % 70 % monthly is just enough, make sure filtration is good enough , tem is 78 f right ? which is good 78- 80 f, but for any kind of illness try 32 c for a day, then reduce the temp slowly
 
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32C will harm a guppy, depending on the species of pleco it may also be harmed. A Betta splendens can handle 30C, so 32 may be OK for a bit. The temp. range for a platy is 68-79°F (20-26°C) do not put one into 92F water. Before fish may die because they are in fatally cold or hot water, they will undergo extreme stress.

One other note, take a lesson from human medicine. If you have every been operated on and were not out before they whelled you into the operating room, you probably compalined about how cold it was there. the reason is that colder is harmful to the nasty bacteria that they want to avoid. If you are treating a fish with certain types of problems warming up the water will only speed up the harm.

How about we take a look at what Duke University has to say about water changes. This is from their advice to beginner fish keepers.

What is the purpose of regular water changes, and how frequently should they be done?

The solution to pollution is dilution; water changes replace a portion of "dirty" water with an equal portion of clean water, effectively diluting the concentrations of undesirable substances in your tank. In an established tank, nitrate is the primary toxin that builds up. Regular water changes are the cheapest, safest and most effective way of keeping nitrate levels at reasonable levels. During the tank cycling phase, however, ammonia or nitrite may be the substances that need to be diluted and removed. Likewise, if medications have been added to your tank, they may need to be removed after they've served their primary purpose.

The effectiveness of water changes is determined by two factors: their frequency and the percentage of water that is replaced. The more often water is replaced, or the greater the quantity of replaced water at a change determines overall effectiveness.

The benefits of water changes must be balanced by the stress caused by a sudden change of your tank's water chemistry. If tank water has similar pH, GH and KH as tap water, changing 50% (or more) of the water at one time will not affect fish. On the other hand, if your tank's pH is (for example) 6.3, while your replacement water has a pH of 7.5, replacing 50% of the water all at once will change the pH of your tank significantly (possibly more than 50% depending on buffering factors), which will stress your fish, possibly enough to kill them.

Because water changes are the first line of defense in dealing with problems such as disease, you want to be able to do large, frequent partial water changes during emergency periods. Consequently, you want your tank's water chemistry to closely match that of your replacement water. That way, you always have the option of performing large water changes on short notice. Note that this is the way tanks start out; when you initially set up your tank, the water is the same as that from your tap. Over time, however, the tank's water chemistry may "drift" relative to tap water due to acidification from the nitrification cycle, the addition of chemical additives such as "Ph-up" or "Ph-down", the use non-inert tank gravel (e.g. crushed coral or sea shells), etc.

How frequently should partial water changes be made?

The more frequent the changes, the less water that needs to be replaced. However, the longer between changes, the more stressful changes potentially become, because a larger portion of the water gets replaced. Replacing roughly 25% of your tank's water bi-weekly is a good minimal starting point, but may not be enough. The proper frequency really depends on such factors as the fish load in your tank. Nonetheless, you should do water changes often enough so that:
  1. Nitrate levels stay at or below 50ppm, and preferably MUCH lower (less than 10ppm is a good optimal value).
  2. The change in water chemistry resulting from a change is small. In particular, the before and after pH of your tank shouldn't differ by more than .2 units. (Use a test kit the first few times to get a feel for what's right.) If your pH changes too much as a result of a water change, perform changes more frequently, but replace less water at each change.

Water changes remove nitrates after they've been produced. Nitrogenous substances in the form of uneaten fish food, detritus, etc. can also be removed BEFORE they get broken down into nitrate. This is achieved by cleaning your mechanical and biological filter regularly, and by vacuuming the gravel with a gravel cleaner. This should be done every time you perform a water change, e.g., every two weeks.
from https://users.cs.duke.edu/~narten/faq/water-changes.html
 
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gmwJOY

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nice and good information, thanks, but you know i am in this hobby for about 9 years , and i do same what i tell you, with no problem, by the way yes some time high tem. may be harmful.. and yes it will seep up the process , so that medicine will work better . but every one has their point according to their exp..
 

Cbelair

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Hi Everyone, I ended up moving the betta to his own 10g tank. I have kept the water at 78, and added 2teaspoon of aquarium salt to the water. I am doing 50% water changes daily and the improvement to his wound has been excellent. It’s not perfect yet, but much better then what it was. he is eating great, and busy building a huge bubble nest. I think he is much happier in the smaller tank with no tank mates.
thank you everyone for your time and for responding. It’s nice to know Help is only a message away. - Carey
 
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