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olaf
05-30-2003, 3:57 PM
Does any one keep target fish?

olaf
05-31-2003, 12:31 AM
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rjl420
05-31-2003, 11:34 AM
too big for my tanks, but very impressive lookng (especially from above). seem to be a good tank mate for archers (a good archer needs a target right?)

They've never been available at my lfs, I'd like to see them IRL because I'm sure pics don't do them justice.

getting some/got some?

Pufferpunk
06-01-2003, 9:23 PM
W have them for sale at my lfs. Very coo looking fish. Could they go with a couple of GSPs & a Ceylon at high BW/SW?

olaf
06-01-2003, 11:06 PM
I had four of them...
They are little terrors, they shredded one of my archers to death.
They have a spur on their gill that they use as defense/attach.
They would swim up to my archers and monos and spur them in the side knocking off scales and cutting into flesh.
I separated them and put them into their own tank. Three of them died within in a hour of each other I rescued the last one. I threw him into the large tank and he was fine. No clue! Water was balanced and chemicals were correct.
It was water from the larger tank. "?"
After a little while the target fish started in on the other fish again. So I clipped the spur. The target fish would still try to spur the other fish so I finally moved him to another tank with three silver shark catfish. No problem after that.

olaf
06-01-2003, 11:22 PM
Terapon jarbua
Jarbua terapon
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Family: Terapontidae (Grunters or tigerperches, thornfishes)

Order: Perciformes
Class: Actinopterygii (ray-finned fishes)
Max. size: 36.0 cm TL (male/unsexed; Ref. 9710)
Environment: demersal; catadromous; freshwater; brackish; marine ; depth range 20 - 290 m
Climate: tropical; 26 - 29°C
Importance: fisheries: minor commercial; aquaculture: commercial
Distribution:
Gazetteer Indo-Pacific: Red Sea and East Africa to Samoa, north to southern Japan, south to the Arafura Sea (Ref. 9819), Australia, and Lord Howe Island. Also in India (Ref. 43081).
Diagnosis: Dorsal spines (total): 11-12; Dorsal soft rays (total): 9-11; Anal spines: 3-3; Anal soft rays: 7-10. Lower opercular spine extending well beyond the opercular flap. Post temporal bone exposed posteriorly and serrate. Body color is fawn above, cream below, nape dark; head, body and fins with and iridescent sheen. Three or four curved dark brown bands run from the nape to the hind part of the body, the lowermost continuing across the middle of the caudal fin.
Biology: Found over shallow sandy bottoms, in the vicinity of river mouths. Enter estuaries and rivers (Ref. 1479). Juveniles common in sandy intertidal areas. Found in schools (Ref. 9710). Omnivorous (Ref. 7300), feeding on fishes, insects, algae, and sand-dwelling invertebrates (Ref. 9710). Spawn in the sea and juveniles migrate into fresh water (Ref. 2847). Produce sound (Ref. 9137).

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Pufferpunk
06-02-2003, 12:19 AM
They love in schools, huh? It doesn't look like the fish for me with those killer spines & all! I don't think anyone from my lfs knows about that.

olaf
06-02-2003, 3:48 PM
From what I have read they are suposed to get alone with Archers, Monos, and Scats.
The target fish never did bother my scats.

Pufferpunk
06-03-2003, 10:11 AM
I told my lfs about those "spikes" yeaterday. The guy just laughed & shrugged his shoulders. Actually he didn't even know they had targetfish! :mad:

olaf
06-03-2003, 10:31 PM
About going with GSP or a Ceylon Puffer I don't see why not. The Target fish never bothered my GSP or F8P.
The Target fish are full salt as adults. I have the one at 1.015, and doing good.

Pufferpunk
06-04-2003, 12:41 AM
What about the schooling factor? I probably only have room for one. Also, I have 4 damsels. Could they be harmed?

olaf
06-04-2003, 5:20 AM
Yes they school, the more the better. Right now mine is schooling with 3 silver shark catfish. (it must have an identity issue by now) :D
Damsels are pretty agressive.
I haven't had any experience with Damsels, so I don't know what the out come would be between these two fish.
The closest think that I have that would be close to a Damsel would be Orange and Green Chromides. That was no interaction between them.
Damsels aren't schooling fish they are territorial, so if you only got one target fish it would probably try to school with the Damsel and the Damsel would get mad and try to defend its territoy.
I think color (color patterns), shape, and size have a lot to do with how my target fish interacted with my other fish.
The Target fish would try to school with my Silver Scat.

olaf
06-04-2003, 5:24 AM
What size tank?
Taget fish max size is 14".

Pufferpunk
06-04-2003, 9:34 AM
Opps, way too big!

olaf
06-04-2003, 11:59 PM
I have had mine for over a year and he is about 4 inches.
I got them when they were only an inch long.