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Gordeez
05-13-2003, 6:12 PM
#1.
http://www.pbase.com/image/16122635/medium.jpg
#2.
http://www.pbase.com/image/16660752.jpg
#3.
http://www.pbase.com/image/16660817.jpg
dbcb314
05-13-2003, 7:31 PM
3rd one looks like a yellow lab
Gordeez
05-13-2003, 7:34 PM
dbcb314: thanks for the reply, but I dont beleive its a Yellow Lab.
Here is a Link to my Yellow Lab.
Yellow Lab (http://www.pbase.com/mikal/yellow_lab)
mome rath
05-13-2003, 10:26 PM
# 3 is Pseudotropheus (tropheops)? Har, probably wrong... don't have the books to back me up here. Definitely not a lab...
ChilDawg
05-13-2003, 10:33 PM
Psuedotropheus sp. "tropheops mbenji yellow" for #3.
ChilDawg
05-13-2003, 10:37 PM
The first one looks like it could be Genyochromis mento.
ChilDawg
05-13-2003, 10:38 PM
And the second one looks almost exactly like Gephyrochromis moorii.
The second picture is definitely a Labeotropheus trewavasae.
I am not sure about #1, but #3 could be a crossbreed with Yellow lab. (Could be wrong about that)
mome rath
05-14-2003, 10:00 AM
Fish # 2.
http://www.cichlidnewsmagazine.com/issues/2002jul/images/page36a.jpg
Labeotropheus trewavasae
http://www.cichlider.com/C-fotos/Billed%20nr%2018%20gehyrochromis%20moorii.jpg
Gephyrochromis moorii
Looks more like a Labeotropheus sp. to me, don't know about trewavasae though.
JSchmidt
05-14-2003, 10:08 AM
Fish #2 does have that labeotropheus snout, but the coloration is not a familiar one... could be a color morph or a hybrid?
Fish #3 is hard to tell because his mouth is open and seems to distorting the shape of his head.
These threads make me realize how lousy I am at IDing fish...
Jim
jimbo
05-14-2003, 12:32 PM
Originally posted by JSchmidt
Fish #2 does have that labeotropheus snout, but the coloration is not a familiar one... could be a colour morph or a hybrid?
Could be, I have searched the web to look for the same coloration
but couldn’t find any.
So perhaps you're right, unless it's a juv. but I am not sure about that.
Nice picture though. (Gephyrochromis moorii)
Jimmy.
Gordeez
05-14-2003, 1:59 PM
Thanks For ALL Of your Replies!
All the fish posted are Juvs., with the biggest fish coming in at about 1.5 inches.
Fish #1 = .75 In
Fish #2 = 1 in.
Fish #3 = 1.25 in.
I will post a picture of fish #3 With his mouth closed, to see if that will help a lil.
I am sorry to say, but it seems to have the features of the Yellow lab.
Couldn't it be a crossbreed with some other fish in your tank or
is that out of the question.
Fish do some strange things when you look the other way.
By the way, don't give them to much beer; she/he seems to have a nice looking "potbelly".
Good luck with your search.
Jimmy
Gordeez
05-14-2003, 3:18 PM
Jimbo, Its not a Yellow Lab HEre is a Picture of my Yellow Lab.
http://www.pbase.com/image/16122638.jpg
As for Crossbreed, i dont know, but i know it wasnt in my tank, since the largest African i crrently have is about 1.5 INches.
I don't think I can help you with #3.
But I can't think of any other fish that comes close to #3.
And also, there is no other fish I can think of that comes close to a Yellow lab.
If it's possible, ask the person who sold or gave you this specimen.
Jimmy
Mantis_22
05-14-2003, 4:14 PM
I think its a color morphed peacock, looks like mine but opposite color.
mome rath
05-14-2003, 5:20 PM
It's not a peacock.
Gordeez
05-15-2003, 8:03 AM
HERe is a Betterpicture of Fish #1 and # 3
#1.
http://www.pbase.com/image/16696594.jpg
#3.
http://www.pbase.com/image/16688424.jpg
ChilDawg
05-15-2003, 8:06 AM
Did you figure out #2 yet?
ChilDawg
05-15-2003, 8:07 AM
Also, are these for sure Malawis? I ask that because #1 looks like a Lamprologus spp. or a Neolamprologus spp. from the newest pic.
Gordeez
05-15-2003, 8:08 AM
It looks like A Labeotropheus trewavasae, like the picture Mome Rath posted.
Do you have any other thoughts maybe?
Gordeez
05-15-2003, 8:09 AM
Im honestly not that sure, i guess thats what happens whn you buy from Petsmart Asst. Africans...lol
ChilDawg
05-15-2003, 8:18 AM
I know...usually they are Malawis, though, but that one looks like one of the Lamprologines--check those out and see if you find what you need there...
Verse914
05-15-2003, 9:08 AM
the third pic looks like a male pseudotropheus saulosi just finishing its morph to its yellow color.
mogurnda
05-15-2003, 10:15 AM
Hate to differ, but #2 looks like Labeotropheus fuellborni to me. Body looks too heavy to be trewavasae.
#1 looks like a female/subdominant male Mel. johanni. Not a chance it's a Neolamprologus.
Verse914
05-15-2003, 10:23 AM
yeah, #1 is definitely not a neolamprologus. It could possibly be a tropheops.
jimbo
05-15-2003, 12:22 PM
http://www.bigskycichlids.com/images/Psaulosi_f.jpg
This one looks like the second picture of #1
May I Introduce to you....pseudotropheus saulosi
ChilDawg
05-15-2003, 12:29 PM
I think Jimbo nailed that one.
Gordeez
05-15-2003, 12:33 PM
Thank's Jimbo!!
JSchmidt
05-15-2003, 12:39 PM
Originally posted by mogurnda
Hate to differ, but #2 looks like Labeotropheus fuellborni to me. Body looks too heavy to be trewavasae.
It's so hard to tell... I remember reading in one of Ad Koning's books that, unless you know the locale of it's origin, it's very difficult to differentiate between trewavasae and fulleborni. I have adult trewavasaes and a male fulleborni, and they are so similar....
I know the conventional differentiation is by the body thickness of the fulleborni, but well fed, full-grown trewavasae get rather chunky, too...
I'd hate to have to bet money on it being a fulleborni vs. trewavasae (or vice versa).
Jim
mogurnda
05-15-2003, 1:01 PM
I'd hate to have to bet money on it being a fulleborni vs. trewavasae (or vice versa). Me too. Just thankful this is free!
mome rath
05-15-2003, 1:23 PM
Originally posted by Verse914
It could possibly be a tropheops.
...Or it could most definitely a P. tropheops
;)
http://cichlidae.com/articles/a100/a082-03.jpg
Mom and dad Saulosi
On this page a few P.tropheops
http://malawicichlids.com/mw09006a.htm
And how about this one, also p.tropheops
http://george.peabody.yale.edu/CICHLID/PP/pt4e.jpg
mome rath
05-15-2003, 5:29 PM
Originally posted by jimbo
Mom and dad Saulosi
Red X for me :(
ChilDawg
05-15-2003, 5:30 PM
I'll try it.
http://cichlidae.com/articles/a100/a082-03.jpg
mome rath
05-15-2003, 5:37 PM
Red X again. Can you post a link?
[edit]
Nevermind. I got the link from your post and went directly to the URL. Now it shows up in ther forum.
ChilDawg
05-15-2003, 5:40 PM
Only while it's cached, though...my comp got rid of it!
mome rath
05-15-2003, 5:43 PM
I can click on the beautiful X and click on "show picture" now. Wasn't working before.
ChilDawg
05-15-2003, 5:45 PM
It's all pretty bizarre...it works, then it doesn't...but we can at least go to the page: http://cichlidae.com/articles/a100/a082-03.jpg
ChilDawg
05-15-2003, 5:46 PM
Oh, just forget it...that didn't work. If you can't get the picture, click on properties, call up the pic, and then it will show up.
mome rath
05-15-2003, 6:00 PM
It's a nice picture, though... har
DavidT
05-16-2003, 7:20 AM
Basically both the yellow cichlids are without doubt hybrids.
Probably not what you wanted to hear.
David
DavidT
05-16-2003, 7:25 AM
Originally posted by Verse914
the third pic looks like a male pseudotropheus saulosi just finishing its morph to its yellow color.
male saulosi don't morph to yellow, they start yellow / orange and gradually change colour to blue / black stripe.
David