Friends Yellow Hap SICK!

[Mystroe_TheMyst]

well my friend owns a 4ft long tank and he has a variety of electics in there.

he tells me that 1 of his electric yellows have puffed up like a ballon, he says its bloat, he knows what to do but I said that you guys could offer him some help

what would you do and what do you do in these cases?

the electric is probably 3" not sure thats what i'm guessing

his tank has a nice setup with small substrate and pleco's (3), cory's, electric blues (2 last time i saw), numberous electric yellows....

he needs help quickly i would imagine, plz tell me everythingn from putting them in a dif. tank to how often the water should be changed in the quarentine tank and what to put in the water etc..

thanks

[valerie]

tell your friend to read this article http://www.cichlid-forum.com/articles/malawi_bloat.php

[Mystroe_TheMyst]

Thanks For the site, I've forwarded the site to his e-mail..but other then that are there different solutions other than using chemicals and drugs etc...

[valerie]

I'm not sure as i have never had bloat myself but you could always try salt, 1 TBSP/5gals won't hurt(if there is not catfish in the tank)

I think bloat is a serious thing and needs meds to fix.Hopefully someone will come around that knows about it more hten i do. You can also try the forums at www.cichlid-forum.com since they deal with africcans and malawi bloat is a problem they know about.

Tell your friend good luk with his fish

[Mystroe_TheMyst]

thanks, I'm gonna recommend some stuff to my friend and see what happens, i think he know what to do but I'm just helping out see if there is somthing he missed

[JSchmidt]

My experience with bloat in mbuna is that most fish tha show significant symptoms will die. In milder cases, I've had fish survive that were fasted for severa days, then fed only fresh veggies.

The problem is that bloat is a symptom that may have more than one cause. Sometimes bloat, particularly in mbuna, seems to be related to constipation of the long, delicate intestinal tracts. (Hence, the fasting.) Worse cases seem to involve some sort of microbial infection, most likely secondary to poor diet, poor water conditions, etc.

Early in my fishkeeping days, I treated severe cases with Clout, and it worked on some occasions. I don't know if the fish would have survived without it, though...

Besides the immediate problem with the sick fish, bloat is a sign that fishkeeping practices need to be evaluated and changed. Appropriately fed and well-maintained fish don't succumb to bloat, generally.

HTH,
Jim

[Mystroe_TheMyst]

Yeah this guy doesn' look good, i don't think he is going to make it

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[Mystroe_TheMyst]

He Is R.I.P

:(

[valerie]

whoa that is one puffed up fish!!!:eek: I'm sorry that it didn't make it but once symptoms get that severe its usualy too late.


What was your friend feeding it? Are any of his other fish bloated too?Some times bloat can be cause by feedign too much meaty foods to africans. Yellow labs can handle more meat in their diet then most mbuna but you should still be careful. I feed mind a base diet of a spirulina flake and pellet and feed frozen brine shrimp 2 times a week.

If your friend is keeping other mbuna that are more veggitarian them jsut stick with a good veggie flake.

Good luck with the rest of his fish

[Mystroe_TheMyst]

His fish are fine he feeds them a wide vairety of foods, spirulina pellets, high protien pellets shrimp (freezed and live) and other pellets that are crushed.

he was the only one that got sick, he doesn't know why....

[<><FunSize><>]

Yeah that was my fish he did die but the bloat did not spread to anyother fish in the tank so that is a good thing Thanks for everyones help CHEERS!!!!

but i still have no idea why it happened :( i only hope it does not happen again

And the other fish in the tank are 2 electric yellows 2 electric blues 3 plecos 2 bristel noses 3 soulisi mumbas 2 red finned zebras and 2 O. lithobates

[valerie]

Then the only thing i can think of is making sure you don't feed too much protein.Make veggies/spirulina flakes a bigger part of their diet then protien. Protein is sometimes the cause of bloat in Mbuna