ya'll makin my want goldfish grrrrrrr

[livebearerfreak]

if i went with goldfish would i need a heater? without heaters tank dont get above 74 ( 68 to 72 ) and what kind can i have in my 75/80?? i was told ( well i read ) 20 gallons per fancy then 10 gallon for every other fancy. so that means i can have 7 fancy in my 75/80 right?? what about dojo loaches?? i may even add danios ( dont know if im goin this route yet just researchin first )

any other info u can provide?

 

[Somervell]

LBF- Don't do goldfish. They are more trouble than they are worth. I see them as being immensely challenging. I keep three large tanks of them, and they take much more time than any other fish I have kept. Technically, no, you don't need a heater for them, but you need a lot of space, really frequent water changes (up to 40% per week, depending on filtration, substrate and other issues) and HUGE levels of filtration for them to be happy. No one likes a sad goldfish

So many other things to spend time and money on-- like saving and planning for your future along the lines of the other threads you've started. Best of luck

 

[livebearerfreak]

so then just stay with the devil/cons i ahve or a community tank?

 

[Somervell]

I would do whatever is easiest for you to manage and what you know best (and can potentially transport) in the future.- Just a personal opinion. Goldfish would be neither.

 

[Sevast0]

LBF- Don't do goldfish. They are more trouble than they are worth. I see them as being immensely challenging. I keep three large tanks of them, and they take much more time than any other fish I have kept. Technically, no, you don't need a heater for them, but you need a lot of space, really frequent water changes (up to 40% per week, depending on filtration, substrate and other issues) and HUGE levels of filtration for them to be happy. No one likes a sad goldfish

So many other things to spend time and money on-- like saving and planning for your future along the lines of the other threads you've started. Best of luck

I have to agree that goldfish are a lot of work, but I personally think they are worth the work, money, and time spent on them if you really enjoy the fish and are able to put out what they need.

 

[kelly82]

:goldfish: i love my goldfish, and i think they are well worth the hard work and extra time/effort they seem to need. mine are at a permanent 75* as i cant lower the temp, it just sits at this all the time.

as for stocking levels,im overstocked in my 180, i have 14 at the moment, 15 by the end of the week as i have one in quarantine that i got hold of from a small tank with 3 aquatic frogs at my cousins boyfriends house( 2 foot tank, 1 oranda and 3 aquatic frogs, 6 months+ with only water top offs :irked: )! he wanted me to take the frogs too, but they can stay with him until he finds them a new home. i wont say how many id keep in your tank, but i have to do 70-80% water changes on mine every weekend and im running a lot of filtration on my tank,and have live plants too. serves me right for keeping too many fish in there i guess. i dont mind, anything to keep them happy. i certainly agree though, goldfish are definately harder work than any other fish ive kept.

 

[Trigger1985]

I've gotta agree on the not starting a new huge tank if you're planning on moving soon. It was hard enough to move the 25 and stand when empty and not worried about killing a bio filter. Now I'm looking at moving 150 miles with it, keeping the residents in tact when I get there. That's been the main reason I didn't start my 30 gallon salt tank, that and money not spent on Live Rock, heathers, etc is money I can spend on getting the hell out of here. Excuse the language, but I'm a boomeranger. I moved out, the recession hit and I lost my job and back in with the parents I went- you don't know how much you don't miss having your ma looking over your shoulder all the time until you dont have to deal with it anymore, haha.

 

[Somervell]

All things considered, I am sticking to my guns in this particular case. I didn't mean to suggest they weren't worth the time, just considering the OP's situation and original question. I love goldfish-- too much, if you get my drift.

 

[kelly82]

I love goldfish-- too much, if you get my drift.

my family say the same about me :goldfish:

 

[livebearerfreak]

ill just stick to my convicts ( i may get one more and if i do its gunna be a pink con ) right now i have 7 in my 75/80