question about angels and a 55gal

lucid_boy

lucid_boy

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hello I have a question regarding angelfish.
I am a in the process of setting up a new 55gal tank. and I really would like to have 1 or 2 angelfish (preferably just 1)
anyway I really do not know that much about the tank other than I already have 3 albino rainbow sharks and they have 1st dibs on the tank. I know that they are bottom dwellers so they most likely will not pose a problem but herein lies my 2 questions....

1. since it will have the 3 albino rainbow sharks, and they are sorta territorial, would they bother or other wise be bothered by the angel?

2. also what other fish would work out with the angel, I really want to have some gourami (pearl, honey, or opaline) besides the gourami, what are other good fish, I want to have a schooling fish such as the silver dollar, anyway what do you think angel experts?

thanks in advance

:wall: (fish confuse me at this point)
 
1) The rainbow sharks may or may not bother the angels (depends on the fish). My guess..They will.
2) Silver dollars grow too big for a school in a 55.
3) Any of the gouramis that you want will be OK.
4) How about a school of semi large tetras (head & tail lights, Black skirts, Lemon, Diamond, ect.).
 
tanker said:
1) The rainbow sharks may or may not bother the angels (depends on the fish). My guess..They will.
2) Silver dollars grow too big for a school in a 55.
3) Any of the gouramis that you want will be OK.
4) How about a school of semi large tetras (head & tail lights, Black skirts, Lemon, Diamond, ect.).
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Good post.:)

Don't even bother mixing rainbow sharks with the angelfish. Plecs, South American dwarf cichlids, tetras, pencilfish, hatchetfish, rasboras and cories are a few fish that are suitable with angels.

Be careful with the tetras you get. Most species are vicious fin nippers particularly serpae tetras but it is down to luck whichever species you'll find compatible with the angels and other long-finned fellow tankmates.

Good luck.
 
Mixing one rainbow fish with an angel might be bad. Mixing 3 would just be a horrible idea.

any gourami is ok

silver dollars get too big. cory cats school and they could be your body feeder. Any larger tetra (smaller ones will be eaten by the angle most likely) would be fine though.

And why only one angle btw??
 
Giant danios are an active schooling fish and shiny like the silver dollars. I never had trouble with them fin nipping. The three rainbow sharks will do one of two things: either shred the angels fins or ignore it completely because they are too busy chasing each other.
 
hmmmm. well I figured that 1 is enough, but what things would you consider if you wanted 2?
you see I wanted to have a peaceful, community tank (I bought the rainbow sharks at LFS, they told me they were non-aggressive and that 3 would be ok for a 10gal!)
honestly that was the main reason that I wanted to get a bigger tank. to try and ease the little albino sharks. but I really like the angels.
if you have 2 angels, 1 Male and 1 Female, would a 55 gal be ok and would this affect the fish that would be ok to have in tank otherwise?
 
lucid_boy said:
(I bought the rainbow sharks at LFS, they told me they were non-aggressive and that 3 would be ok for a 10gal!)
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Which is why we better try to do research before following their advice.:)
if you have 2 angels, 1 Male and 1 Female, would a 55 gal be ok and would this affect the fish that would be ok to have in tank otherwise?
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The question(and even trouble) is how are you going to determine their sexes? It is nearly impossible unless they are in spawning conditions wherein males have their tubes positioned forward and has a pointed tip. Females have rounder tip and tube positioned backward.

Another thing: angelfish prefer to pick their own partner and this is impossible without raising young angelfish to maturity or putting adults altogether in one tank allowing them to pair off naturally. I prefer the former. There is plenty of time to prefer to allow them to breed and is cheaper at that. Once paired off, both angelfish will harass other fish as they try to defend their chosen territory.
 
actually the ovipositor id is the best way to dtermine the sexes of angels..I do have to differ on the tube position tho.. the tubes are not by any sense of the term very rigid ..as a matter of fact the males tube/papila is thinner and appears to be a bit ointed and longer. the females ovipositor is a short blount , rounded tube..go figure easier to pass the eggs thru maybe:idea:

the different in finnage has been attributed more to sexing..in particular the anal fin the males may exhibit a stiffer fins pointing slightly forward 90 degrees+ the females tends to be slanted slightly back. but this is not the most reliabel method(it does work if you can see the subtle differences)

angles actually are a schooling species and in the wild you may see large schools of angels..I have seen large schools of wild altums and scalre in large tanks 15-20 is not an uncommon school in these large tanks.

you can also keep m a few species with angels..other compatible cichlids include dwarf cichlids(rams and apisto's) flag cichlid(festivum) keyholes(maronii) and I always get a rise out of this one...Discus..with care and close observation..but generally in a bit larger tank as discus should be kept in groups of minimum 4 and they need 10-15 g per adult fish (as do angels)
 
rainbow sharks are not very good tankmates for angels, nor each other. as they age they will most likley become aggressive towards on another, and in fish that swim around the bottom of the tank in general.

opalin gouramis are also not very good tankmates for angels. they tend to be aggressive towards other fish in the tank that are smaller than they are, and can be nippy.
 
be carful because 2 of them are likly to be agressive to each other from my experience
 
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