Mafia #6.....The Play

[Rbishop]

The players.....24 total.....

jpappy 789
Dangerdoll
IceH2O
bkw1982
OgreMkV
judgemax
MikenDanielle
Dwarf Puffers
sploke
Hooked Newbie
johnlarson66
ZSandmann
plantling
KingOfTheDeep
joander123
Cory Lover
Swayde
Coler
charlie_stubbs
mee-mee
Jensons
nickmcmechan
Madcrawdad
clown-lover

[Rbishop]

24 Townies


17 Innocents


7 Mafia

[Hooked Newbie]

Game on! Suspected mafia...

jpappy 789
Dangerdoll
IceH2O
bkw1982
OgreMkV
judgemax
MikenDanielle
Dwarf Puffers
sploke
Hooked Newbie
johnlarson66
ZSandmann
plantling
KingOfTheDeep
joander123
Cory Lover
Swayde
Coler
charlie_stubbs
mee-mee
Jensons
nickmcmechan
Madcrawdad
clown-lover

[Rbishop]

Social Rules

1) Game members only please in this thread. Watching is encouraged, but please do not post ideas, theories or anything else. You could have signed up, but nooooo.

2) This is a game. What is said in the game stays in the game. There will be accusations, incriminations, etc. But it's a game. If anybody gets too rowdy, I'll ask the mods to shut it down.

Never take things to a personal level.

This is a game, for entertainment only, play with enthusiasm, not hate.

3) When I declare it to be night, please don't post until 'morning'. You're 'asleep'.

Game Mechanics

1) Each 'day' everyone in the town (including mafia) can vote to lynch someone. You vote by saying (in bold)… I vote to lynch so and so.

You must vote each day, even if it is for No One.


If you decide to switch your vote, state in bold you are doing so and the new vote.

Do not put your vote in your signature.

2) Whoever has the most votes gets lynched. If you have two and everyone else has one vote… you get lynched.

a. The priority of lynchings is Townies, Vigilante, Mafia, and then Untimely Deaths.

b. The Doctor’s protection overrides any of the lynchings.

2a) If multiple people have the same number of votes, I will randomly decide which of those gets lynched.

3) You may vote to lynch no-one.

4) If you aren't active for two day/night cycles, with at least posting once, then you will pass away from some strange (probably embarrassing) illness that I will give you.

5) Everything stays in the game, no PMing people and setting up deals or alliances, or discussing issues in this game on other sites. The sole exception to this is the authorization by me for special role players to do so.

a.I STRONGLY SUGGEST THAT AUTHORIZED PEOPLE COMMUNICATE VIA AN OFF SITE MESSAGING BOARD LIKE MSN/AIM/ICQ.

b.I STRONGLY SUGGEST THAT AUTHORIZED PEOPLE COMMUNICATE VIA AN OFF SITE MESSAGING BOARD LIKE MSN/AIM/ICQ.



6) You can say whatever you want in the game, but you can't 'prove it' with my PM to you.

Anyone can declare themselves the detective; indeed, I've seen mafia do so quite effectively for a short time.

The mafia wins when there is the same number of mafia as innocents. They can control the lynching then.

The innocents win if they lynch all the mafia.

If you have any questions, PM me. If it's important to all, I'll post it.

1) No one... except the mafia... is to discuss the game outside of the thread. That's kind of the point. If you are discussing things, then everyone else doesn't get the benefit of your deliberations. Think town hall rather than internet chat room.

2) DO NOT USE MY PM'S TO PROVE YOUR INNOCENCE.

3) THIS GAME IS NOT TO BE DISCUSSED ON OTHER SITES, THREADS OR CHAT, UNTIL THE GAME IS OVER.

The players are the townsfolk in the great city of ACville.

Some are Innocents; the remaining are Mafia; the Mafia know who each other are, and can communicate with one another.


The Detective...investigates the townspeople to confirm Mafia identities, find other special role players. The Detective can do one investigation each game night by PM to me and I will confirm the identity. The Detective needs to persuade folks to lynch the right person.

The Doctor...has the ability to protect one person each game night. They do this by sending me a PM at game nightfall on who is to be protected that night. Be sure to protect the right person, Doctor! The Doctor can protect them self only on nights when the doctor has no votes to be lynched by the townsfolk’s.

The Vigilante...a total wild card...he can kill once per game by sending me a PM at the start of the game night. The Vigilante can be an Innocent or a Mafia, and strike against either.

The Don...has total control of the Mafia. He will PM me at the beginning of the night with the Mafia's choice of who gets lynched, EVEN IF IT IS ONE OF HIS OWN! He can do three investigations to me by PM, one a game night, in his efforts to find the Doctor, Detective, or Vigilante. Should the Don be lynched, each of the remaining Mafia will have to PM me, and I will break any ties.

FOR THE FIRST 6 DAY/NIGHTS, THE DON WILL SHOW AS AN INNOCENT ON ANY INVESTIGATION OR UPON LYNCHING.


The Unexpected Post…some may or may not get a PM from me to put something in their next post. It may be true or a lie, but you will have to live with it.

The Secret Identity…one or more townies who befall a lynch/hit will not have their special role revealed until the night after their death. Limit of two times that this will be done.

The “Dead Men Tell Tales” vote. Sometime after 5 deaths have occurred, one of the “dead” will get to vote in the townies lynch vote. This will be decided by a random number generator, and only happen twice.

The "Snitch". One of the Mafia is a Snitch. Since their cousin Vinny was ousted by the Mafia last year, they feel some revenge is needed. The Snitch does not reveal his identity to anybody, not even the Don, except by me upon their death. The Snitch will PM me a list of 4 names, their choosing, whenever I ask. At least one member of this list will be a Mafia member. These names will be worked into the night time story line. Innocents do not want to kill the snitch too early, and the Mafia want him gone quickly...maybe, depends on their plans.

DO NOT EDIT YOUR POSTS!

If you need to clarify things or correct them, make a new post.

NO AFTER DEATH STATEMENTS...SAVE THEM FOR THE END OF GAME COMMENTS.

If for any reason you need to leave the game, please PM me, do not post it in the thread.

Secret Identity holds the revealing of their role until the next game night. If a member is lynched/hit that is on my Secret Identity List, and they are selected for investigation before I reveal their identity, the investigation will result in "Not Enough Conclusive Evidence". Since the Don is limited to 3 Investigations, the "Not Enough Conclusive Evidence" that he could get will not count against his 3 allowed.

"In the game you will get accused, grilled, made to look like an idiot, and a hundred other things. IN THE GAME. Do not take anything personally or make ANY personal attacks."

[Rbishop]

Please allow me some more posts...game will start with a "game on' post by me...:dance:

[Rbishop]

PMs will be going out now....


DO NOT READ ANYTHING INTO THE TRAFFIC YOU SEE!

Many new folks and some will have questions.

Please read the above rules, since the definitions have changed some from previous games.


Once again, I strongly encourage the MAFIA to use an off-site message board for communication.


Instead of PMs to me, you can go by e-mails to me, just indicate your site handle so they do not get deleted out.



rbishop1@nc.rr.com

[Dwarf Puffers]

Argh, innocent again :silly:

[MikenDanielle]

Me too, Dang it!

[IceH2O]

Rb may I say something about the Snitch. I don't really think that will work that well.

The "Snitch". One of the Mafia is a Snitch. Since their cousin Vinny was ousted by the Mafia last year, they feel some revenge is needed. The Snitch does not reveal his identity to anybody, not even the Don, except by me upon their death. The Snitch will PM me a list of 4 names, their choosing, whenever I ask. At least one member of this list will be a Mafia member.These names will be worked into the night time story line. Innocents do not want to kill the snitch too early, and the Mafia want him gone quickly...maybe, depends on their plans.

I think it would be better as a note that is only found upon their death. They PM you nightly with this list which contains the 4 names of which 1 is mafia. Then the townies have a 1 in 4 chance at getting a mafia player. If its far enough into the game the list may even be able to name innocent power roles forcing them out to protect themselves.

I think putting the name into the night time story line is a big mistake as the Snitch could switch names around and end up naming multiple mafia members according to how the suspicion is on those people.

[IceH2O]

DP and Mike..

Have you guys not followed any of the games?

Those statements have already put you on the chopping block.

[MikenDanielle]

Obviously we wouldn't be telling the truth... or would we?? Or would we not?? I think I have said too much.

[Hooked Newbie]

I'm not gonna proclaim my innocence, it will be figured out eventually with my actions or my death. Mike- only the mafia need a "tactic". The rest of us need information to go on to weed them out.

[plantling]

I think the snitch would work if he were only to do it two or three times.
And he could as likely repeat a Mafia name as he could a townie he doesn't like. Just a thought.

[Rbishop]

Uhhhh...GAME ON!

First nightfall will be about 5 AM EST Tuesday, July 23rd

[IceH2O]

People look at those type of tactics as covers. Don't be surprised to find a lot of your names in bold

[IceH2O]

lol Rb did we jump the gun a little?

[IceH2O]

I think after reading the post a couple of times I understand all the names on the list will be used in the night story. I guess that will work.

[plantling]

OOPS! Sorry. And go back and read Mafia 4 those of you proclaiming innocence already.

[Cory Lover]

CL enters the game (and this time I don't have to say "After his embarrasing fall" lol).

Mike, just a tip, don't say your innocent right off the bat lol or you'll be toast. Go to Mafia Game #4 and see what happened when a player did that, a dumb player then, aka me lol

CL

[OgreMkV]

you know, with all of us telling him not to... he still does... mafia reverse psychology?

[MikenDanielle]

Every action has an equal and opposite reaction ;)

[charlie_stubbs]

Argh, innocent again :silly:
Yeeeeeeee Hawwwwwww we're off to a good start!!!! Fetch my rope theres a gonna be a lynchin'

[Dwarf Puffers]

DP and Mike..

Have you guys not followed any of the games?

Those statements have already put you on the chopping block.


Yeeeeeeee Hawwwwwww we're off to a good start!!!! Fetch my rope theres a gonna be a lynchin'

Notice in the previous games I've been an innocent I've said similar things, and I was always an innocent. :silly:

[MikenDanielle]

Dwarf Puffers just PM'ed me and asked me when we get our PM's from RBishop?? Didn;t you guys get yours already?? I know I got mine.

[Swayde]

*Swayde moves into a small house on the outskirts of town. She takes time to set up and tend to a garden with a pond and a full stock of lovely fancy goldfish. She makes a pitcher of lemonade and relaxes in the warm sun.*

[MikenDanielle]

*Mike grabs a book to read, probably 'The Art of War' by Sun Tzu, he then grabs a beer and relaxes, this is going to be a long game.

[Dwarf Puffers]

Dwarf Puffers just PM'ed me and asked me when we get our PM's from RBishop?? Didn;t you guys get yours already?? I know I got mine.

Wtf? I didn't PM you... You sure it wasn't someone else?

[OgreMkV]

I would suggest "The Prince". As much as I like Sun Tzu... Machiavelli is more appropriate.

[nickmcmechan]

should i be worried to leave the house with all those mafia around?

[Dangerdoll]

Wtf? I didn't PM you... You sure it wasn't someone else?
:rolleyes:

[Rbishop]

game off...

I PM'd everybody...it is my magnetic personality at work....

game on...

[nickmcmechan]

i'm not used to est....what time is it right now...its 11pm here

[IceH2O]

LOL



Okay now if they are mafia we have 2 easy targets. If they aren't we just took out 2 townies. We need to decide if we're prepared to do that. Jo was innocent and did the same but even after being told that was a bad plan Mike did it anyway. Then DP tries to say "Notice in the previous games I've been an innocent I've said similar things, and I was always an innocent".

Sounds like good reasoning to me how about you guys. NOT. Its exactly what a bad mafia player would do IMO.

Its to early and I'm not starting a train, like I said Jo was innocent and the Mafia haven't had time to get together to make a plan to set this up. Just saying watch these guys.

[charlie_stubbs]

Dwarf Puffers just PM'ed me and asked me when we get our PM's from RBishop?? Didn;t you guys get yours already?? I know I got mine.
:iagree:

[nickmcmechan]

LOL



Okay now if they are mafia we have 2 easy targets. If they aren't we just took out 2 townies. We need to decide if we're prepared to do that. Jo was innocent and did the same but even after being told that was a bad plan Mike did it anyway. Then DP tries to say "Notice in the previous games I've been an innocent I've said similar things, and I was always an innocent".

Sounds like good reasoning to me how about you guys. NOT. Its exactly what a bad mafia player would do IMO.

Its to early and I'm not starting a train, like I said Jo was innocent and the Mafia haven't had time to get together to make a plan to set this up. Just saying watch these guys.
i think i'll be keeping a close eye on you...too quick to accuse

'methinks he proteth too much'

[charlie_stubbs]

i think we have a lynch winner right here!!!

[Hooked Newbie]

Ok... first "conspiracy theory".... Mike and DP seem to be rather "curious". Considering a total lack of information thus far and the fact that day one is pretty random. One or both of them are at the top of my list.

Please be aware that PMs are no longer allowed, unless you're both mafia.

[Swayde]

i'm not used to est....what time is it right now...its 11pm here


6pm EST

[MikenDanielle]

:iagree:

You mean he PM'ed you too?? I think something is up there. IMO. That and him saying what he did the other times, I 100% gaurentee he is getting my vote.

[Hooked Newbie]

You mean he PM'ed you too?? I think something is up there. IMO. That and him saying what he did the other times, I 100% gaurentee he is getting my vote.

A little early to be 100% on anything IMO. We have almost 35 hours left in this day. Why so quick to make a decision unless you already know what DP is?

[MikenDanielle]

Im just going on him PM'ing people which is weird... and also the thigns he said. If he was just a townsperson why would he make such a big deal of thigns.

[IceH2O]

I'm thinking we found 2 and they are the ones picking on DP right now.

We'll see how they react after the mafia gets a chance to get together and make a plan. I'm guessing it will be different.

[MikenDanielle]

Geeze, IceH20, soudns liek your trying really hard to distance yourself form the mafia... maybe I should change my vote to you?

[OgreMkV]

Guys, remember that the town is mostly innocent. If we have a good mafia team, then none of them have posted yet. If we have some newbie mafia, then they probably have posted.

I won't be deciding on anything for quite a while. Day one is always almost random... we've said it before and we'll say it again.

I want to hear from everyone before even thinking about who is mafia. You can hardly ever tell anything from one or two posts. Even I can keep my story straight that long. It's when you take today and tomorrow and the next (game) day that you discover mafia.

Just relax and post your thoughts, but keep in mind that 2/3s of the town is innocent. 7 mafia though... geez. rb I suggested you up them some, but not that much.

[mee-mee]

Argh, innocent again :silly:
And how do we know you aren't just saying that...


Me too, Dang it!
Way too eager,


DP and Mike..

Have you guys not followed any of the games?

Those statements have already put you on the chopping block.
Ditto...


Obviously we wouldn't be telling the truth... or would we?? Or would we not?? I think I have said too much.
That is how people start assuming you are on the bad side of the game...


you know, with all of us telling him not to... he still does... mafia reverse psychology?
I think it could be...


Every action has an equal and opposite reaction ;)
Not necessarily...


Dwarf Puffers just PM'ed me and asked me when we get our PM's from RBishop?? Didn;t you guys get yours already?? I know I got mine.

If ever in doubt on something, always ALWAYS pm the GM....never PM a Townie member....

[MikenDanielle]

unless something seriously altering comes up my votes rests with iceh20. I do agree that a smart mafia would not post this early before coming up withaa place. Which I would think either they have met super early, maybe we told before everyone else their roles and have set IceH2 to infiltrate, or they have not met at all, and iceh20 is just eager to sneakly claim his innocence.

[Hooked Newbie]

I'm thinking we found 2 and they are the ones picking on DP right now.

We'll see how they react after the mafia gets a chance to get together and make a plan. I'm guessing it will be different.

Interesting statement Ice. As far as I can see, no one was "picking" on DP. I did question Mike though. Are you reading out of context or tryin to start a train of thought?

[Coler]

1) I'm innocent
2) no way will I be on the thread as much as last game (work)
3) I'll still do my best, obviously
4) come and get me mafia; this will save the town much trouble as they work out whether or not to believe me.
5) DP and Mikendanielle would be at the top of my list right now...Hooked Newbie would be in or around it as well.
6) so what its just day one

[charlie_stubbs]

seems like mike is too excited about being mafia to hold his tongue!!! are you trying to start a lynch train already mike? your posts are very sucpicious and you are now my prime (and only) suspect at this point

[MikenDanielle]

I hope I end up on the top of everyone's suspicious list... that way people will throughly analyze me and see for a fact that my stries are all legit and therefore can't possibly be a mafiaso.

[nickmcmechan]

i'm wondering now if mike and ice are mafia now....

[OgreMkV]

unless something seriously altering comes up my votes rests with iceh20. I do agree that a smart mafia would not post this early before coming up withaa place. Which I would think either they have met super early, maybe we told before everyone else their roles and have set IceH2 to infiltrate, or they have not met at all, and iceh20 is just eager to sneakly claim his innocence.

Hey Mike, your Freudian Slip is showing... ;)

Yeah, this looks either mafia or waaaay too obvious.

[MikenDanielle]

was supposed to read "Maybe they we're told before everyone else"

Me and the 5 beer I have had apologize for the typos.

[clown-lover]

Mark crawls out of his grave and gives his head stone a quick kick toppling it over.. Enough of that he thinks to himself. His joints are stiff and his cloths reek of dirt and mold. He dusts off his jeans and shirt and he slowly makes his way out of the graveyard...

After a quick checkup and an OK sign from the Doc he makes a quick trip to his Hardware Store just to make sure everything is OK.. While walking through the town he notices that there are several new residents that have recently moved in, he makes a mental note to send them a Welcome Wagon basket and a copy of the ACVille Rag..

As he approaches the store his heart sinks in his chest.. The door is open and the whole shop is in a disarray.. Guess people were busy while he was down for the long count. Guess he will find out what happened when he reads his back copies of the ACVille Rag.

[Coler]

Hey Mike, your Freudian Slip is showing... ;)

Yeah, this looks either mafia or waaaay too obvious.

agreed...I'm kinda set to vote around now; early votes=reactions=information, however I don't know if the town would rather talk it over a bit

[clown-lover]

Guys, remember that the town is mostly innocent. If we have a good mafia team, then none of them have posted yet. If we have some newbie mafia, then they probably have posted.

I won't be deciding on anything for quite a while. Day one is always almost random... we've said it before and we'll say it again.

I want to hear from everyone before even thinking about who is mafia. You can hardly ever tell anything from one or two posts. Even I can keep my story straight that long. It's when you take today and tomorrow and the next (game) day that you discover mafia.

Just relax and post your thoughts, but keep in mind that 2/3s of the town is innocent. 7 mafia though... geez. rb I suggested you up them some, but not that much.

Excellent post Ogre.. Nice observations and overall thinking.

[MikenDanielle]

Vote me if you want, but you will sadly find out you are only doing away with on of your own. PS. what is with the odd Thrird Person intriductions such as clown-lovers? Seems fishy to me.

[clown-lover]

2) no way will I be on the thread as much as last game (work)


Coler.. How does work exactly affect your play? Aren't you like Greenwich Time or close?

[MikenDanielle]

Coler.. How does work exactly affect your play? Aren't you like Greenwich Time or close?

Maybe he is worried his posting will incri,minate him in his new role of mafia member?? Just a thought.

[clown-lover]

Vote me if you want, but you will sadly find out you are only doing away with on of your own. PS. what is with the odd Thrird Person intriductions such as clown-lovers? Seems fishy to me.

Its called Roll Play... Wow.. Did you read the last game.. Two others have done it already..

[IceH2O]

Maybe a little of both.

The way I read it they are both trying to make it look like DP is sending PMs. Truthfully I don't see why they would say it was to them though.

I just want people to watch what people are saying and I just am trying to not let it get lost in the shuffle.

[ZSandmann]

Sandy steps out of his house for a new look at ACville. Things really shift around in this town. Some of his favorite neighbors now keep their curtains tightly shut while some of the wiley ones walk their miniature poodles around the block. Hard living in such an uncertain place as this but once you love a town like Sandy loves ACville its hard to leave.

Miken you've got my senses all tingley. Day 1 is a really random vote as we feel out the players. So far in all the AC games we've never bagged a Mafia on Night 1. Maybe you'll be the first? You've already used your "I'm Innocent" card and I see you just threw in the "If You Vote For Me You'll Be Sorry" card. Ouch.

[IceH2O]

Mark crawls out of his grave and gives his head stone a quick kick toppling it over.. Enough of that he thinks to himself. His joints are stiff and his cloths reek of dirt and mold. He dusts off his jeans and shirt and he slowly makes his way out of the graveyard...

After a quick checkup and an OK sign from the Doc he makes a quick trip to his Hardware Store just to make sure everything is OK.. While walking through the town he notices that there are several new residents that have recently moved in, he makes a mental note to send them a Welcome Wagon basket and a copy of the ACVille Rag..

As he approaches the store his heart sinks in his chest.. The door is open and the whole shop is in a disarray.. Guess people were busy while he was down for the long count. Guess he will find out what happened when he reads his back copies of the ACVille Rag.

LMAO possible zombie mafia! jk

[mee-mee]

Mee Mee opens up her Pastry shop for the day, and goes out back to make sure that shed she has behind the shop has a secure padlock on it, so Cousin Pete doesn't try to sneak in at night and sleep, but if he tries, her trusty watchdog, the chihuahua, will stop him dead in his tracks. And he will then think twice of sleeping in her shed. Since he did acquire money for working at the Coffee shop sometime back, and now he can pay for his own room and board at the local B and B...go stay in a clean bed cousin Pete...:)

[clown-lover]

I also have a question.. or observation why would DP send a PM when he was one of the first ones to say.. I'm an innocent?? He wouldn't know what his role was until he received his PM. Not?

[ZSandmann]

15/24 players have posted by my count. We're off to an early start.

[MikenDanielle]

Well.. do what you must but if I get the majority of your vote you will again, not take a mafia outt he first night. If i were you, I would keep me around atleast until day 2... or heck even till the end... if you are that sure I am definetly a mafia, why not save me until the end so you have an easy vote to take that 1 last person out. I myself am looking for the non obvious people, the people that are keeping in the shadows and not saying much at all. Theya re the ones who are suspicious to me... them and the ones trying to lynch me of course.

[clown-lover]

LMAO possible zombie mafia! jk

I just had to do it... I've been thinking up my first day roll play since you guys knocked me off last game.. :lipssealedsmilie:

[Hooked Newbie]

agreed...I'm kinda set to vote around now; early votes=reactions=information, however I don't know if the town would rather talk it over a bit

I agree with the early voting, though it will proably get me snuffed out early again... I think the exuberance of Mike and the "slip" (here we go again!) is telling. I think it's more telling possibly about Ice though.

I vote to lynch IceH2O.

[IceH2O]

I also have a question.. or observation why would DP send a PM when he was one of the first ones to say.. I'm an innocent?? He wouldn't know what his role was until he received his PM. Not?

The only reason he would send a PM would be if he already knew he was Mafia and was trying to get in touch with his other mafia players. That was the 1st thing I did when I was Don last game.

[ZSandmann]

I also have a question.. or observation why would DP send a PM when he was one of the first ones to say.. I'm an innocent?? He wouldn't know what his role was until he received his PM. Not?

Correct cl#2. If he knew he was Innocent he would have gotten a PM. So I'm very confused by Miken's claim. There should be no PMing going on by players except to rb. Miken you are now a 3 on my list, which is bad as everyone else is a 5.

[MikenDanielle]

I was waiting for someone to vote. Ice's tells are way to obvious to be purposful. Trying to take a lead of the innocents right off the bat it a tellt ale sing inmho.


I vote to lynch IceH2O

[charlie_stubbs]

You mean he PM'ed you too?? I think something is up there. IMO. That and him saying what he did the other times, I 100% gaurentee he is getting my vote.
Dwarf puffer never pm'ed me, i was agreeing with ice's post that you should be watched

[ZSandmann]

Well.. do what you must but if I get the majority of your vote you will again, not take a mafia outt he first night. If i were you, I would keep me around atleast until day 2... or heck even till the end... if you are that sure I am definetly a mafia, why not save me until the end so you have an easy vote to take that 1 last person out. I myself am looking for the non obvious people, the people that are keeping in the shadows and not saying much at all. Theya re the ones who are suspicious to me... them and the ones trying to lynch me of course.

What foul reasoning is this? Did you just admit you're Mafia and we should keep you around because we know what you are? I think you need to go talk to your Don before you did a deeper hole.

[MikenDanielle]

What foul reasoning is this? Did you just admit you're Mafia and we should keep you around because we know what you are? I think you need to go talk to your Don before you did a deeper hole.

I agree this is my first venture in this game so I may not have great logic. But to me... if I knew someone was 100% a mafia, I would save them until a little later when I absolutely needed a mafia out. But then again, I am voting for IceH20 and I am 99.5% positive he is a mafia so I don't know.

Regardless do what you must.

[ZSandmann]

I vote to lynch MikenDanielle.

[MikenDanielle]

What foul reasoning is this? Did you just admit you're Mafia and we should keep you around because we know what you are? I think you need to go talk to your Don before you did a deeper hole.


PS. I would glady talk to the Don, can you tell me who he is?

[IceH2O]

Good choice Hooked, get the ones that are more likely to point out mafia players lynched so its not so hard to sneak around and lynch the innocents and cause confusion. I applaud your guys plans.

I didn't think I was that much of a threat, there are others I thought better then me at this game, but I think the fact that I had guys that thought me mafia last game get all turned around and thinking I was innocent made you think I am just that **** good.

Lynch me and you get what you want, 1 less innocent to lead the others innocents to victory.

[ZSandmann]

PS. I would glady talk to the Don, can you tell me who he is?

Nope but I bet if you check your pm from rb it will say Mafia man.

[Coler]

Coler.. How does work exactly affect your play? Aren't you like Greenwich Time or close?

Work affects me on the basis that I will be busy this week, so not on the forum as much, unlike last game



Maybe he is worried his posting will incri,minate him in his new role of mafia member?? Just a thought.

oh come on...this guy wants to be lynched !!

[MikenDanielle]

Good choice Hooked, get the ones that are more likely to point out mafia players lynched so its not so hard to sneak around and lynch the innocents and cause confusion. I applaud your guys plans.

I didn't think I was that much of a threat, there are others I thought better then me at this game, but I think the fact that I had guys that thought me mafia last game get all turned around and thinking I was innocent made you think I am just that **** good.

Lynch me and you get what you want, 1 less innocent to lead the others innocents to victory.


This is one of the most desperate claims of innocence I have ever heard... which almost makes it seems real. I wish you would have posted this before I voted for you, now I am unsure.

[IceH2O]

LOL Z, I think these guys are running around with their heads cut off too. There hasn't been time for them to get together and make any type of plan.

I'm not really sure just yet if Mike is overzealous or just a confused newbie but my eye will stay on them.

For now my vote will also be on him until something else changes my mind. We have a long time to sort this out and my vote is only out there to help the discussion along.

I vote to lynch MikenDanielle

[MikenDanielle]

Looks like we both have 2 votes Ice... I guess we are the leaders of the suspicious lists... now all everyone has to do is go back through our pots, read all very closely and decide who seems more suspicious.

[clown-lover]

Work affects me on the basis that I will be busy this week, so not on the forum as much, unlike last game

Ok just wondering.. I wasn't sure what exact time zone..


oh come on...this guy wants to be lynched !!

That is exactly what I was thinking.. I think he's done every newbie mistake within the first couple of hours of the game.

[Hooked Newbie]

Good choice Hooked, get the ones that are more likely to point out mafia players lynched so its not so hard to sneak around and lynch the innocents and cause confusion. I applaud your guys plans.

I didn't think I was that much of a threat, there are others I thought better then me at this game, but I think the fact that I had guys that thought me mafia last game get all turned around and thinking I was innocent made you think I am just that **** good.

Lynch me and you get what you want, 1 less innocent to lead the others innocents to victory.

It's early and I was looking for reaction, thanks for giving one that is quite reminiscent of one I received last game. I definitely reserve the right to change my vote since it's early, but I'm not going to yet. If you're "more likely" to point out mafia members, please do so since I suspect that you may know them.

[Coler]

These posts are very stupid or very mafia :

After DP says he is innocent 'again' :


Me too, Dang it!

p.s Mike you can't be innocent again, you havn't played yet :D


Obviously we wouldn't be telling the truth... or would we?? Or would we not?? I think I have said too much.


Dwarf Puffers just PM'ed me and asked me when we get our PM's from RBishop?? Didn;t you guys get yours already?? I know I got mine.


You mean he PM'ed you too?? I think something is up there. IMO. That and him saying what he did the other times, I 100% gaurentee he is getting my vote.

Why is Mike 100% going to vote DP ?


Im just going on him PM'ing people which is weird... and also the thigns he said. If he was just a townsperson why would he make such a big deal of thigns.

^ *ahem* pardon me while I reattach my a** which has just been laughed off

I don't know what to make of DP's posts below...nothing as of yet I guess


Notice in the previous games I've been an innocent I've said similar things, and I was always an innocent. :silly:


Wtf? I didn't PM you... You sure it wasn't someone else?

Back to Ice/Mike. This here below 'sounds' like a fake row to me (Ice's post and Mike's response) :

Ice :
I'm thinking we found 2 and they are the ones picking on DP right now.

We'll see how they react after the mafia gets a chance to get together and make a plan. I'm guessing it will be different.

Mike's response :
Geeze, IceH20, soudns liek your trying really hard to distance yourself form the mafia... maybe I should change my vote to you?

Mike again; note he was 100% sure about DP and now is 'voting' for ice...but has yet to in fact vote :


unless something seriously altering comes up my votes rests with iceh20. I do agree that a smart mafia would not post this early before coming up withaa place. Which I would think either they have met super early, maybe we told before everyone else their roles and have set IceH2 to infiltrate, or they have not met at all, and iceh20 is just eager to sneakly claim his innocence.

This below is Mike's third attempt to cast suspicion on someone. Guys, a townie simply would not do this (although the exception will always prove the rule *sigh*)


Vote me if you want, but you will sadly find out you are only doing away with on of your own. PS. what is with the odd Thrird Person intriductions such as clown-lovers? Seems fishy to me.

Fourth attempt below :


Maybe he is worried his posting will incri,minate him in his new role of mafia member?? Just a thought.

Finally a vote ! yay ! and its for ice !! hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...


I was waiting for someone to vote. Ice's tells are way to obvious to be purposful. Trying to take a lead of the innocents right off the bat it a tellt ale sing inmho.


I vote to lynch IceH2O

nonsense logic below : I am all tingly about ice now though - that fake row I posted above :


I agree this is my first venture in this game so I may not have great logic. But to me... if I knew someone was 100% a mafia, I would save them until a little later when I absolutely needed a mafia out. But then again, I am voting for IceH20 and I am 99.5% positive he is a mafia so I don't know.

Regardless do what you must.

Mike is now tragically unsure :


This is one of the most desperate claims of innocence I have ever heard... which almost makes it seems real. I wish you would have posted this before I voted for you, now I am unsure.

I've just done what Mike suggests below :


Looks like we both have 2 votes Ice... I guess we are the leaders of the suspicious lists... now all everyone has to do is go back through our pots, read all very closely and decide who seems more suspicious.

conclusion : you both reek of mafia

whatcha think townies ?

[mee-mee]

We just have to remember that this is exactly how the last game started.....one newbie member and the other who already played game 4 and 5, the newbies were really excited about playing the Mafia game and we all got on the bandwagon for quite some time, so we really need to be careful...I know I am not going to try and jump to conclusions this game as I did last game...:)

[Hooked Newbie]

My thoughts so far are that perhaps a "plan" was made to pit two mafia against themselves and that maybe a new player's excitement led to some posts that hurt them. I am suspect of both Ice and Mike, though DP has gotten very quiet. Another note is that there have been many people monitoring the thread everytime I've looked and as far as I can tell, only Swayde has yet to post even though they've been watching for over an hour...

[KingOfTheDeep]

this is going to be a LONG game..i may not be able to post much this game...i have a very busy schedule for the next 2 weeks..

people im watching

mikendanielle - no explanation needed

Ice - a very good player that should be watched until he is a proven innocent

coler - same as ice..

[Swayde]

My thoughts so far are that perhaps a "plan" was made to pit two mafia against themselves and that maybe a new player's excitement led to some posts that hurt them. I am suspect of both Ice and Mike, though DP has gotten very quiet. Another note is that there have been many people monitoring the thread everytime I've looked and as far as I can tell, only Swayde has yet to post even though they've been watching for over an hour...

I did post. I am just relaxing and enjoying my lemonade and my lovely gold fishies as I hear of the local gossip from my neighbors. It's all so intrigueing so far!

[clown-lover]

Personally I am more concerned about that it shows current active users at 14 but there is only 11 names showing... Can we assume that there are people in invisible mode?

Hooked - there were a couple of posts by Swade..

[MikenDanielle]

this is going to be a LONG game..i may not be able to post much this game...i have a very busy schedule for the next 2 weeks..

Ok... thats two people now who have said they can't post much because of work.... I am honestly starting to think that is the mafias plan, have people make up legitimate alibi's to not be able to post much, therefore limiting the exposure of their words and possible slip ups. I know I may be stupid for posting thsi early and possibly making them cause a stop to it... but if we take a chance and vote one of them out, and they turn out to be mod, I would almost gaurentee the other would too.

[Coler]

this is going to be a LONG game..i may not be able to post much this game...i have a very busy schedule for the next 2 weeks..

people im watching

mikendanielle - no explanation needed

Ice - a very good player that should be watched until he is a proven innocent

coler - same as ice..

re-me :

meh...investigate the behind out of me, it will come up innocent as the last game and may be therefore a waste of time, but I am truly happy to be scrutinised.

I don't think I will be let hang around long by the mafia - night one hit last time out, saved by a botched hit.

[plantling]

It's quite early in the game yet to be sure who's who, but I am also thinking along the lines that some "planted" episodes have occurred.

[KingOfTheDeep]

Personally I am more concerned about that it shows current active users at 14 but there is only 11 names showing... Can we assume that there are people in invisible mode?

Hooked - there were a couple of posts by Swade..

great observation there..hmm

[mee-mee]

Personally I am more concerned about that it shows current active users at 14 but there is only 11 names showing... Can we assume that there are people in invisible mode?

Hooked - there were a couple of posts by Swade..


The only we cant see people is if they watch as guests...

[Coler]

Ok... thats two people now who have said they can't post much because of work.... I am honestly starting to think that is the mafias plan, have people make up legitimate alibi's to not be able to post much, therefore limiting the exposure of their words and possible slip ups. I know I may be stupid for posting thsi early and possibly making them cause a stop to it... but if we take a chance and vote one of them out, and they turn out to be mod, I would almost gaurentee the other would too.

whatever about KOTD I guarantee my innocence. so your theory sucks.

[KingOfTheDeep]

Ok... thats two people now who have said they can't post much because of work.... I am honestly starting to think that is the mafias plan, have people make up legitimate alibi's to not be able to post much, therefore limiting the exposure of their words and possible slip ups. I know I may be stupid for posting thsi early and possibly making them cause a stop to it... but if we take a chance and vote one of them out, and they turn out to be mod, I would almost gaurentee the other would too.

think what you want :)

[mee-mee]

Personally I am more concerned about that it shows current active users at 14 but there is only 11 names showing... Can we assume that there are people in invisible mode?

Hooked - there were a couple of posts by Swade..

But I do see what you are saying, 14 members and only 11 people at the bottom of the page...

[KingOfTheDeep]

The only we cant see people is if they watch as guests...

it doesnt show them as guests...it says ACTIVE USERS

[clown-lover]

The only we cant see people is if they watch as guests...

So what led you to believe that.. I have two hobby websites that run different forum software, but invisible is invisible.. The person who is invisible will still see themselves, but no one else will...

[KingOfTheDeep]

like..there are 15 people that show up as active users..and 0 as guests...but i count 12 names..

maybe the mafia used the invisable mode so townies cant see if they PM..hmm

[mee-mee]

it doesnt show them as guests...it says ACTIVE USERS

Okay, I see...:)

[clown-lover]

/game off
oooppsss getting called for supper.. its 6:30 + change here and the GF made chicken with wild rice and garlic bread.. mmmmmm.. Be back in a while.

[MikenDanielle]

maybe it will only show a max of 12?? Have you tried refreshing a few times to see if it randomly picks a different 12 each time or if it is constantly the same 12.

[KingOfTheDeep]

maybe it will only show a max of 12?? Have you tried refreshing a few times to see if it randomly picks a different 12 each time or if it is constantly the same 12.

same 12

[MikenDanielle]

I just realised what a daunting task it is going to be tomorrow to come and read all the posts I miss while sleeping and being at school. Grrrrrh

[KingOfTheDeep]

right now it says "current active users viewing this thread : 11"
(11 users and 0 guests)

but i count 9 names..very fishy

any way to find out who these people are?

[Cory Lover]

I'm so tempted to vote for Miken, seems so much like a Mafia I can smell it. If he is a Mafia, he is very inexperienced one and seems quite intense for my liking. I'm not voting yet, I'll probably vote tomorrow.

CL

[Hooked Newbie]

I'm so tempted to vote for Miken, seems so much like a Mafia I can smell it. If he is a Mafia, he is very inexperienced one and seems quite intense for my liking. I'm not voting yet, I'll probably vote tomorrow.

CL

Hey Mike, the pot just called you (the kettle) black... lol

[Hooked Newbie]

Personally I am more concerned about that it shows current active users at 14 but there is only 11 names showing... Can we assume that there are people in invisible mode?

Hooked - there were a couple of posts by Swade..

I missed the role play posts, that was my bad.

[IceH2O]

We used invisible all the time last game and never used the PMs. Its easier to watch and not be watched.

I need to learn to not be so gung ho, got me kicked from Game 4 when I was Detective lol.

Tell you what, Det or Mayor investigate me,if you find me mafia then wait for a train to start and help stoke the fire. Don't want you to come right out and say it and give away your positions.
If you see I'm mafia then by all means lynch me.

But when you see I'm innocent my name will be cleared and the only ones gunning for me should be mafia. You don't even have to come out and say I'm innocent either just don't jump on the train and go after the real mafia suspects.

[charlie_stubbs]

My thoughts so far are that perhaps a "plan" was made to pit two mafia against themselves and that maybe a new player's excitement led to some posts that hurt them. I am suspect of both Ice and Mike, though DP has gotten very quiet. Another note is that there have been many people monitoring the thread everytime I've looked and as far as I can tell, only Swayde has yet to post even though they've been watching for over an hour...

i agree with this. i think mike and ice's exchange was a mafia ploy that went awry. i am highly suspect of them both at this point, and am also wondering why dwarf puffer has gone silent. if we are right i think ice is the more experienced of the two and is a bigger threat (just a thought) so i probably will vote for him, im gonna wait and see how he responds.

[ZSandmann]

I'm not reading the grandiose conspiracy theories just yet but I am watching the banter closely. Still a lot of quiet ones out there and with about 30% of the Town Mafia this is going to be a very interesting round.

16/24 players have spoken

Current Votes:
IceH2O: 2 -Hooked Newbie (69) MikenDanielle (72)
MikenDanielle: 2 – Zsandmann (76) IceH2O (82)

[MikenDanielle]

[quote=charlie_stubbs;1000634]and am also wondering why dwarf puffer has gone silent. quote]

I am guessing DP went silent because he didn't think Id go public on him, then I did and now he feels screwed.

[Coler]

[quote=charlie_stubbs;1000634]and am also wondering why dwarf puffer has gone silent. quote]

I am guessing DP went silent because he didn't think Id go public on him, then I did and now he feels screwed.

right so...he feels 'screwed' because 'you went public on him' = I presume outing him as a mafia.

so there are two possibilities :

1. DP did PM you about roles, which meant your mafia roles as assigned by the don, which means you're both mafia
2. DP did not PM you but you're saying he did in order to have him lynched...which makes you mafia...

...show me the flaw in this logic and I'll consider not voting for you.

[FireDancer7905]

Wowzers! 12 posts, and I've only been out for a few hours! Well, so far I think Mike is looking pretty shady, but in the last game I thought the same about another newb, and got myself into trouble for it. I'm not getting a real read on anybody right now.
Let's go townies!!!
~brandy

[Hooked Newbie]

I'm not reading the grandiose conspiracy theories just yet but I am watching the banter closely. Still a lot of quiet ones out there and with about 30% of the Town Mafia this is going to be a very interesting round.

16/24 players have spoken

Current Votes:
IceH2O: 2 -Hooked Newbie (69) MikenDanielle (72)
MikenDanielle: 2 – Zsandmann (76) IceH2O (82)

Z- thanks for the observations! Would you happen to have a list of those yet to post? That list may warrant attention and discussion given the talk of invisibility earlier.

[Swayde]

*Swayde grabs her pitcher of lemonade and heads indoors to watch a movie or two.*

[clown-lover]

Here is a list of those yet to post.. Anyone correct me if I have made a mistake.

bkw1982
JoAnder123
JohnLarson66
jPappy789
JudgeMax
MadCrawDad
Sploke

Point to note I also saw joander lurking for a while.. But that doesn't mean he isn't gun shy after last round.

[MikenDanielle]

[quote=MikenDanielle;1000654]

right so...he feels 'screwed' because 'you went public on him' = I presume outing him as a mafia.

so there are two possibilities :

1. DP did PM you about roles, which meant your mafia roles as assigned by the don, which means you're both mafia
2. DP did not PM you but you're saying he did in order to have him lynched...which makes you mafia...

...show me the flaw in this logic and I'll consider not voting for you.


3. I said it to make you think, if I wanted him lynched I would have voted for him but I voted for iceh2o.... that sounds like a major flaw to me.

Defeat the enemy from within - Sun Tzu - The Art of War

[Coler]

Thanks

I vote to lynch Mikendanielle

[clown-lover]

Coler - I have to agree with your vote..

I vote to lynch Mikendanielle

[charlie_stubbs]

well im not 100% sure about ice, but i am about you mike. if we bag a mafia on the first night is that a record???
I vote to lynch Mikendanielle

[Coler]

Thanks

I vote to lynch Mikendanielle

all subject to developments of course.


choo-choo...is that the lynch train starting up ?

[clown-lover]

So far I have 17/24 players have posted
7/24 have voted

IceH20 (2) - Hooked (69), Mikendanielle (72)
Mikendanielle (5) - zSand(76), IceH20(82), Coler(122), Clown(123), charlie(124)

[clown-lover]

all subject to developments of course.


choo-choo...is that the lynch train starting up ?

Agreed with the possible developments, as far as the train goes.. He is setting off either

1) Newbie Alarms
2) Mafia Alarms

I'm not going to go through and re-iterate what you have already posted, and as of this point, the case you have made really has me questioning him based on the information at hand.

[Hooked Newbie]

Folks, I do not disagree with the take on Mike at all, but please look at Ice. He has definitely raised my suspicions and would be the more dangerous of the 2 if they are both mafia. If we have 2 of them at this point, we're off to a great start.

CL & Charlie give me pause with their willingness to jump so quickly without posting their reasoning. Coler was a proven innocent last game and seems to be playing innocent this game, but the first day should be filled with suspicion and not following. IMO, the following would be another way for mafia to lay low.

[clown-lover]

Hooked.. Build a case since you think he is guilty. If you have evidence to support it I am an open minded individual and will consider the facts. At this point I have more alarms from Mike.

[IceH2O]

3. I said it to make you think, if I wanted him lynched I would have voted for him but I voted for iceh2o.... that sounds like a major flaw to me.

Defeat the enemy from within - Sun Tzu - The Art of War

You only voted me because Hooked did. You needed to plant the suspicion and see if anyone bit. You were 100% sure DP was mafia but voted for me because someone else did.

You started a train but forgot to set the brake, now its running over the top of you.

Again I say to the townies to investigate me, whats one more day? If I'm mafia you got me, if I'm innocent then no reason to vote me unless you are mafia.

Dr. Spock once wrote, "Parenting is about choices and deciding what's best for your child." It also can be reworded to say "Protecting is about choices and whats best for your town".

[Hooked Newbie]

Hooked.. Build a case since you think he is guilty. If you have evidence to support it I am an open minded individual and will consider the facts. At this point I have more alarms from Mike.

Read my posts and make up your own mind. I'm not necessarily "building a case" as I am attempting to stop a train. If we have a totally lopsided vote, people will tend to focus a bit too much and not look for the next mafia.... We have 7 to find this game. What were your reasons, your case? As far as I read, you just agreed with Coler and threw the vote in.

[Hooked Newbie]

You only voted me because Hooked did. You needed to plant the suspicion and see if anyone bit. You were 100% sure DP was mafia but voted for me because someone else did.

You started a train but forgot to set the brake, now its running over the top of you.

Again I say to the townies to investigate me, whats one more day? If I'm mafia you got me, if I'm innocent then no reason to vote me unless you are mafia.

Dr. Spock once wrote, "Parenting is about choices and deciding what's best for your child." It also can be reworded to say "Protecting is about choices and whats best for your town".

I think that's a valid analysis although you lost me when you started quoting Dr. Spock. I'm not going to retract or change my vote yet for 2 reasons. 1) I don't want a conclusive "train" that the mafia will be able to jump on and be hidden by. 2) I am still suspicious of you as I was in the last game where you posted in a similar manner.

We do agree on one point though... Any townies with investigative abilities, please investigate Ice or myself.

[IceH2O]

To help look over posts and pull quotes for your case it makes it easier if you set your post count to 100 posts per page. That way you don't have to go back and forth among multiple pages.

Last game I set it up with 100 posts per page and only had 12 pages to read through instead of 50 pages.

[mee-mee]

If you go back and compare Mike's posts to that of Joander's posts from game 5, it seems to be on the same lines as Jo was posting, other than the PMing goof up, can anyone give me and everyone else good reason to vote for MND that havent voted for him already...the only alarms I seem to be getting vibes off of him are the Newbie Alarms...we have to remember that all new joiners really don't understand the game lines....
1. you post right away you are an Innocent, everyone will think you are Mafia...
2. Defending you are Innocent will peg you as Mafia...

So if anyone can give me alot more evidence (even between the lines), I will gladly vote for him...but if he turns out to be one of us, then we REALLY need to be careful...this is exactly what the Mafia wants...us lynching each other so they dont have to waste votes on the nonkey players of the Townies...

[IceH2O]

I think that's a valid analysis although you lost me when you started quoting Dr. Spock. I'm not going to retract or change my vote yet for 2 reasons. 1) I don't want a conclusive "train" that the mafia will be able to jump on and be hidden by. 2) I am still suspicious of you as I was in the last game where you posted in a similar manner.

We do agree on one point though... Any townies with investigative abilities, please investigate Ice or myself.

I tend to try and keep my posting the same, its one of the things we look for in this game obviously. I don't want that to be my tell all to what side I'm playing.You have to look deeper then my post style. Obviously it can't be exactly the same but I try to keep it close.

[mee-mee]

RB, does first day end Monday night at what standard time....so everyone knows what times to put their votes in...since you are eastern time, then will it be 8 pm your time and then that would make it 7pm central standard time...

[plantling]

I'm keeping an open mind as night doesn't fall until Tuesday morning. I would like to hear from all players before I cast my vote. I agree that we need to keep looking and not just concentrate on one or two Mafia candidates. There are 7 of them, afterall.

[IceH2O]

The quote should have said Protection is about choices and whats best for your town.

Simply put, to protect the town you need to make a choice, the wrong one can do more harm then good for the townies. If in doubt then look into your doubt and find the truth. The truth being I am innocent. A little hard charging but innocent none the less.

[IceH2O]

RB, does first day end Monday night at what standard time....so everyone knows what times to put their votes in...since you are eastern time, then will it be 8 pm your time and then that would make it 7pm central standard time...

Night falls Tuesday morning at 5 AM EST then every other morning at 5 AM EST.

[joander123]

hey everybody, just a quick post to say hello, did not know this game was starting again so soon, and seems like i've missed a lot. Im not nearly caught up, and dont have time to get caught up now... but lol i did see some dumb comments in the begging of it by a few people. Kind of like myself last game, although i myself wasnt a mafia last game... just didnt really know how the game went. Oh well, we'll see what happens.

[Madcrawdad]

Greetings to all...

Just finished reading through all the posts, and the main thing that I noticed is MikenDanielle's really odd gameplay.

1. Got to agree w/ Coler....the guy's pointing fingers everywhere saying that either he 'guarantees' or is '100% sure' that someone is mafia. If he really is a townie, recklessly casting suspicion on everyone else does little good for the town.

2. This business of 'even if I am mafia, keep me in the game until you need to kill a mafia for sure' doesn't make any sense to me AT ALL.

Not voting for the guy yet, but come end of the day if there's no better candidates this guy will get my vote

[Hooked Newbie]

I tend to try and keep my posting the same, its one of the things we look for in this game obviously. I don't want that to be my tell all to what side I'm playing.You have to look deeper then my post style. Obviously it can't be exactly the same but I try to keep it close.

I am looking deeper, but post styles have proven themselves as at least one point of reference. You were very quick to throw Mike out there and included me in your list after I confronted you. Just as in the last game....

[clown-lover]

Ok Hooked so here we go..

We start here with this.. Now it is just a post that really doesn't set off alarms about him other than he got a PM from DP..


Dwarf Puffers just PM'ed me and asked me when we get our PM's from RBishop?? Didn;t you guys get yours already?? I know I got mine.

Then we get this from you, but I actually disagree I think he was trying to start something otherwise why would he post it. It would be a great mafia ploy to put something like this out there and get someone else lynched simply due to the PM. Now realize there was a lot of other exchange going on about this.. I'm still thinking that both Mike and DP are mafia but DP has fallen really silent which in itself is telling.


Interesting statement Ice. As far as I can see, no one was "picking" on DP. I did question Mike though. Are you reading out of context or tryin to start a train of thought?

Then he posts this..

I hope I end up on the top of everyone's suspicious list... that way people will throughly analyze me and see for a fact that my stries are all legit and therefore can't possibly be a mafiaso.

So I have and this post is just SCREAMING mafia.. He keeps on protesting innocence.. Now he may be knew but he has been given several hints to read the last several games yet he continues down that path..


Well.. do what you must but if I get the majority of your vote you will again, not take a mafia outt he first night. If i were you, I would keep me around atleast until day 2... or heck even till the end... if you are that sure I am definetly a mafia, why not save me until the end so you have an easy vote to take that 1 last person out. I myself am looking for the non obvious people, the people that are keeping in the shadows and not saying much at all. Theya re the ones who are suspicious to me... them and the ones trying to lynch me of course.

Then he does this.. He can't make up his own mind? He had to wait for someone else to vote???


I was waiting for someone to vote. Ice's tells are way to obvious to be purposful. Trying to take a lead of the innocents right off the bat it a tellt ale sing inmho.


I vote to lynch IceH2O

How can he be?? Just because ICE was last game? As so poinently pointed out to me last game, quit dwelling on what positions people were last game and concentrate on this. While ICE might be posting strange to you, at this point I don't see it.


I agree this is my first venture in this game so I may not have great logic. But to me... if I knew someone was 100% a mafia, I would save them until a little later when I absolutely needed a mafia out. But then again, I am voting for IceH20 and I am 99.5% positive he is a mafia so I don't know.
Regardless do what you must.

Then he tries to start a train on Ogre and Coler for whom at this time I am feeling that Coler is an innocent.. Ogre I am not convinced one way or the other but this just smacks of the whole deception/attempt to change the direction/create misdirection etc.


Ok... thats two people now who have said they can't post much because of work.... I am honestly starting to think that is the mafias plan, have people make up legitimate alibi's to not be able to post much, therefore limiting the exposure of their words and possible slip ups. I know I may be stupid for posting thsi early and possibly making them cause a stop to it... but if we take a chance and vote one of them out, and they turn out to be mod, I would almost gaurentee the other would too.

I have to agree with this statment. As of this point I can't see why else he would have voted for ICE, unless you are both Mafia.


You only voted me because Hooked did. You needed to plant the suspicion and see if anyone bit. You were 100% sure DP was mafia but voted for me because someone else did.

You started a train but forgot to set the brake, now its running over the top of you.
Again I say to the townies to investigate me, whats one more day? If I'm mafia you got me, if I'm innocent then no reason to vote me unless you are mafia.

Dr. Spock once wrote, "Parenting is about choices and deciding what's best for your child." It also can be reworded to say "Protecting is about choices and whats best for your town".

So does that answer your questions as to why I have voted the way I have???

And Again I reserve the right to change my vote as others post etc.


Read my posts and make up your own mind. I'm not necessarily "building a case" as I am attempting to stop a train. If we have a totally lopsided vote, people will tend to focus a bit too much and not look for the next mafia.... We have 7 to find this game. What were your reasons, your case? As far as I read, you just agreed with Coler and threw the vote in.

[Hooked Newbie]

Ok Hooked so here we go..

We start here with this.. Now it is just a post that really doesn't set off alarms about him other than he got a PM from DP..



Then we get this from you, but I actually disagree I think he was trying to start something otherwise why would he post it. It would be a great mafia ploy to put something like this out there and get someone else lynched simply due to the PM. Now realize there was a lot of other exchange going on about this.. I'm still thinking that both Mike and DP are mafia but DP has fallen really silent which in itself is telling.



Then he posts this..


So I have and this post is just SCREAMING mafia.. He keeps on protesting innocence.. Now he may be knew but he has been given several hints to read the last several games yet he continues down that path..



Then he does this.. He can't make up his own mind? He had to wait for someone else to vote???



How can he be?? Just because ICE was last game? As so poinently pointed out to me last game, quit dwelling on what positions people were last game and concentrate on this. While ICE might be posting strange to you, at this point I don't see it.



Then he tries to start a train on Ogre and Coler for whom at this time I am feeling that Coler is an innocent.. Ogre I am not convinced one way or the other but this just smacks of the whole deception/attempt to change the direction/create misdirection etc.



I have to agree with this statment. As of this point I can't see why else he would have voted for ICE, unless you are both Mafia.



So does that answer your questions as to why I have voted the way I have???

And Again I reserve the right to change my vote as others post etc.

Cl2- I tend to agree with you actually. Mike is extremely suspect, DP is also for falling silent so quickly. Ice is because of what I see as trying to guide things and start a "train". I'm not focused on the last game, so I do suspect you as well. For your quick vote and now trying to defend your actions and others. Just as Jo did last game, Mike could have just made a new player mistake. He's near the top of my list, but right now I'm looking at those that are either trying to bolster the claims about him "suddenly" or trying to defend him. This is the first day and much can be learned by beating the bushes. If you have the power, investigate me. If you think I'm mafia, lynch me. Otherwise you'll find out what I am when I am hit.

We need to be gathering info and sharing thoughts, not all agreeing on the "best" suspect.

[IceH2O]

I am looking deeper, but post styles have proven themselves as at least one point of reference. You were very quick to throw Mike out there and included me in your list after I confronted you. Just as in the last game....

I didn't throw Mike out there any quicker then anyone else would have if they were there at the time. There are numerous posts after mine pointing out the same.

I didn't list him with you either. When i said 2 its because I thought Charlie was saying DP PMed him also.

Now this quote I do point a finger your way


Good choice Hooked, get the ones that are more likely to point out mafia players lynched so its not so hard to sneak around and lynch the innocents and cause confusion. I applaud your guys plans.

I didn't think I was that much of a threat, there are others I thought better then me at this game, but I think the fact that I had guys that thought me mafia last game get all turned around and thinking I was innocent made you think I am just that **** good.

Lynch me and you get what you want, 1 less innocent to lead the others innocents to victory.

You just seemed to be as quick with the attack as you proclaim I was.

Difference is I would rather lynch Mike who we know nothing about and be wrong then lynch you be wrong and lose a big help to the town.

[MikenDanielle]

As per the post that said I waited for someone else to vote for Ice, I didn't wait for someone else to vote necesarily for Ice, I waited for someone else to post, being a newbie I was a little insecure about when the voting was meant to begin and didn't want to end up looking like I didn't know what I was doing. I will agree I have thrown a few curveballs out, these have been strategicly done to monitor peoples reactions to them which can be very telling. I am quite to have found out I can change my vote if I choose to do so, this could come inq uite handy, albeit at this point I am still firmly setting my vote on Ice.

[clown-lover]

As per the post that said I waited for someone else to vote for Ice, I didn't wait for someone else to vote necesarily for Ice, I waited for someone else to post, being a newbie I was a little insecure about when the voting was meant to begin and didn't want to end up looking like I didn't know what I was doing. I will agree I have thrown a few curveballs out, these have been strategicly done to monitor peoples reactions to them which can be very telling. I am quite to have found out I can change my vote if I choose to do so, this could come inq uite handy, albeit at this point I am still firmly setting my vote on Ice.


If this is the case then I strongly suggest you go back and at least skim the last two games this was even suggested in the sign up thread I do believe.

[Hooked Newbie]

I didn't throw Mike out there any quicker then anyone else would have if they were there at the time. There are numerous posts after mine pointing out the same.

I didn't list him with you either. When i said 2 its because I thought Charlie was saying DP PMed him also.

Now this quote I do point a finger your way



You just seemed to be as quick with the attack as you proclaim I was.

Difference is I would rather lynch Mike who we know nothing about and be wrong then lynch you be wrong and lose a big help to the town.


Not quite sure what to make of this... I am not under the assumption that Mike (or anyone else) is innocent. To have the entire town set on him this early only helps the mafia though.

I think the key (to at least what has raised my suspicions) is your statement "There are numerous posts after mine pointing out the same.".

You are offering the folks the lessor if 2 evils, "vote for Mike cause if I'm innocent I can help more". I'm just trying to present the flipside...

Like I've said, feel free to point fingers my way. Investigate me, hit me, lynch me. It will all prove the same thing.

[clown-lover]

Well enough for tonight.. I'm off to watch some tv, drink a long island tea and go to bed... Good Night all..

[Hooked Newbie]

To take a page from other's books... I'd like to see everyone's top 3-5.

Mine are...

1. Mike
2. Ice
3. DP
4 - 7. Anyone who has yet to post.

[ZSandmann]

19\24 layers have posted. I am worried about the lynch train on Mike but I started it and for right now he is the number one suspect. Still lots of time and as always I may jump later, for now I'm interested in the back and forth banter. Ice is not ringing my Mafia meter right now. Coler is still playing the loud Innocent, no reason to disagree just yet. DP vs. Mike is still very interesting. I really would like to figure out this PM controversy. DP should not be pming players unless they are Mafia. But if Mike was Mafia why would he say in public thread he got a PM from DP. It's a really confusing situation I'd like to see resolved. As stands if we lynch Mike and he is Innocent DP would become suspect 2 on my list. These are my thoughts thus far.

[ZSandmann]

1. Mike
2. DP
3. No one yet

[jpappy789]

Hello residents of ACville! I just got online for the first time this evening and spent the last 20 minutes reading the posts so here I go...I don't have any new info. Most of what I have to say has already been said. Miken, Ice, and DP's posts at the beginning really have me nervous. It would be dumb to say that all three are mafia (why would 3/7 of the mafia expose themselves on day 1?) but I'm guessing one of them is. Miken seems the most likely candidate but I'm not going to board any lynching trains just yet...

[ZSandmann]

Hi jpappy I'll try not to get you lynched this time round :D Unless you ARE Mafia. Are you?

[jpappy789]

Haha, I forgive you ZS! I'm not going to yell "I'm innocent!" from my rooftop for that will surely make me a suspect, as it appears from all of the games I have been participating in...but I can assure you that like last game, I'm am here to help the town!!!

[joander123]

wow, just caught up a mike is def. ringing the mafia bell.....

although he could just be a newb too, i'll hold my lynch back at least until tomorrow.

[jpappy789]

Although mike is a newb, I think that there are plenty of games for people to go back and read. It's just not an excuse anymore...

[joander123]

im just being a tad cautious cause i said some dumb things in the beginning last game too, and i was innocent. But, hes followed up dumb things with dumber things somehow....

[jpappy789]

I have to agree with you jo...I went after you hard last game...I think I need to be a little cautious too...no jumping to conclusions for me...

[Hooked Newbie]

19\24 layers have posted. I am worried about the lynch train on Mike but I started it and for right now he is the number one suspect. Still lots of time and as always I may jump later, for now I'm interested in the back and forth banter. Ice is not ringing my Mafia meter right now. Coler is still playing the loud Innocent, no reason to disagree just yet. DP vs. Mike is still very interesting. I really would like to figure out this PM controversy. DP should not be pming players unless they are Mafia. But if Mike was Mafia why would he say in public thread he got a PM from DP. It's a really confusing situation I'd like to see resolved. As stands if we lynch Mike and he is Innocent DP would become suspect 2 on my list. These are my thoughts thus far.

No mention of me and Ice? Curious. I'd expect my fellow townies to be at least considering it and the mafia to be trying to insert my name....

The PM thing does still remain a mystery. Along with DP's silence...

[johnlarson66]

I vote to lynch Swayde

Day one is basicly random, even with the newbie slips. I am voting for Swayde because they were the first to role play.

On a side note, I am home and I will be able to be online more. I also have lots of work to catch up on, but I will be able to pay more attention to what is going on.

I am going to post some pics from the fishing trip. I might even take some updated tank pictures.

I need to rest some after my vacation...

[jpappy789]

hmmmmm...I'm going to see if I can get DP out of hiding...I vote to lynch Dwarf Puffer

[ZSandmann]

Z- thanks for the observations! Would you happen to have a list of those yet to post? That list may warrant attention and discussion given the talk of invisibility earlier.


No mention of me and Ice? Curious. I'd expect my fellow townies to be at least considering it and the mafia to be trying to insert my name....

The PM thing does still remain a mystery. Along with DP's silence...

I did mention Ice, you're not on my list right now, you're still a 5.

[Cory Lover]

Weird vote jl, hmmm.

Here are my top suspects:

(1) MikenDanielle-Screaming Mafia all over, to many points to list lol, and is way to eager to dispose of Ice.

(2) DwarfPuffers-PM thing

(3) Ice-seems quite eager to dispose of Mike.

CL

[OgreMkV]

ok. i'm now at my hotel and you guys have been busy. At this time, I only have one small contribution... take a look at the time stamps on the 'arguement'... that's less than 2 hours after the game started. Last game, it took the mafia more than two hours just to hook up, nevermind an organized plan like that. Also, Ice (if mafia) would have better sense than to get in a pissing match like that. Attention is not something that the mafia want now.I agree with jpappy and would like tohear more from DP. For now, I vote to lynch dwarf puffer.

[Swayde]

I vote to lynch Swayde

Day one is basicly random, even with the newbie slips. I am voting for Swayde because they were the first to role play.

On a side note, I am home and I will be able to be online more. I also have lots of work to catch up on, but I will be able to pay more attention to what is going on.

I am going to post some pics from the fishing trip. I might even take some updated tank pictures.

I need to rest some after my vacation...


Well, since I know that I am innocent and I have just been sitting here enjoying my lemonade and fish pond and movies, then I have no other choice but to assume you are simply an evil, malicious, member of the Mafia.

Therefore, I vote to lynch johnlarson66 on the grounds of an undeserved accusation against my innocence and his attempt at having me murdered. If you are a fellow innocent bystander, I beg you to prove it so that I may withdraw my vote before it is too late. Good day.

[OgreMkV]

crap. windows mobile can't do the forum text software. rb., can you bold the vote for me?

[jpappy789]

pssst...Ogre you forgot to vote in bold...oops never mind

edit: oops you're to quick for me...

[plantling]

Hmmmm. That remark about the pm between Mike and DP surely has me wondering also. Maybe they'd care to shed more light on it by tomorrow. For now, it's bedtime. Goodnight all.

[nickmcmechan]

just caught up....5.30 in the morning here....seems like ice and mike are playing gr8 games making me wonder which one is trying to throw us off track, if not both....i'm going to take stab at it

i vote iceh20

[clown-lover]

Just thought I would check in b/4 bed. This is what we have so far..

So far I have 21/24 players have posted
Missing comments from bkw, judge and sploke
12/24 have voted

IceH20 (3) - Hooked (69), Mikendanielle (72), nickmcmechan(170)
Mikendanielle (5) - zSand(76), IceH20(82), Coler(122), Clown(123), charlie(124)
Dwarf Puffer (2) - jPappy(162), OrgeMKV(165)
JohnLarson (1) - Swade(166)
Swade (1) - JohnLarson(161)

Good Night All...

[jpappy789]

wow, there are a lot of votes, really early in the day...

[IceH2O]

Before I leave for work, and remember I have no access so I won't be on till late afternoon at the earliest, I want to throw another little something out there.

The only way to show I'm innocent is to investigate me then somehow let the townies know I am innocent without giving away your power roles.

I ask that all townies remove their vote from me so only mafia votes are there. Then tomorrow if I'm mafia you can pile on and lynch me, but I'm not so its moot.

Dirty Harry said it best. Townies do you feel lucky?
If so then lynch me without investigation so we can read the oh mys and the darn we did it again.

A better strategy is to investigate top players before taking them out IMO.

Before anyone asks I tried to take out Coler because I was mafia and knew he was a Top player. He wasn't going to help me any.

[Madcrawdad]

Well, since I know that I am innocent and I have just been sitting here enjoying my lemonade and fish pond and movies, then I have no other choice but to assume you are simply an evil, malicious, member of the Mafia.

Therefore, I vote to lynch johnlarson66 on the grounds of an undeserved accusation against my innocence and his attempt at having me murdered. If you are a fellow innocent bystander, I beg you to prove it so that I may withdraw my vote before it is too late. Good day.

I vote to lynch Swayde. A quick OMGUS (Oh my God, you suck for voting for me) vote always gets my attention. Not a real pro-town move.

[Swayde]

I vote to lynch Swayde. A quick OMGUS (Oh my God, you suck for voting for me) vote always gets my attention. Not a real pro-town move.


Fair enough. I am a new face in town, so I do understand the suspicion. I had hoped that I would be able to get to know people better before they think the worst of me, but I know this town has been through a lot and is very wary of strangers. I do not wish to lose my life. I hope that you would change your mind and see that I really am just an innocent bystander here, trying to make myself at home.

If you are infact just an innocent townsfolk then yes, I can understand the wariness. I am actually more afraid that you are infact a brother in evildoing with johnlarson66 and that is why you are so eager to defend him and off someone you know is clearly opposed to your way of life.

[clown-lover]

Well it doesn't look like a whole lot has happened last night. I'm off to work and will probably be back late since I have until tomorrow to make an ultimate decision.

Some things have started to pick at my radar and we'll have to see what exactly develops..

Later

[charlie_stubbs]

Folks, I do not disagree with the take on Mike at all, but please look at Ice. He has definitely raised my suspicions and would be the more dangerous of the 2 if they are both mafia. If we have 2 of them at this point, we're off to a great start.

CL & Charlie give me pause with their willingness to jump so quickly without posting their reasoning. Coler was a proven innocent last game and seems to be playing innocent this game, but the first day should be filled with suspicion and not following. IMO, the following would be another way for mafia to lay low.

Hooked, at the risk of sounding defensive i thought my reasoning for voting mike was pretty self-explanatory considering his posts thusfar. My first game i was innocent but nervous to post in case i looked guilty, this guy basically comes in and yells out "hey im innoncent", then points fingers all over the place, even after he has been warned not to do so. He is the first suspect i've had in two games that i didnt rely on more experienced townies to ferret out for me.
As far as ice goes, i agree he is the more dangerous of the two and have taken a closer look at his posts. to be honest he raised my suspicions early on but i'm just not sure. my vote is subject to change if a case can be made for a stronger candidate, but i feel mike is a good choice for right now. my top three suspects at this point are:
1: mikendanielle- reasons as above
2: dwarf puffer- the whole "pmgate thing"
3: Ice- because of the oddness of his posts and his "banter" with mike

[Madcrawdad]

If you are infact just an innocent townsfolk then yes, I can understand the wariness. I am actually more afraid that you are infact a brother in evildoing with johnlarson66 and that is why you are so eager to defend him and off someone you know is clearly opposed to your way of life.

Not defending anyone....Actually don't really care who voted for you. You're the one who carelessly tossed the vote back. Says to me that you're more interested in doing your own thing, than actually helping the town find mafia.

[ZSandmann]

Wow this is a very interesting Day 1. There are a LOT of red flags waving around.

Mike/DP/Ice: I must figure out the PM controversy to know what is going on in this triangle.

jl/Swayde/Mad: Another Trifecta of interest. jl is playing his standard Day 1 vote, Swayde is being very defensive of one vte against him which is pointless as there will likely be many people with one vote by the end of Day 1. Mad is calling out Swayde and got a similar response to what jl got.

Updated List:
1) Mike
2) Swayde
3) Dwarf Puffers

[ZSandmann]

21 of 24 players have posted. (bkw, sploke, judemax have not)

Votes: 13 of 24
IceH2O: 3 -Hooked Newbie (69) MikenDanielle (72) nickmcmechan(170)
MikenDanielle: 5 – Zsandmann (76) IceH2O (82) Coler (122) clown-lover (123) Charlie_stubbs (124)
Swayde: 2 – johnlarson66 (161) MadCrawdad (174)
Dwarf Puffer: 2 – jpappy789 (162) Ogre (165)
Johnlarson66: 1 – Swayde (166)

[Sploke]

holy crap, 12 hours in and almost 200 posts already. I thought, yeah I could check but I'll just do it in the morning. Ok, did a lot of catching up, but here are my thoughts so far.

DP with the pming thing...very suspicious, especially since he then goes into hiding...waiting for directions from the Don to figure out how to dig himself out?

Miken - also supicious, again newbie/mafia split, I could still go either way, but leaning mafia...but at this point who knows.

Ice and Ogre, just because they're slick players. Not saying I suspect them, but they would be ones to watch, I've had trouble getting a consistent read on them in the past. If either or both are mafia, we're in trouble. Again, no accusations, just a general FYI for the newer people,

Although some of Ice's comments make me nervous...don't vote for me vote for someone else until you investigate me...Anyone in the game could use that as justification, and there isn't enough time to investigate EVERYONE. Especially considering the new rule....the Don will show as innocent for the first 6 nights. Is he thinking if we investigate him early he'll be granted immunity and have free play over townies? I don't like that idea...

JL as usual coming out of left field with a vote, but that just seems to be his style. That will have to wait for more info I think.

Thats it for now, I'll probably vote before I leave work today. Night falls Tues morning EST?

[Swayde]

//game off
I am a she btw.
//game on

I just want to say that, yes I am being defensive. I do not wish to lose my life. I want to rid the town of these evil Mafia folks and make friends and have fun with my fellow innocents. I am quite new here to this town and to have death threats made towards me so quickly has me quite afraid. I have no idea who I can trust, if anyone, so yes, I may seem as if I am out on my own, but as far as I can see, that seems to be how everyone in this town is, except of course the Mafia.

[Coler]

Hmmmmmm....same people posting...nothing much new added.

I don't have a better suspect than Mike as yet I'm afraid but I'm highly uncomfortable with this vote at this point, as it seems that people are happy to go with the flow on it, and that to me is indicative of the mafia being happy with it (I'm not saying that the people who voted mike are mafia, just that if he was mafia I'd expect an effort by now to kick against the lynch).

I therefore Remove my vote to lynch Mike

I'll read the whole thread before voting in a few hours, probably will let that vote stick.

[bkw1982]

Although some of Ice's comments make me nervous...don't vote for me vote for someone else until you investigate me...Anyone in the game could use that as justification, and there isn't enough time to investigate EVERYONE. Especially considering the new rule....the Don will show as innocent for the first 6 nights. Is he thinking if we investigate him early he'll be granted immunity and have free play over townies? I don't like that idea...

Good thinking sploke, only i thinks it's 3 nights. if it is 6 night i suggest we change it to 3 cause 6 would mean more then half the game. thats to strong

Well only ppl that stand out for me now

1) Mike. This is like 10 times worse then Jo and CL...like an uber noob mistake
2) DP. Either mike is setting him up or there is something here. Dp would have just been better admitting to the PM.

[johnlarson66]

Day one is random.

We will get to see how people act and what they do.

Someone is going to get lynched. We are hoping to get lucky and lynch a mafia member. It will be luck.

I am concerned with the attack that was given back at me for my vote. I gave my reason for my vote. In no way did I call Swayde mafia or even think there was any reason to think she was mafia. I voted her because she was the first role player. Seems like a good "random" vote to me, maybe it is "left field".

[ZSandmann]

Hmmmmmm....same people posting...nothing much new added.

I don't have a better suspect than Mike as yet I'm afraid but I'm highly uncomfortable with this vote at this point, as it seems that people are happy to go with the flow on it, and that to me is indicative of the mafia being happy with it (I'm not saying that the people who voted mike are mafia, just that if he was mafia I'd expect an effort by now to kick against the lynch).

I therefore Remove my vote to lynch Mike

I'll read the whole thread before voting in a few hours, probably will let that vote stick.

While I agree with you Coler, I have to say that it could be construed that that is in fact what you are attempting to do by removing your post. No offense but I can't accept your statement of Innocence without some solid proof such as a botched hit. I'm not saying you are Mafia either, once again I need more evidence for this claim. You are a solid 5 on my list right now.

[Sploke]

lol ZS...who isn't a 5 right now? Aside from some possibly silly newbies, I think everyone's about there for me right now.

[ZSandmann]

Mike, DP, Swayde, Ice are not 5's but I do not think we should lynch Ice on night 1. We don't know for certain Ice is anything but we do know Ice has good game experience and if he is Innocent then we need him on our side.

[joander123]

Good thinking sploke, only i thinks it's 3 nights. if it is 6 night i suggest we change it to 3 cause 6 would mean more then half the game. thats to strong

Well only ppl that stand out for me now

1) Mike. This is like 10 times worse then Jo and CL...like an uber noob mistake
2) DP. Either mike is setting him up or there is something here. Dp would have just been better admitting to the PM.



only problem is, with the noob mistake... me and CL, i was an innocent and he wasnt... so 50/50 chance?

[joander123]

i vote to lynch swayde

may change as the day goes on, especially if we dont hear from mike and DP again.

I think we need to keep the pressure on both of them, and keep the lynch counts high... watch them squirm and hopefully make more mistakes, if we all back off of mike.... he doesnt even have to post to defend himself anymore, and the same goes with DP. So i think we at least need to draw a few more posts out of them.

[ZSandmann]

JudgeMax is the only player that has not posted in the game thread.

[MikenDanielle]

Sorry for my lack of posts this morning, I was at school, everyd ay 9am-1pm EST. After that I am here and more than happy to post. I am happy some people are starting to see the light, but to help the others I would like anyone who feels I am suspicious to ask me any questions you have so that I can defend myself and prove my true identity. I assure you I have nothing to hide.

[MikenDanielle]

Rb may I say something about the Snitch. I don't really think that will work that well.

The "Snitch". One of the Mafia is a Snitch. Since their cousin Vinny was ousted by the Mafia last year, they feel some revenge is needed. The Snitch does not reveal his identity to anybody, not even the Don, except by me upon their death. The Snitch will PM me a list of 4 names, their choosing, whenever I ask. At least one member of this list will be a Mafia member.These names will be worked into the night time story line. Innocents do not want to kill the snitch too early, and the Mafia want him gone quickly...maybe, depends on their plans.

I think it would be better as a note that is only found upon their death. They PM you nightly with this list which contains the 4 names of which 1 is mafia. Then the townies have a 1 in 4 chance at getting a mafia player. If its far enough into the game the list may even be able to name innocent power roles forcing them out to protect themselves.

I think putting the name into the night time story line is a big mistake as the Snitch could switch names around and end up naming multiple mafia members according to how the suspicion is on those people.


Does this post not seem absolutely suspicious to anyone else? By reading this throughly again it sounds to me as if Ice may possibly be the snitch... I would say he asked this in the board hoping no one would pick up on it, then RBishop PM'ed him the answer as to not give away his identity. This was posted after the PM's went out, so if he were not the Snitch or another mafia player, why would he care that the townies have a 1 in 4 chance tog et a mafia player?


LOL



Okay now if they are mafia we have 2 easy targets. If they aren't we just took out 2 townies. We need to decide if we're prepared to do that. Jo was innocent and did the same but even after being told that was a bad plan Mike did it anyway. Then DP tries to say "Notice in the previous games I've been an innocent I've said similar things, and I was always an innocent".

Sounds like good reasoning to me how about you guys. NOT. Its exactly what a bad mafia player would do IMO.

Its to early and I'm not starting a train, like I said Jo was innocent and the Mafia haven't had time to get together to make a plan to set this up. Just saying watch these guys.

My above statement mixed with this post by Ice of him trying to step right up and take leadership of the us townies, leads me to beleive he is mafia. This falls directly into.. every action has an equal and opposite reaction...

Ice finds out he is a Mafia (Very Bad)

Reaction

Ice tries tot ake leadership of the townies (Very Good)

Curious to hear other peoples thoughts on this.

[plantling]

So Mike, you really got a pm from DP just right after ya'll posted and before RB declared "Game ON"?

[Swayde]

*Swayde stays inside today peeking from her window as people walk by and give her strange looks. It seems newcomers are put through quite a bit of scrutiny before being accepted in this small town. She hopes to win over some friends soon because she is becoming very uneasy about some of the rumors she's overhead and the gossip that there may be a hit coming her way.*

[MikenDanielle]

I will answer all question truthfully...

No I received no pm, I simply wanted to see people reactions to such a thing happening. Him falling silent may be an order from the Don who is worried it may have actually taken place.

[MikenDanielle]

I will answer all question truthfully...

No I received no pm, I simply wanted to see people reactions to such a thing happening. Him falling silent may be an order from the Don who is worried it may have actually taken place.

This didnt come out quaite as clear as I wanted, the full version is that I found it extremely weird that DP would proclaim his innocence right off the bat. So I decided to play with him and see what I could get out of him. I made the PM ploy up to catch a reaction, the reaction was him saying "Are you sure it wasn't someone else". And then falling completely silent, which I feel may be an order form the Don, who felt he was walking way to close to jeopordizing himself by even responding to it, and advised him to lay low until they have some sort of counter attack for my claims.

[MikenDanielle]

My top 3 suspects at this moment are:

1) IceH20
2) DwarfPuffers
3) Swayde

[ZSandmann]

I will answer all question truthfully...

No I received no pm, I simply wanted to see people reactions to such a thing happening. Him falling silent may be an order from the Don who is worried it may have actually taken place.

That's not a great ploy if you ask me as it isn't against game rules to PM. So you effectively said DP was cheating. DP comes off my suspect list pending their response.


This didnt come out quaite as clear as I wanted, the full version is that I found it extremely weird that DP would proclaim his innocence right off the bat. So I decided to play with him and see what I could get out of him. I made the PM ploy up to catch a reaction, the reaction was him saying "Are you sure it wasn't someone else". And then falling completely silent, which I feel may be an order form the Don, who felt he was walking way to close to jeopordizing himself by even responding to it, and advised him to lay low until they have some sort of counter attack for my claims.

I got the gist from the first post. Granted there are outside the box ways to figure out the Mafia but I don't care for this one. I'm not going to label DP Mafia because they were completely caught off gaurd by your fishing expedition. If anything this makes you seem more like Mafia in my opinion. My vote stands for now.

[bkw1982]

seriously mike ur digging urself a hole 20ft deep and 10ft wide lol. i have a question for ya. Why'd u pick dp, several ppl didnt speak up and claim innocents...what made u pick dp?

[MikenDanielle]

DP did speak up and claim innocence, his first past was

"Darn, innocent again"

[Swayde]

I'd like to withdraw my vote at this time. I really thought it would be best to protect myself, but since I am not sure if Johnlarson66 is an Innocent or in fact Mafia it would be best to just wait and see.

My door is open. Should anyone wish to stop on by for a glass of lemonade or sweet tea. Please feel free. I would hope that people would take the chance to get to know me to see that I am in fact a good, honest person just looking to make myself at home in this quiant little town.

[bkw1982]

I apologize mike i read it wrong....but still why 1min later u post the exact same thing? and i agree with Z that it wasn't the best idea.

[MikenDanielle]

Maybe not the best idea, but an idea none the less. I wanted to know why one arth he would do that this early, so I did the same, made up the PM ploy, intending to see his reaction and reveal the plot. It has now been over 12 hours and we have heard nothing from him, my plan, in my opinion, worked like a charm, why would someone so eagar to post just disappear after two posts, for over 12 hours.

[MikenDanielle]

To add to this, he has been online and has made 11 posts since we last heard from him, some lastnight some this morning... if he is posting elsewhere,. why not here?

[ZSandmann]

Burn the witch!

[MikenDanielle]

Burn the witch!

lol Am I the witch?

[ZSandmann]

No, I was wondering why we are out to make DP the witch.

[Sploke]

She turned me into a newt!

[Madcrawdad]

I will answer all question truthfully...

No I received no pm, I simply wanted to see people reactions to such a thing happening. Him falling silent may be an order from the Don who is worried it may have actually taken place.

Here's the thing, pal. Mafia are LIARS, and you lied. Saying that you wanted to see people's reaction to your lie, doesn't change the fact that you lied. The majority of people in this game are innocents, and your willingness to cast suspicion on another player who had barely spoken at that point is HIGHLY suspect. The more you talk, the more mafia you seem to me.

If you're lynched and end up innocent, you're an innocent the town can live without....

[ZSandmann]

You said we could ask you any question and you'd answer honestly. How about:

If you could be any type of cheese, what kind of cheese would you be and why?

And here is an answer for you, give me the question:

Spatula.

[MikenDanielle]

I am not mkaing him/her a wtich, simply showing that there is something fishy going on.. claiming innocence, falling into my trap and responding to my claim, vanishing from this thread, but still posting on other threads. Has the DOn told DP to law low? Has the Don told DP that if he goes on claiming his innocence he will surely be lynched first? If DP makes a return and has a reasonable answer I may change this, as for now....

I change my vote to Dwarff Puffers

[MikenDanielle]

You said we could ask you any question and you'd answer honestly. How about:

If you could be any type of cheese, what kind of cheese would you be and why?

And here is an answer for you, give me the question:

Spatula.

LOl If I could be any cheese Ig uess I would be Swiss.. cause Swiss cheese simply rocks.

Second.. a question for you to give the answer spatula to...

What is your favorite thing to be spanked with?

[Madcrawdad]

I am not mkaing him/her a wtich, simply showing that there is something fishy going on.. claiming innocence, falling into my trap and responding to my claim, vanishing from this thread, but still posting on other threads. Has the DOn told DP to law low? Has the Don told DP that if he goes on claiming his innocence he will surely be lynched first? If DP makes a return and has a reasonable answer I may change this, as for now....

I change my vote to Dwarff Puffers

Hah...the only thing you caught was your foot in your mouth.

[MikenDanielle]

Hah...the only thing you caught was your foot in your mouth.


How does that signify I caught my foot in my mouth?? I was simply explaining why I was doing what I was doing... I may be wrong.. but I thought the purpose of this game was to find the mafia... I myself beleive the mafia would be prone to doing suspicious things when set in traps... ie not making a post for over 12 hours.

[Dangerdoll]

ewww... what a wild first day. I will have to admit, Mike... a major no no on your part. Since you are in the mood for answering questions, why in the world would you feel the need to "trap" anyone, regardless of claiming innocence so early in the game? Trapping smells like mafia to me.... unless what it is, is you are the mafia and know who to go after and saw DP as an easy prey...

hmmm..... favorite cheese is swiss. Swiss cheese is full of holes.... a lot like your explanations

[Dwarf Puffers]

Seeing as last time I checked this thread it wasn't even 2 pages, and now it's almost 33, I skipped from 6 to this.

Really though, the only one who emailed me about the game was Rbishop. That's how I knew it had started ;). Rb, are people allowed to lie like that? With the whole "omg DP PMed me" thing? I mean SURE, goof around roll-playing and basically point you're finger at them, but to lie about forbidden (in the game) private messages? That's a little too much, IMO.

[Coler]

While I agree with you Coler, I have to say that it could be construed that that is in fact what you are attempting to do by removing your post. No offense but I can't accept your statement of Innocence without some solid proof such as a botched hit. I'm not saying you are Mafia either, once again I need more evidence for this claim. You are a solid 5 on my list right now.

understood and accepted - same goes for most anyone presently...there are effectively no innocents this round

[MikenDanielle]

How are my explainations full of holes, and if they are ask me to fill them in, I have nothing to hide. The reason I felt the need to trap someone was because.... I thought that was the purpose of the game.. find the mafia. Maybe I read a different set of rules, I am not sure. If you are really questioning me, I will make you what I see is a fair offer. I am so sure that DP is mafia right now, that if you vote to lynch them, and they turn out not to be mafia I will willing campaign for people the vote for me the following the day and ever vote for myself, or even better fall into a mysterious death.

[Coler]

How does that signify I caught my foot in my mouth?? I was simply explaining why I was doing what I was doing... I may be wrong.. but I thought the purpose of this game was to find the mafia... I myself beleive the mafia would be prone to doing suspicious things when set in traps... ie not making a post for over 12 hours.

you said DP pm'd you. if this is true you're both mafia. if this is not true you're mafia for trying to set someone else up...I use the phrase trying to set someone else up in the same sense as I tried to persuade Lindsay Lohan to go on a date with me by sending her 1,000 emails, a test-tube of my own spit and a lock of my armpit hair and that isn't going to work either.

[MikenDanielle]

Seeing as last time I checked this thread it wasn't even 2 pages, and now it's almost 33, I skipped from 6 to this.

Really though, the only one who emailed me about the game was Rbishop. That's how I knew it had started ;). Rb, are people allowed to lie like that? With the whole "omg DP PMed me" thing? I mean SURE, goof around roll-playing and basically point you're finger at them, but to lie about forbidden (in the game) private messages? That's a little too much, IMO.


I see DP and the Don have come to an agreeable response. Too bad I figured it out before they had a chance too. My guess, the Don seen us figure out DP's disappearing act was way to suspicious and told him to go make a post. Or... maybe he forgot he was playing???

[Coler]

How are my explainations full of holes, and if they are ask me to fill them in, I have nothing to hide. The reason I felt the need to trap someone was because.... I thought that was the purpose of the game.. find the mafia. Maybe I read a different set of rules, I am not sure. If you are really questioning me, I will make you what I see is a fair offer. I am so sure that DP is mafia right now, that if you vote to lynch them, and they turn out not to be mafia I will willing campaign for people the vote for me the following the day and ever vote for myself, or even better fall into a mysterious death.

this is how to play the mafia game 101 for slow learners : 'I'll vote for myself how could I be wrong about someone else'

I renew my vote to lynch MikenDanielle based on these last posts

[MikenDanielle]

you said DP pm'd you. if this is true you're both mafia. if this is not true you're mafia for trying to set someone else up...I use the phrase trying to set someone else up in the same sense as I tried to persuade Lindsay Lohan to go on a date with me by sending her 1,000 emails, a test-tube of my own spit and a lock of my armpit hair and that isn't going to work either.


What do you mean setting him up means I am a mafia.. how do you expect to find the mafia if you dont set traps for them?? DO you think there gonna come out wearing "Im in the mafia" chains around their necks?? No, you have to set up them up to effectivly find them.

[Coler]

She turned me into a newt!

hee hee hee

[Coler]

how do you expect to find the mafia if you dont set traps for them?? DO you think there gonna come out wearing "Im in the mafia" chains around their necks??

sometimes they do a good fish impression...usually found splashing around in a barrel then we shoot 'em

[MikenDanielle]

sometimes they do a good fish impression...usually found splashing around in a barrel then we shoot 'em

I am guessing you have never read any books of Mafia downfalls or seen any movies on the topic. I don't see how you could be strong player at a game of this sort when you are not familiar with how to do things like this in the real world. It would be nice if real life mafiaso's would just jump out and waive a flag, but sadly they do not, the police, fbi, etc, etc set traps for them, the mafia fall inot the traps, the mafia gets busted.

[Cory Lover]

Ok, with that whole Lindsay Lohan thing Coler, ya grossed me out lol

Ok, Mike, why did you make so many dumb posts after people said to stop making them?

I personally think Mike was trying to lable DP as Mafia but it didn't work out so well. Or they are both Mafia, and they both made a stupid plan.

I vote to lynch MikenDanielle. Unless you can prove me otherwise Mike I'm sticking with my vote.

CL

[MikenDanielle]

A quote I feel is really neccessary at this moment in time...

To catch a crook, one must think like a crook

[MikenDanielle]

Ok, with that whole Lindsay Lohan thing Coler, ya grossed me out lol

Ok, Mike, why did you make so many dumb posts after people said to stop making them?

I personally think Mike was trying to lable DP as Mafia but it didn't work out so well. Or they are both Mafia, and they both made a stupid plan.

I vote to lynch MikenDanielle. Unless you can prove me otherwise Mike I'm sticking with my vote.

CL

I can proove you otherwise, but sending you a copy of my PM from RBishop is against the rules, so I guess the onus lies on yuorself. Think what you must, but I truely feel I am one of the townspeoples strongest assests with my cunning ways.

[ZSandmann]

...like a fox?

[jpappy789]

The purpose of the game is to find the mafia, but what you did, well I don't think we've ever seen that kind of stuff before...your guarantee that DP is mafia after 4 posts by them? You are moving up my list...

[Cory Lover]

I can proove you otherwise, but sending you a copy of my PM from RBishop is against the rules, so I guess the onus lies on yuorself. Think what you must, but I truely feel I am one of the townspeoples strongest assests with my cunning ways.

I think one asset you need to learn is being quiet so you don't dig yourself a bigger hole.;)

CL

[Coler]

...like a fox?

like a craaaaaaaaaaazy fox

[Coler]

sometimes they do a good fish impression...usually found splashing around in a barrel then we shoot 'em


I am guessing you have never read any books of Mafia downfalls or seen any movies on the topic. I don't see how you could be strong player at a game of this sort when you are not familiar with how to do things like this in the real world. It would be nice if real life mafiaso's would just jump out and waive a flag, but sadly they do not, the police, fbi, etc, etc set traps for them, the mafia fall inot the traps, the mafia gets busted.

:D

[Madcrawdad]

Think what you must, but I truely feel I am one of the townspeoples strongest assests with my cunning ways.

I personally thought your idea of leaving known mafia in the game, so we can kill them 'as necessary' was particularly cunning.

[Coler]

...I dunno townies...maybe's he's just rrrrrrrrrrrreally new...remember joander (my vote stays where it is on him btw)

[MikenDanielle]

I think I have a better asset, I can be quiet so I don't keep digging myself a bigger hole.;)

CL

To me being quiet is suspicious, seems like there must be something to hide. I have never once veered away from a question, all my answered add up and can not be proven wrong if logic is used. I am totally out in the open about everything, and if you do choose to lynch me first, then once DP is lynched and you find out I was an innocent and being honest, and my amazing analytical skills helped to uncover DP, then maybe next game you will all see the power of what I am capable of doing.

[Coler]

I personally thought your idea of leaving known mafia in the game, so we can kill them 'as necessary' was particularly cunning.

like when you're sick but you don't take the medicine in case you get even mooooooooore sick so that you can be sure and cure the first sickness if that happens

or when you're falling out of a plane and you have a parachute but you don't pull the cord so that you can use it if you ever fall out of a plane again

or if your house was on fire but you don't put it out so that ...ummmmmmm...no...they're all pretty dumb actually...

[johnlarson66]

Right now, everyone is suspect. To think any different is very dangerous. What was in the past is the past. There are new mafia.

We are in the dark. A lot of our information will come from the mafia hits. Watching how people vote can be helpful, but it is not as helpful these first few days.

We also have players who can investigate. They have to lay low themselves, last game the mayor was a very high mafia choice. As a town, we have to do our best not to lynch the detective and/or mayor. We have been lucky with a couple of good doctors the last few games.

I also think the players that have played more need to keep in mind that the some of the new players are just excited. I also think that it is real good advise for the new players to read the older games. I watched game 1 and was into it before I ever played.

[MikenDanielle]

like when you're sick but you don't take the medicine in case you get even mooooooooore sick so that you can be sure and cure the first sickness if that happens

or when you're falling out of a plane and you have a parachute but you don't pull the cord so that you can use it if you ever fall out of a plane again

or if your house was on fire but you don't put it out so that ...ummmmmmm...no...they're all pretty dumb actually...


Or if ya had $1000 and ya saved it just incase there was an emergency and you really needed it..... Like a fish tank cracking or something horrific of the sorts.

[Cory Lover]

To me being quiet is suspicious, seems like there must be something to hide. I have never once veered away from a question, all my answered add up and can not be proven wrong if logic is used. I am totally out in the open about everything, and if you do choose to lynch me first, then once DP is lynched and you find out I was an innocent and being honest, and my amazing analytical skills helped to uncover DP, then maybe next game you will all see the power of what I am capable of doing.


I have another good asset, I don't puff myself up :lol:

CL

[Sploke]

The fact that he can be "100% sure" of ANYONE at this point in the game leds me to believe

a) he's got some JM-like psychic powers
b) he just likes jumping to conclusions
c) he's mafia and has already established a target innocent (or fellow mafia, in the case of teamwork) to run a lynch train on.

I'm going toward c.

[MikenDanielle]

I can't wait until you all lynch me and then find out I was an innocenta nd go back and see that all my actions and posts make sense, I just hope that those same investigative analysists are used in the enxt game, then maybe we will spare alot more innocent townspeople the time around.

[jpappy789]

I don't get why you would let a known mafia run around the streets of ACville? To save them for a different day, while in the mean time they wreak havoc? It doesn't make sense to me, looks more like a cover-up of some sort...

[Sploke]

Whats an analysist?

[MikenDanielle]

I don't get why you would let a known mafia run around the streets of ACville? To save them for a different day, while in the mean time they wreak havoc? It doesn't make sense to me, looks more like a cover-up of some sort...

My logic behind this was that once it gets down to 1 or 2 mafias, if we save 1 that we are really sure about, then it is an easy win... if we get down to 1 or 2 and have no clue who they are, we are still severly weak.

[Coler]

I don't get why you would let a known mafia run around the streets of ACville? To save them for a different day, while in the mean time they wreak havoc? It doesn't make sense to me, looks more like a cover-up of some sort...

I want to know in some detail a) why DP is 100% mafia (note DP may well be mafia) and b) why Ice is also 100% mafia (note Ice may well be mafia)

[MikenDanielle]

Whats an analysist?

It's a word I made up for lack of fidning a better one.

[Coler]

My logic behind this was that once it gets down to 1 or 2 mafias, if we save 1 that we are really sure about, then it is an easy win... if we get down to 1 or 2 and have no clue who they are, we are still severly weak.

yeah but this is no reason to keep you around if you are mafia...are you actually conceding that you appear to be mafia but we should keep you around because there are other mafia who we don't know about ??

I suppose...that could be a fair point lol...maybe you will tell us who your buddies are

[MikenDanielle]

I want to know in some detail a) why DP is 100% mafia (note DP may well be mafia) and b) why Ice is also 100% mafia (note Ice may well be mafia)


DP's disappearing act reaks of mafia

Ice's take charge of the townspeople reaks of having something to prove. Why would someone step out the first day and try to take lead if they did not have something to prove... ie there not a mafia... which leads me to beleive he is a mafia.