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ArkyLady
04-29-2003, 11:07 PM
I'm looking at setting up a series of small tanks for breeding some guppies. They will be mostly 5 and 10 gal with a few 20 gal growout tanks. When I set this up before it was a smaller setup of only 5 tanks and I had sponge filters in each tank and did the water changes manually. This time I'd like to plan better and set things up a bit more sensibly so it's not as difficult to maintain.

I'm envisioning a central sump/filter system that heats and filters the water, then returns it back to the tanks. I'm unsure how to get the water from the tanks into the sump. I read that drilling glass can weaken it which I'd assume would be more of an issue with the smaller tanks? And the DIY overflow setups I've seen seem rather large to be using in these small tanks.

Using sponge filters is very easy to setup, but the main reason I'd like to use a central sump/filter is so that I can easily automate water changes and also have a central location to heat the water instead of keeping a heater in each tank. Although this will be setup in a nicely insulated building just for this purpose, I'd like to have heaters as backup in case the temperature isn't just right since I won't be able to afford to install a thermostatically controlled heating system for the building.

Once I figure out how to get all the water into the sump, I'd like to install what would basically be an auto top off system. I'll be having to clean the fish waste and left over foods from the bottom of the tanks at least twice a day, so if the water that is sucked out during this process is automatically replaced with fresh water (already treated and stored in a holding tank), that should be enough to cover my water changes. I can easily keep track of how much water is being changed per week and pump more water out if necessary.

I'm a little nervous about designing my own system since I've never had a sump and I've read of disasters happening by not fully understanding what will happen during a power outage or if something got blocked up somewhere. Also, let's not forget that many of these tanks will be housing fry, so we don't want them to be sucked out and going for a ride!

So if you were setting up a fish room from scratch and wanted to do it right the first time for maximum efficiency, what are your ideas? Diagrams and pictures are welcome and encouraged :)

superstein61
04-29-2003, 11:15 PM
Well, I never set up a fish room, but I found these articles / diagrams interesting (PS I have seen this setup in person - it is impressive - and seems simple to operate)

http://www.alloddballaquatics.com/articles/corycrumbs.html#SYSTEM “A”

http://www.alloddballaquatics.com/system_A.jpg

somefinnfishy
04-30-2003, 9:29 AM
Although this will be setup in a nicely insulated building just for this purpose, I'd like to have heaters as backup in case the temperature isn't just right since I won't be able to afford to install a thermostatically controlled heating system for the building.

You can get nice space heaters that have a thermostat.make fliping fish easyer as every tank is the same temp.
I run 4 tanks on a central set up.I love it!
you'll need a over flow box or a drilled tank.
You make U-tubes to jump from tank to tank.If your sump isnt on the floor you can use a power head or canister filter as your pump.

As for things I wish I had for my fish room.
A nice filling hose with a valved pvc end.
GFI's everywhere.
Room to walk behind a large system.
Plan for energy savings/bulb costs use 4 foot bulbs everywhere you can You can light 4 tanks with one 40W bulb.
Build all your stands the same height so you can add and remove them to your central tanks.

Drawbacks
Water changes only 20-30% max without loseing siphon/flooding sump.
illness spreads FAST.
I can handle a tank kill but if this set crashed I would CRY and quit.