Mafia #7 -- The Play

[Rbishop]

Game Mechanics

1) Each 'day' everyone in the town (including mafia) can vote to lynch someone. You vote by saying (in bold)… I vote to lynch so and so.

a. You must vote each day, even if it is for No One.

b. If you decide to switch your vote, state in bold you are doing so and the new vote.

c. Do not put your vote in your signature.

2) Whoever has the most votes gets lynched. If you have two and everyone else has one vote… you get lynched.

a. The priority of night time happenings are:

Kidnapping
Town Lynch
Mafia Hit
Untimely Deaths

b. I will use a random number generator to determine which Mafia groups' hit goes through.

c. The Doctor can protect hits only not lynchings.

d. If multiple people have the same number of votes, I will use the random generator to decide which of those gets lynched.

3) If you aren't active for two day/night cycles, with at least posting once, then you will pass away from some strange (probably embarrassing) illness that I will give you.

4) Everything stays in the game, no PMing people and setting up deals or alliances, or discussing issues in this game on other sites. The sole exception to this is the authorization by me for special role players to do so.

a.I STRONGLY SUGGEST THAT AUTHORIZED PEOPLE COMMUNICATE VIA AN OFF SITE MESSAGING BOARD LIKE MSN/AIM/ICQ.

5) You can say whatever you want in the game, but you can't 'prove it' with my PM to you.

6) Anyone can declare themselves the detective; indeed, I've seen the bad guys do so quite effectively for a short time.

7) The Mafia win when they outnumber the Innocents, after a nights events.

8) The Innocents win if they lynch all the Mafia.

9) If you have any questions, PM me. If it's important to all, I'll post it.

10) No one, unless authorized to do so, are to discuss the game outside of the thread. That's kind of the point. If you are discussing things, then everyone else doesn't get the benefit of your deliberations. Think town hall rather than internet chat room.

11) Do not edit your posts!

12) NO AFTER DEATH POSTS!

The players are the townsfolk in the great City of ACville.

Some are Innocents; the remaining are 2 groups of Mafia ( Old School/New School ); the Mafia will be divided into 2 teams and only know who is in their respective group; they can communicate with only their own group. Each group will get 3 investigations, if they find a member of the other Mafia group they will show as a Concerned Citizen


The Doctor...has the ability to protect one person each game night, if that person is on a hit list, they can not protect on a lynch. They do this by sending me a PM at game nightfall on who is to be protected that night. Be sure to protect the right person, Doctor! The Doctor can't protect them self .

The Detective...investigates the Town Residents to confirm Mafia identities, and find other special role players. The Detective can do one investigation each game night by PM to me and I will confirm the identity. When he finds the Doctor, they can communicate.

The Mafia - I will pick a leader among your group to PM me your hit. If the leader dies you will need to send in your own hits/investigations. I won't hold a no vote against you, though it will be frowned upon, whoever has the most votes dies. I might be so downtroddened at a non vote that your name could subconciously be typed onto the hit post that night. Each Mafia group will get an investigation per night, if they investigate another Mafia, it will show as innocent.

The Mafia only get 3 investigations each per game. The Mafia group that gets the hit completed doesn't get an investigation completed, the Mafia group whose hit didn't go through will get an investigation completed. A non completed investigation will not count against your alloted amount.

Botched Hit/Lynch - One night I will use a random number generator to see if there will be a botched hit or lynch. I will then use the random number generator to see if the chosen botch works or not. The night is random and will be chosen at game start by pulling numbers out of a hat. It will be in the 1st week though.

The "Snitch". One of the Mafia is a Snitch. Since their cousin Vinny was ousted by the Mafia last year, they feel some revenge is needed. The Snitch does not reveal his identity to anybody, not even the Don, except by me upon their death. The Snitch will PM me a list of 3 names, their choosing, whenever I ask. At least one member of this list will be a Mafia member.These names will be worked into the night time story line. Innocents do not want to kill the snitch too early, and the Mafia want him gone quickly...maybe, depends on their plans.

The Kidnapping...after night #1, the Kidnapper can PM me to remove a player for one day cycle (until the next night is over). If the kidnapped victim is on that nights lynch or hit, or investigation, nothing will be revealed. If the kidnapper is on that nights lynch or hit, the kidnap will fail. The kidnapped person will not be able to post in the thread until I have released him. The kidnapper can not reveal their identity to anyone!

The Thief...this person can stop a lynch or hit from happening. On the one time they can function, they PM me when I call for PMs and let me know what they want to steal, the lynch or the hit.

The Mystery Person...they join the game after the events of game night #2. They will show innocent on any investigation. A random generator will decide if an Innocent or a Mafia, and what team they may be on.

If for any reason you need to leave the game, please PM me, do not post it in the thread.IF YOU POST THAT YOU QUIT YOU DIE AS SOON AS I SEE THE POST. NO EXCEPTIONS. YOUR ROLE WILL BE REVEALED. I don't care if you recant the quit you will still die.


"In the game you will get accused, grilled, made to look like an idiot, and a hundred other things. IN THE GAME. Do not take anything personally or make ANY personal attacks."

[Rbishop]

KOTD
Zsand
charlie
Hooked
Dangerdoll
Ice
jl66
mee-mee
swayde
joander
jpap
Lady G
Mad
Deputy
sploke
plant
wata

and a mystery person

[Rbishop]

9 innocents, 8 mafia in two teams

[mee-mee]

So the Thief is like the Vigilante...only 1 theft per game..is that it...

[Rbishop]

Game On!!!

ACville is coming alive again, after a period of slumber. Things have drastically changed though.

The new younger generation of Mafia are trying to establish themselves, tired of the "old" ways.

Many new businesses have opened, leading the way for growth. New folk are always popping in.

Can the Innocents keep the town safe?


Day 1 twilight will be at 9 PM EST Wednesday, 08/29.

[IceH2O]

woo hoo 1st post....


Lets watch the mafia take one another out again lol.

[wataugachicken]

my suspicions are on Mee-mee.

she posted before the game officially started. . . . looks like a troublemaker already.

[KingOfTheDeep]

lol...i need a break...

[joander123]

good to see a new game is under way. I was out so early last time, that i didnt even end up following the game much, but it looked like a good one.

[ZSandmann]

Sandy is glad to be back in ACville. His home seems to have survived the fires and riots during the last Mafia infestation, maybe this time the town can stay clean forever. Looking for work he begins pounding the pavement and discovers the town has become overrun with stray dogs. That's it! He exclaims. Sandy the Dogcatcher will clean this town up in more ways than one.

There ya go jl. :D

[IceH2O]

I was waiting for someone lol

Ice never left AC, he wanted to return the town back to its original ways. The best way he knew how was to become a council member. He along with others helped lower crime by adding more cops, lowering taxes to bring citizens back in and new businesses.

Next on the councils agenda is to bring Professional sports to ACville.

[johnlarson66]

There ya go jl. :D

ty

I vote to lynch ZSandmann

[ZSandmann]

lol Ice. Lots of twists this round I'm still reading the rules to try and figure everything out.

[ZSandmann]

ty

I vote to lynch ZSandmann

I feel all special. :y220d:

[Hooked Newbie]

Woohoo! Let's get it on! I already suspect mee-mee and DD... not sure why though. lol

[charlie_stubbs]

Charlie, the towns hairdresser, sits at the window of his lonely shop. He watches Sandy, the local Dogcatcher run past in tireless pursuit of another stray dog. Once his shop would have been filled with customers, but the times had changed. People were afraid.

[ZSandmann]

Hairdresser :rofl:

[charlie_stubbs]

Woohoo! Let's get it on! I already suspect mee-mee and DD... not sure why though. lol
hmmmmmmm....sure there not on your team??? better double check your list...

[Hooked Newbie]

hmmmmmmm....sure there not on your team??? better double check your list...

The only list I have is very simple. I suspect everyone. Already trying to cast suspicion on an innocent? Pretty early, even for you. lol

[ZSandmann]

The Mystery Player is what is bugging me. Who would it be? Neo maybe?

[Hooked Newbie]

So what's your secret identity Spidey?

[wataugachicken]

Chicken closes up her ice cream shop, exhausted after the long day. Business is good, but she almost had to drive the customers out tonight. She is thankful, though - this is the end of season rush, and most of her patrons were families with children, getting a nice treat before school starts again. Chicken is surprised at the amount of business, since it seems like the town has been changing, and many of her regulars have moved away. Door locked, she starts to sweep up.

[charlie_stubbs]

The Mystery Player is what is bugging me. Who would it be? Neo maybe?
I heard it might be Neil Patrick Harris of "Doogie Howser" fame. Whoever it is, they already have some explaining to do...

[Hooked Newbie]

I heard it might be Neil Patrick Harris of "Doogie Howser" fame. Whoever it is, they already have some explaining to do...

:rofl:

I vote to lynch Doogie!

I've been waiting years to say that...

[ZSandmann]

I heard it might be Neil Patrick Harris of "Doogie Howser" fame. Whoever it is, they already have some explaining to do...

lmao, he was better in Starship Troopers.

[IceH2O]

Leave Doogie alone, he just came out of the closet.

I think he plays a great single straight guy on How I met your mother

[ZSandmann]

Dangerdoll
swayde
jpappy789
Lady G
MadCrawdad
DeputyChiefJR
sploke
plantling

Where are all of ya!

[Madcrawdad]

Leave Doogie alone, he just came out of the closet.

I think he plays a great single straight guy on How I met your mother
Greetings all...

He plays a pretty funny part in 'Harold & Kumar Go to White Castle,' too.

[jpappy789]

Jappy returns to ACville a new man. His days of mischief and murder are over. He decides to take up the craft of masonry. He believes that by helping the town he will show his newfound "good side." But Jappy also knows that every move he makes will be judged, and suspicion will be cast on him no matter how hard he tries...

[KingOfTheDeep]

Dangerdoll
swayde
jpappy789
Lady G
MadCrawdad
DeputyChiefJR
sploke
plantling

Where are all of ya!

that'd make a good mafia list :naughty:

[jpappy789]

No newbies this game...good and bad...

[joander123]

my vote is bad, no one to vote for due to the dumb mafia slip ups (even though they dont always end up being mafia lol)

[mee-mee]

And what is your reasoning this time HN...

Woohoo! Let's get it on! I already suspect mee-mee and DD... not sure why though. lol


:rofl:

I vote to lynch Doogie!

I've been waiting years to say that...

NOOOOOOO...

[mee-mee]

my suspicions are on Mee-mee.

she posted before the game officially started. . . . looks like a troublemaker already.

Do you even want to have any of my eclairs....

Meemee had a long day at the river...washing clothes and tending to the Pastry shop...and she has her trusty Chi with her...that Swayde so gracially took care of...
MeeMee decides to go over to Swayde's house and welcome her back to town....along with some eclairs, and pastries....the sun is setting and MeeMee decides it is better to venture over to Swayde's house tomorrow...she stops by Plantlings first to say hello, and to thank her for also taking care of Chi.....sure hope Swayde likes that her goldfish are still alive and well....

[Sploke]

Sploke finishes mopping up the last of the spills from the residual set-up, and stands back to admire the 500gal discus display tank is his shop front. This is the fifth time he's tried to set up a high-end exotic fish store, only to have to shut down due to lack of basic fishkeeping knowledge of his customer base. His customers always complained of fish only living a few days or weeks....no wonder, stocking things like a pleco and 10 goldfish in a 5 gallon tank. For shame, for shame. He ot news of this town from local rumors...it sounded like these people had some sort of...fish fetish. Obsessed, that was the word the stranger had used, as he had explained the inexplicable number of fishtanks displayed in peoples' houses...everywhere. A whole town, obsessed with fish? That sounded like a place for this guy. He walks onto the sidewalk and looks up and down main street in the morning mist. He had been up all night putting the finishing touches on the displays, and he slowly walked back inside and flipped the sign on the door to "Open". Well, the sixth time's the charm, isn't that what they say?

[Hooked Newbie]

And what is your reasoning this time HN...




NOOOOOOO...

Day one so I have only your checkered past to go on...

Doogie is my best suspect so far...

[ZSandmann]

I vote to lynch Ms. Peacock in the Observatory with the Lead Pipe.

[jpappy789]

So far,

1 vote for Zsand by jl

1 vote for Doogie by Hn

1 vote for Ms. Peacock by Zsand

Wow, this game seem to be taking off, lol!

[Hooked Newbie]

So far,

1 vote for Zsand by jl

1 vote for Doogie by Hn

1 vote for Ms. Peacock by Zsand

Wow, this game seem to be taking off, lol!

Ok, I unvote lynching Doogie. I don't want to be non-PC.

[jpappy789]

So technically only one real vote and that's a given by jl...wow, gotta love night 1

[ZSandmann]

Well to be fair only half the players have even posted. Tomorrow things will warm up.

[ZSandmann]

Dangerdoll
swayde
Lady G
DeputyChiefJR
plantling

Is that you Mafia folks sitting over in the corner chatting to yourselves? Come join us. :D

[Hooked Newbie]

Well to be fair only half the players have even posted. Tomorrow things will warm up.

It could be scheduling too though. If the game were to start during the day, I would be awhile...

[ZSandmann]

Yup that's true HN.

Sandy tosses the last mutt of the day in the back of his Ford E-250 Kennel-van and drops them by the pound. As he locks up he sees a mysterious figure staring at him in the shadows but as he steps closer the shadow runs away down an alley. He shrugs it off and drives home where he locks his doors a little tighter than usual, pours a glass of tea and sits back to watch the news. Before he knows it he dozes off in his chair.

Night all, be back on tomorrow evening. Maybe a bit during the day, we'll see.

[plantling]

Hi everyone. Well got back from my night class and grabbed a bite to eat then watched a little tv to relax. I'm glad I checked in at AC'ville before turning in as I wasn't expecting the game to start so soon. Looks like alot of rpg going on. Hmmmm. O'right what the hey.

Plantling is glad ACville is bustling with life again and tries to be optimistic. This town has managed to survive several attempts at takeover by Mafia scumbags and this time will be no different. Townsfolk have to be alert 'cause there are two teams of scumbags this time around and they won't hesitate to take any innocents. As Plantling is the owner and operator of her own interior design company, she decides to put it to good use for the good of the town. While on her various jobs for new and old residents alike, trying to improve the spaces they use for work or leisure, she will keep her eyes open for any shady goings on.

And mee-mee, it was a pleasure to keep Chi for you. My job will keep me quite busy so I'll prolly stop by your pastry shop and grab some fresh baked croissants. Maybe I'll see Swayde there as well and we can talk about her beautiful goldfish and pond as well as share thoughts on any strange goings on in ACville.

[jpappy789]

Lalala...

Probably going to bed soon, but I may sneek on later tonight, if not early in the morning...I gotta condition myself for when school starts...ugh!

[DeputyChiefJR]

Jon gets home from the bar...It was a fun night, met some new people he had never seen before...He wasn't looking forward to getting back to work in the morning but a job's a job....Cooking at the steakhouse is nice, he gets his time to himself but he also gets to make the meals just as people want them....seems weird but he loves the simplicity in his life of cooking, no big worries...gettin the cute chicks that wander in when he can....he's here to live it up and be young...

[Lady G]

Lady G looks out the store window of the local Wal-Mart she in now running and see's Sandy in the parking lot chasing yet another stray dog. Lady G thinks to herself she will call Sandy in the morning and see if he would like her to start a donation box for dog food, treats, shampoo...anything to help with the care of the dogs. Which makes Lady G think of Mee-Mees cute little Chi, she will have to remember to ask Mee-Mee how her Chi is doing the next time Mee-Mee is in to pick up ingredients for her delicious eclairs. As Lady G turns to go to help a customer she something move out of the corner of her eye around the carts she looks closer and see's no one and shrugs it off as just the lighting.

Wow it's 4am and I have to be up around 7 to get kids off to school and then be at work by 9:30 so I most likely will not be on again until after 5-6pm. At least I will have most of the night after that to be on though since I FINALLY got a day shift! OMG I hate to think of all the catching up I will have to do AND try to figure out what is going on at the same time:hypnotized:

[IceH2O]

Ice walks out to see the the lunar eclipse, there is a small crowd of ACvillians gathered at the Bala statue. Unfortunately its a bit overcast


Not much to see in here either, hopefully it will get buzzing this afternoon and evening. Nothing to go on yet but I might take a page from Jl, he votes for the 1st role player I might vote for the last to post. Don't be the last one guys!

[Swayde]

Swayde wakes up early after a long day of moving into a new town. She hurries to get ready to open the convenience store on the corner she recently purchased so she can meet the demands of the rush-to-work crowd. She hopes that business will be good enough that she can support her goldfish habit. She's heard about Mee-Mee's world famous eclairs and can't wait to try one.

There's not much to go on so far. I know it will most likely make me look suspicious, but I did warn ya'll in the sign-up thread that I will not be able to post nearly as much as I have in the past, nor at all hours of the day. I'm going to do my best though to help the town out. I'd hate to see all of my hard earned money from the store taken away by crooks aka mafia =)

[Swayde]

Ice walks out to see the the lunar eclipse, there is a small crowd of ACvillians gathered at the Bala statue. Unfortunately its a bit overcast


Not much to see in here either, hopefully it will get buzzing this afternoon and evening. Nothing to go on yet but I might take a page from Jl, he votes for the 1st role player I might vote for the last to post. Don't be the last one guys!


It was clear skies here. My son and I woke up at 5am to see the beginning of the lunar eclipse and kept peeking at it to watch the progress. We even got to see a shooting star =)

[charlie_stubbs]

Swayde wakes up early after a long day of moving into a new town. She hurries to get ready to open the convenience store on the corner she recently purchased so she can meet the demands of the rush-to-work crowd. She hopes that business will be good enough that she can support her goldfish habit. She's heard about Mee-Mee's world famous eclairs and can't wait to try one.

There's not much to go on so far. I know it will most likely make me look suspicious, but I did warn ya'll in the sign-up thread that I will not be able to post nearly as much as I have in the past, nor at all hours of the day. I'm going to do my best though to help the town out. I'd hate to see all of my hard earned money from the store taken away by crooks aka mafia =)
Why are you saying this again??? These types of posts are red flags for me. It doesnt matter how many posts you make. What matters is if your posts are helpful or not. In fact i'm more suspicious of people that post alot, but don't help much, than i am of those that post little and don't help much.

[ZSandmann]

DangerDoll is the only person who has not posted.

[charlie_stubbs]

she last posted yesterday at 5:12pm in General Freshwater

[charlie_stubbs]

Charlie locks his door and heads to his hair salon. With an abscence of customers in these Dark Days he considers adopting a stray dog from Sandy's pound. He will need an exotic long haired breed so he can practice haircuts on it. If he has to be a hairdresser, Charlie wants to be a good one.

[Dangerdoll]

sorry folks, I was not online last night and I am off to a meeting. Will post as soon as I get back....

[Sploke]

Sploke meets the new morning with optimism. He got a few nice orders of fish in last night, and is excited to meet some of the new residents of AC and chat fish. He moseys on down the sidewalk, stops for a quick bite in the pastry shop next door, then heads across the street to get a haircut before he opens up shop for the day.

[ZSandmann]

Hmmm, is this the quickest all players have ever posted on Day 1?

Sandy puts on his funny white dogcatcher's hat and his best white overalls, grabs his catchin' pole and heads out the door with a Thermos of joe. It's going to be one of those long ACville days where you could swear night comes and goes several times. Must be the heat.

[Madcrawdad]

Why are you saying this again??? These types of posts are red flags for me. It doesnt matter how many posts you make. What matters is if your posts are helpful or not. In fact i'm more suspicious of people that post alot, but don't help much, than i am of those that post little and don't help much.

Yep...a couple of folks said something about time constraints in the signup. Why bring it up again, though, in this thread, when nobody had even called her on it? Laying the groundwork after receiving her role assignment, perhaps?

[Lady G]

Lady G wakes and pours a nice strong cup of coffee. As she sips her morning coffee loaded with Toffy Nut cream she remembers Sploke is suppose to get a new shipment of fish in today. She has been itchin to start a new tank and since she stopped getting fish in at wal-mart, heads out the door to check out what Sploke got in.

Had about 20sec. before I had to get in the shower and head to work so I thought I'd check in and see if anything has come up...nope, nada, nothing. Be back on after work and supper:D

[Dangerdoll]

DD finally wakes after a long sleep, knowing that today is the day she is determined to get her flower shop back on it's feet. She's tired of having to pay off those mafia who have been desecrating the town into something she thought could never happen. Oh we fought hard to keep our ACville as a place where folks would look forward to visiting but that darned mafia still tries their slimeball tactics to make it there's. Never will it happen! Not in my book! She walks out, picks up the paper on her way to the shop and stops in her tracks..... no.... it can't be..... they are trying again, and 2 different teams this time..... she hurries to her shop...

[joander123]

ok guys, im off to get a coffee now, then i should be around a little later. Game seems to be slow moving like usual. Good to see everybody has posted now, that was fast =)

[johnlarson66]

Not much to see in here either, hopefully it will get buzzing this afternoon and evening. Nothing to go on yet but I might take a page from Jl, he votes for the 1st role player I might vote for the last to post. Don't be the last one guys!

My first game (game 2), that is what I did. It did not go over real well, so I switched to the first to role play. Plus if you have some non-posters who do you vote for?

[Sploke]

How bout we vote for YOU?!

:D

[wataugachicken]

i'm going to vote for the third one to post after the first person to claim innocence.

[johnlarson66]

How bout we vote for YOU?!

:D

I do not think I have made until the end of a game without being lynched or hit.

[jpappy789]

I am going to vote for the first person who...ok this is stupid

[jpappy789]

I do not think I have made until the end of a game without being lynched or hit.

Me either...whenever I was innocent I was lynched or hit by the hunter, and twice it was because I wasn't around to defend myself...and the other times, I was mafia/rebel so I was obviously lynched because they have never won in any games I've played...

[ZSandmann]

My voting strategy for Day 1 has always been to look for somw kind of flaw in logic. I've been mostly successful although the person I usually vote for is rarely the one the rest of the town wants to agree on. I just don't like the "Day 1 is random" line of thought. There are always hints at peoples character if you go back and read past games knowing the players' roles.

Also, early is better in my mind as it leaves more time for discussion. That said I'll toss out an early suggestion in hopes of increasing discussion. Last night when I was posting lists of who had yet to post I noticed people appeared in clusters. jpappy, joander, Mad, and sploke were one. Plantling, DC, Lady, and Sway were the other. Of course I have no expectations that these folks are all Mafia, it was just an observation.

[Sploke]

I think Z just cracked the case :D

[Dangerdoll]

it's a pretty good observation yet being this early in the game, it's impossible to say whether it is the be all...... BUT it is an interesting start.

[jpappy789]

My voting strategy for Day 1 has always been to look for somw kind of flaw in logic. I've been mostly successful although the person I usually vote for is rarely the one the rest of the town wants to agree on. I just don't like the "Day 1 is random" line of thought. There are always hints at peoples character if you go back and read past games knowing the players' roles.

Also, early is better in my mind as it leaves more time for discussion. That said I'll toss out an early suggestion in hopes of increasing discussion. Last night when I was posting lists of who had yet to post I noticed people appeared in clusters. jpappy, joander, Mad, and sploke were one. Plantling, DC, Lady, and Sway were the other. Of course I have no expectations that these folks are all Mafia, it was just an observation.

joander posted waaay before me, mad, or sploke

and lady didn't post until very early this morning along with sway who posted an hour after her...

interesting observation but way too early to go on any of this...

[wataugachicken]

Chicken has had a horrible morning so far. First, she overslept. Then the car started to make a noise on the drive over to the ice cream shop. Finally, when she got there, the front window had been broken! She hurriedly unlocked the door and went inside, trying to find out what had happened. As she calls the police to report the damage, she spies a large rock underneath one of the tables. Thankfully it didn't hit any of the ice cream coolers, but there is glass everywhere. After finishing up with the police and calling a glazier, she starts cleaning up. "Hope nobody wants ice cream for lunch today" she thinks.

[Swayde]

I'm not seeing anything that really jumps out at me screaming mafia yet. I don't even have any hunches or anything =( Where is DP when ya need him!!??

Unless something happens to change my mind I'll probably vote for Hooked Newbie because he picked on Doogie and I think Doogie is cute :P

We still have over 24 hours to read posts and try to come up with something so I'm not going to submit an actual vote yet.

[ZSandmann]

I think Z just cracked the case :D

That's all I get? You have to address it at least in a full sentence. Still mad I figured you out so early last round. :D


joander posted waaay before me, mad, or sploke

and lady didn't post until very early this morning along with sway who posted an hour after her...

interesting observation but way too early to go on any of this...

Valid points. I didn't look at timestamps only order and frequency.

[jpappy789]

Dang, this game is going slow. I am seriously considering voting for someone using a random number generator. Maybe someone will see a vote for them without reading my explanantion, tweak, become defesive, and then slip up or something...dumb idea but it's all I got...I could be this games joander

[Sploke]

lol where is charlie? I expected at least 40 or 50 posts from him by now.

[jpappy789]

He posted a lot last night. Sir Charles Stubbs, where art thou?

[Sploke]

So the Thief is like the Vigilante...only 1 theft per game..is that it...


sort of, but a little different. the theif can stop a hit or lynch from going through, not kill anyone. like a backwards vig.

[jpappy789]

We still have A LOT of time to get this game going but dang, where is everybody!?

[Sploke]

Seems like with 48 hour days, people don't get into it as much until a few hours before nightfall, i.e. tomorrow afternoon.

[Sploke]

edit - double post

[jpappy789]

sigh, and I will be gone most of tomorrow so I will miss all the action...

[Madcrawdad]

Swayde seems a little out of character to me. Charlie said that her earlier post regarding her availability for posting was suspicious, I agreed. I really expected that this would at least get the ball rolling...it didn't. Swayde posted later that she still didn't see anything that really stuck out to her.

Remember a few games back (Mafia 5 maybe?) when Swayde played an innocent? Anybody who looked on her with any suspicion practically got swore at and spit upon. Now nothing. :)

Is Swayde mellowing with age, or just keeping a lower profile for some reason?

[jpappy789]

I was looking at her posts as well mad...and I actually got her name using a random number generator...odd? lol

[charlie_stubbs]

Charlie returns to his modest home after a long day at the hair salon. His only customer today was Sploke, who didnt speak much, and tipped even less!! Charlie decides it time to stop being afraid of the mafia scumbags who are ruining his town, and make a stand.

[charlie_stubbs]

Swayde seems a little out of character to me. Charlie said that her earlier post regarding her availability for posting was suspicious, I agreed. I really expected that this would at least get the ball rolling...it didn't. Swayde posted later that she still didn't see anything that really stuck out to her.

Remember a few games back (Mafia 5 maybe?) when Swayde played an innocent? Anybody who looked on her with any suspicion practically got swore at and spit upon. Now nothing. :)

Is Swayde mellowing with age, or just keeping a lower profile for some reason?
This is troubling to me, and i agree after posting it in the sign-up repeating it seems like the groundwork of a future defense. Sway you are acting odd methinks.....

[Swayde]

Swayde seems a little out of character to me. Charlie said that her earlier post regarding her availability for posting was suspicious, I agreed. I really expected that this would at least get the ball rolling...it didn't. Swayde posted later that she still didn't see anything that really stuck out to her.

Remember a few games back (Mafia 5 maybe?) when Swayde played an innocent? Anybody who looked on her with any suspicion practically got swore at and spit upon. Now nothing. :)

Is Swayde mellowing with age, or just keeping a lower profile for some reason?


I got jumped all over for being defensive in my first game, so I stopped worrying about wild accusations with no proof. It's pretty pointless to try to argue when there is nothing there to begin with =) If I tell ya'll I am innocent, I will most likely get called a liar, so really I am damned if I do, damned if I don't and so I'd rather just pay attention to the details and see if I can catch anyone doing anything suspicious since the only person I can trust is myself and I know that I am most definitely not mafia.

Not much else to do/say at this point. I apparently inherited a convenience store to run, so less time I can spend with my goldfish pond =/ I would love an eclair, or a dozen from Mee-Mee's bakery =) If anyone needs a snack, gas, or even a Slurpee, feel free to stop by my S-Mart Convenience Store!

[jpappy789]

The thing is Sway, you said you wouldn't be posting a lot before anybody even questioned you. I agree with Charlie, maybe a cover for future plans...and you keep repeatedly stating that "there isn't anything there" or "nothing is jumping out at you"...why in every post? I think it's pretty obvious this early in the game...maybe trying to play the innocent who is looking hard but just can't seem to find anything...?

[charlie_stubbs]

So technically only one real vote and that's a given by jl...wow, gotta love night 1
The game is two hours old. There are 40 posts. Yet you seem eager to find a parking spot for your vote.

Lalala...

Probably going to bed soon, but I may sneek on later tonight, if not early in the morning...I gotta condition myself for when school starts...ugh!
Or condition us to believe your going to bed early to prepare for school.

I am going to vote for the first person who...ok this is stupid
Hmmmmm...after last posting you might "sneak" back in last night, or early today you don't post again until 11:30am. I think you were sneaking alright. Just not here.

joander posted waaay before me, mad, or sploke

and lady didn't post until very early this morning along with sway who posted an hour after her...

interesting observation but way too early to go on any of this...
can this post be defined as "being defensive"?....

Dang, this game is going slow. I am seriously considering voting for someone using a random number generator. Maybe someone will see a vote for them without reading my explanantion, tweak, become defesive, and then slip up or something...dumb idea but it's all I got...I could be this games joander
Isn't that Z just did to you in the previous post???

I was looking at her posts as well mad...and I actually got her name using a random number generator...odd? lol
Now we get to Happy Pappy. Finally someone to park your vote on. Is she innocent??? Probably not. Is she on your team?? Definately not.

[Hooked Newbie]

I got jumped all over for being defensive in my first game, so I stopped worrying about wild accusations with no proof. It's pretty pointless to try to argue when there is nothing there to begin with =) If I tell ya'll I am innocent, I will most likely get called a liar, so really I am damned if I do, damned if I don't and so I'd rather just pay attention to the details and see if I can catch anyone doing anything suspicious since the only person I can trust is myself and I know that I am most definitely not mafia.

Not much else to do/say at this point. I apparently inherited a convenience store to run, so less time I can spend with my goldfish pond =/ I would love an eclair, or a dozen from Mee-Mee's bakery =) If anyone needs a snack, gas, or even a Slurpee, feel free to stop by my S-Mart Convenience Store!

You made the observation and then in the same paragraph, did exactly that. Not calling you a liar, just making an observation. I'd love a slurpee though, I miss them. We don't have 7-11s down here.

The only good thing about how slow this game is so far is that it was pretty easy to catch up after work. This is the only post that really looked the least bit odd on first read, but I'm going to read back again. I'm curious about the "grouping of posts" that Z noted. If there is a closer parallel with timestamps taken into account, it could be a good start considering there's not much info out there yet.

[jpappy789]

Wow Charlie, reaching there...first post was pretty mcuh me thinking out loud, but you caught me I ended up staying up late because I couldn't sleep so therefore I slept-in instead...I already stated why I corrected Z, I wasn't being defensive, and he admitted to his mistake...with the whole number generator thing, jl votes for first roleplayer, why can't I have some fun with my first vote? I also stated it was a pretty dumb idea, but an idea nonetheless...

[IceH2O]

Swayde wakes up early after a long day of moving into a new town. She hurries to get ready to open the convenience store on the corner she recently purchased so she can meet the demands of the rush-to-work crowd. She hopes that business will be good enough that she can support her goldfish habit. She's heard about Mee-Mee's world famous eclairs and can't wait to try one.

There's not much to go on so far. I know it will most likely make me look suspicious, but I did warn ya'll in the sign-up thread that I will not be able to post nearly as much as I have in the past, nor at all hours of the day. I'm going to do my best though to help the town out. I'd hate to see all of my hard earned money from the store taken away by crooks aka mafia =)

This also struck me as strange. I know people do it in the sign up thread IN CASE they get the mafia role so they won't seem as suspicious when they don't post. But then to repeat it after roles are given out, its almost like posting I'm innocent don't lynch me.

I was thinking all day about the NEW and OLD mafia. When I ran my game nothing about the roles were random, I handpicked each and every person for what I thought would make a good game.

If Rb did the same then the NEW mafia could be players that haven't played as much, since none of us are really new.
These would include: Sway Joander Lady G Deputy Sploke as possible new mafia. With Sways "post" I'm throwing my suspicion that way and could be voting for her today.

OLD mafia could be the people that have played in all of the games or most of them. That list would include KOTD DD Charlie Mad Mee mee. They have played in almost every game. DD is one that I wouldn't mind voting for either. While she barely helps the town out with lists and observations she always seems to stick around. Plus when she has been mafia she has been really good at it. I don't feel comfortable keeping her around. If she was known to help, like Mad, I wouldn't have any qualms with keeping her.

Whats your guys thoughts? Am I reaching or do you think this idea has some substance?
Even if the idea is a little left field what about we discuss Sway and DD? How do you feel about the way they play? Are they assets to us?

[IceH2O]

Ice looks at his schedule, he sees that he has a black tie affair coming up with the NFL commissioner, he looks at his Tuxedo and decides it needs to go to the dry cleaners. Can't get a team when we aren't putting out our best impression. Ice hopes that the town gets the mafia problem taken care of before the meeting. Don't think the NFL wants the mafia controlling the football revenue.

[jpappy789]

This also struck me as strange. I know people do it in the sign up thread IN CASE they get the mafia role so they won't seem as suspicious when they don't post. But then to repeat it after roles are given out, its almost like posting I'm innocent don't lynch me.

I was thinking all day about the NEW and OLD mafia. When I ran my game nothing about the roles were random, I handpicked each and every person for what I thought would make a good game.

If Rb did the same then the NEW mafia could be players that haven't played as much, since none of us are really new.
These would include: Sway Joander Lady G Deputy Sploke as possible new mafia. With Sways "post" I'm throwing my suspicion that way and could be voting for her today.

OLD mafia could be the people that have played in all of the games or most of them. That list would include KOTD DD Charlie Mad Mee mee. They have played in almost every game. DD is one that I wouldn't mind voting for either. While she barely helps the town out with lists and observations she always seems to stick around. Plus when she has been mafia she has been really good at it. I don't feel comfortable keeping her around. If she was known to help, like Mad, I wouldn't have any qualms with keeping her.

Whats your guys thoughts? Am I reaching or do you think this idea has some substance?
Even if the idea is a little left field what about we discuss Sway and DD? How do you feel about the way they play? Are they assets to us?

I would conisder this reaching a tad bit too far, but it is still something to consider.

As for your observations on DD. It would be a good vote, but we could end up lynching a townies power-role, and this early in the game is not good.

Sway has me confused...if I recall, when she was seer in the ww game she was very, very, very gung-ho, even from the beginning. Now if she is an innocent, I don't see any reason why she should change her gameplay... maybe some mafia jitters?

[IceH2O]

Well since there is so much suspicion but no body is manning up to throw a vote that way I guess I'll start, but dammit don't go holding it over my head if we're wrong.

I vote to lynch Sway

[Swayde]

I would conisder this reaching a tad bit too far, but it is still something to consider.

As for your observations on DD. It would be a good vote, but we could end up lynching a townies power-role, and this early in the game is not good.

Sway has me confused...if I recall, when she was seer in the ww game she was very, very, very gung-ho, even from the beginning. Now if she is an innocent, I don't see any reason why she should change her gameplay... maybe some mafia jitters?


Or maybe because there aren't many posts made yet...I haven't seen anyone lurking for 2-3 hours without a single post and then have them abruptly disappear when I call them out on it like DP did. And maybe because, correct me if I am wrong, but there are 9 innocents, 8 mafia and we lose if we get tied with the mafia so a lynching of an innocent on the first night and a hit on an innocent on the first night could actually end the game, so I want to feel as sure as possible as I can to vote on someone.

[Swayde]

I meant to say we lose if the mafia outnumber us, which is VERY possible if we lynch an Innocent, and the Mafia hits an Innocent.

[jpappy789]

I don't think that's how the game works...last game we started out half and half but with two rebel teams so they can't really control the lynching. I think it is when the one mafia team left is tied with the innocents.

[jpappy789]

Ok, didn't see your last post.

[mee-mee]

MeeMee has just closed up shop for the day. And she went over to Lady G's WalMart to get some stuff for her pastries and eclairs and croissants she has to make for the next day. When she went to the store she saw Z running like a madman around the parking lot trying to catch a stray dog, and thought it was funny to watch. And she saw something black out of the corner of her eye lurking around the corner of the WalMart, but she turned to look and the black object was gone. Like it was never there in the first place and it gave her chills and she ran into Lady G's store real quick.

MeeMee decided to stop at Chas' hair salon to make an appointment for the following day, but he had already shut down the shop for the day. So she decides to go to the new fish store next door to her shop to see what kind of fish the owner has. For she was thinking of starting up her 450 gallon aquarium again.

[jpappy789]

Haha mee-mee, you changed your avatar twice now!

Anyways, sway will most likely get my vote but of course this could change by the next time I post, which will be probably tomorrow but maybe tonight, who knows? Not me...and I am still hesitant to vote this early, but if it gets the game rolling...?

[joander123]

just got home guys, i've caught up for the most part, but im missing the reason why ice voted swayde?

[Swayde]

just got home guys, i've caught up for the most part, but im missing the reason why ice voted swayde?

Maybe he's scared I might "see" the real him lol.

[Rbishop]

I apologize for not posting a bit clearer in the game mechanics.

The Innocents win, when they lynch all Mafia, both the Old team and the New Team.

The Mafia teams are independent of one another. Either Mafia Team can win, if their Mafia Team out numbers the innocents.

If Old Mafia (OM) = 3, and
New Mafia (NM) =1, and
the Innocents = 2,

the Old Mafia win.

[Rbishop]

Thru post #105...

to lynch....

Zsand (1) by jl66 12

Sawy (1) by Ice 96

Game Day 1 Nightfall at 9 PM EST Wed 08/29

[IceH2O]

just got home guys, i've caught up for the most part, but im missing the reason why ice voted swayde?


How do you not see it? There are like 5 posts pointing out her stating that she will be not around much and posting less, yet I see she hasn't really posted any less IMO. I'm just the only one that decide to vote, the others just acted like they wanted to vote. I was just looking to see what she has to say and who came to her rescue for the most part.

Protecting a team member Jo? Did I get right? The NEW mafia list looks more and more promising.

Its the 1st day, we can't just sit around and hope we find a solid lead. We have to take chances, and so far I feel pretty good about my vote now.

[charlie_stubbs]

Maybe he's scared I might "see" the real him lol.
is this a subtle attempt to deflect votes by implying you might be the detective again?

[charlie_stubbs]

Sway here is the prob. people that say they're "busy" in the sign up thread must mean no internet access at work. i can relate to this, as i have none as well. but, many (Ice, RB, myself) post before and after work. It seems like it's an obvious setup for a mob operation later on, and you were the first to repeat that in this thread.

[charlie_stubbs]

i vote to lynch swayde

[charlie_stubbs]

Zsandman very quiet today....laying low Z???

[ZSandmann]

Hi Townies!
Glad to see we are still in discussion on these cluster posts that keep popping up. I noticed it in other games before but this game has been full of them. No one will post for hours then suddenly two or three folks post within a few minutes of one another. Like a meeting just let out. I see where folks are leaning on Swayde for the "light posting" scheme. I'll admit I did that very thing the game I was the Detective. I said in the sign up thread that I would be busy that week in anticipation of maybe getting a role. Also, we have this Charlie vs. jpappy rivalry going. Implies to me they are either on opposite sides or staging a fight for distancing, but charlie seems too good to do that on day 1. And jo is another I'm watching as he seems to want to accuse Ice for his early vote, but Ice explained why he was doing it. So if jo has "caught up" why does he need to ask for a reason?

[ZSandmann]

Zsandman very quiet today....laying low Z???

Nope I just work 7-5. I posted a few times on coffee break this morning. :D

[Dangerdoll]

The game is two hours old. There are 40 posts. Yet you seem eager to find a parking spot for your vote.

Or condition us to believe your going to bed early to prepare for school.

Hmmmmm...after last posting you might "sneak" back in last night, or early today you don't post again until 11:30am. I think you were sneaking alright. Just not here.

can this post be defined as "being defensive"?....

Isn't that Z just did to you in the previous post???

Now we get to Happy Pappy. Finally someone to park your vote on. Is she innocent??? Probably not. Is she on your team?? Definately not.

Charlie's point caught my eye here. Seems as everyone was discussing sway and out of nowhere comes charlie. Charlie, are you simply throwing ideas out or are you trying to take the heat of sway?


This also struck me as strange. I know people do it in the sign up thread IN CASE they get the mafia role so they won't seem as suspicious when they don't post. But then to repeat it after roles are given out, its almost like posting I'm innocent don't lynch me.

I was thinking all day about the NEW and OLD mafia. When I ran my game nothing about the roles were random, I handpicked each and every person for what I thought would make a good game.

If Rb did the same then the NEW mafia could be players that haven't played as much, since none of us are really new.
These would include: Sway Joander Lady G Deputy Sploke as possible new mafia. With Sways "post" I'm throwing my suspicion that way and could be voting for her today.

OLD mafia could be the people that have played in all of the games or most of them. That list would include KOTD DD Charlie Mad Mee mee. They have played in almost every game. DD is one that I wouldn't mind voting for either. While she barely helps the town out with lists and observations she always seems to stick around. Plus when she has been mafia she has been really good at it. I don't feel comfortable keeping her around. If she was known to help, like Mad, I wouldn't have any qualms with keeping her.

Whats your guys thoughts? Am I reaching or do you think this idea has some substance?
Even if the idea is a little left field what about we discuss Sway and DD? How do you feel about the way they play? Are they assets to us?
I would say you are definitely reaching, Ice.... you want to take me out simply because I make you nervous? The same can be said about you because of how well you give your gameplay but I would rather wait and see if there are suspicions on you first. As far as helping the town, I do help and I offer my reasons in my lists. But because they are not as indepth as you'd like them to be doesn't mean they are not helpful....

[Hooked Newbie]

I agree that as of right now Swayde is suspect, but I'm concerned about an overwhelming train forming that would negate any more info. At this point I'm a bit curious about jpappy and Jo. Jpappy for nothing more than a feeling (and, no I'm not pulling a CL) his posts just seem to be in odd "clusters". Jo, because to be caught up and miss the reason for Ice's vote seems very odd. That has been the focus of most of the actual non-chit chat converation. To keep discussions going....

I vote to lynch Joander.

[joander123]

sorry ice, i just didnt see the reason. I wasnt disagreeing with it. In my mind it makes sense, as if swayde isnt going to be around much then she wont be able to help the town much. I like the thinking, especially for a first vote. But i dont think that im ready to vote for swayde quite yet simply because of those reasons.

[joander123]

I agree that as of right now Swayde is suspect, but I'm concerned about an overwhelming train forming that would negate any more info. At this point I'm a bit curious about jpappy and Jo. Jpappy for nothing more than a feeling (and, no I'm not pulling a CL) his posts just seem to be in odd "clusters". Jo, because to be caught up and miss the reason for Ice's vote seems very odd. That has been the focus of most of the actual non-chit chat converation. To keep discussions going....

I vote to lynch Joander.


i should try to clarify, not so much completely caught my self up, just more skimmer over things and looked for votes and lists and what not. I saw the vote, and was just looking to get some clarification on the reasoning.

[charlie_stubbs]

Danger im just throwing out ideas, but jappy's early posts have me a little edgy. Are you implying that i'm trying to take heat off sway? quite the contrary. i am voting to keep the heat on her.

[IceH2O]

sorry ice, i just didnt see the reason. I wasnt disagreeing with it. In my mind it makes sense, as if swayde isnt going to be around much then she wont be able to help the town much. I like the thinking, especially for a first vote. But i dont think that im ready to vote for swayde quite yet simply because of those reasons.

Wow I wasn't saying that at all.

Sway posted in the sign up thread that she wouldn't be posting much. People do that in case they get a mafia role so they can lay low.

Sway then reiterated that she wasn't going to be around much in the game thread. Again reminding us she would be laying low, did she get the mafia role?

Saying you're going to be laying low is almost the same as posting you're an innocent. A red flag type post.

I'm not the only one to poiint it out. Actually Charlie or Mad was 1st, I just decided that you only get answers through actions. I acted ,responses are coming in.

[ZSandmann]

sorry ice, i just didnt see the reason. I wasnt disagreeing with it. In my mind it makes sense, as if swayde isnt going to be around much then she wont be able to help the town much. I like the thinking, especially for a first vote. But i dont think that im ready to vote for swayde quite yet simply because of those reasons.

But the reasoning was in the post he made right before the vote?

[Dangerdoll]

Danger im just throwing out ideas, but jappy's early posts have me a little edgy. Are you implying that i'm trying to take heat off sway? quite the contrary. i am voting to keep the heat on her.
Charlie, how is pointing out issues on Jpappy keeping the heat on sway? And no, I am not defending pappy in any way, I am merely trying to understand where your head is at.

[IceH2O]

Charlie's point caught my eye here. Seems as everyone was discussing sway and out of nowhere comes charlie. Charlie, are you simply throwing ideas out or are you trying to take the heat of sway?


I would say you are definitely reaching, Ice.... you want to take me out simply because I make you nervous? The same can be said about you because of how well you give your gameplay but I would rather wait and see if there are suspicions on you first. As far as helping the town, I do help and I offer my reasons in my lists. But because they are not as indepth as you'd like them to be doesn't mean they are not helpful....


Not so much nervous, I said uncomfortable. You are a hard read and the longer you are around the harder it gets to read your actions. You post enough to stay in sight but just enough to stay out of the limelight.

It was more of a discuss you post, to see how others felt about you.

I feel more strongly on Sway and Jo then I do you. But even those feelings are slight this early.

[charlie_stubbs]

Charlie, how is pointing out issues on Jpappy keeping the heat on sway? And no, I am not defending pappy in any way, I am merely trying to understand where your head is at.
i have pointed out my suspicions of sway and voted for her. how much more heat can i put on her??? should i stop looking for suspects now?? sounds like your trying to take heat off someone danger, while accusing me of it...hmmmmm...welcome to my suspect list

[Dangerdoll]

I wasn't talking about who you voted for, only on the post about pappy is all.

No, you shouldn't stop looking for suspects but maybe a lead in or something to show that ok, the heat is on sway but you are also considering another at this time. No, you just jump right in making it look like you are dismissing the idea.

and that last sentence ties the know on my list for you charlie, hehehe we really should stop meeting like this :D

[ZSandmann]

Did anyone else see jl lurking for about 30 minutes and he never posted? That's why I wish everyone was invisible, one less thing for me to have to overanalyze. :D

[mee-mee]

I would consider Swayde but some do have legitimate reasons for not posting as much...even though we all do say that at one time or another...and it does end up leading to a train started on some...

[ZSandmann]

Did anyone else see jl lurking for about 30 minutes and he never posted? That's why I wish everyone was invisible, one less thing for me to have to overanalyze. :D

Guess not... tough crowd.

[IceH2O]

Did anyone else see jl lurking for about 30 minutes and he never posted? That's why I wish everyone was invisible, one less thing for me to have to overanalyze. :D

LOL Sorry was watching the Big Brother girls on Power of 10.

Yeah I saw him on earlier, though I'd come back to a post by him too


I would consider Swayde but some do have legitimate reasons for not posting as much...even though we all do say that at one time or another...and it does end up leading to a train started on some...

But the point mee mee is that she had already said it, there was no reason to resay (is that a word) it in the game thread unless she is hiding something. She went out of her way to make sure we knew she was going to be a low poster.

[joander123]

yeah, i agree ice. I have re-read and i guess things just didnt click exactly before. I see your point about swayde, and it is a valid one indeed. It is like she is making it a point to make sure everyone knows she wont be around much this game.

I would consider a vote for swayde, but im going to hold off for a short time just to make sure no one who deserves a vote more pops up.

[ZSandmann]

About to go watch Eureka, not much to report but...

Day 1 twilight will be at 8 PM CST Wednesday, 08/29.
4/17 Votes
1-Zsandmann: johnlarson66 (12)
2-Swayde: IceH2O (96) Charlie_Stubbs (110)
1-Joander123: Hooked Newbie (115)

[plantling]

I got jumped all over for being defensive in my first game, so I stopped worrying about wild accusations with no proof. It's pretty pointless to try to argue when there is nothing there to begin with =) If I tell ya'll I am innocent, I will most likely get called a liar, so really I am damned if I do, damned if I don't and so I'd rather just pay attention to the details and see if I can catch anyone doing anything suspicious since the only person I can trust is myself and I know that I am most definitely not mafia.

Not much else to do/say at this point. I apparently inherited a convenience store to run, so less time I can spend with my goldfish pond =/ I would love an eclair, or a dozen from Mee-Mee's bakery =) If anyone needs a snack, gas, or even a Slurpee, feel free to stop by my S-Mart Convenience Store!

Hasn't the above line been used by Mafia under pressure before? And not only that but I also agree that her repetition of being busy in the thread seems like something Mafia would do to coverup their underground activities. And saying that you're not gonna say you're innocent then saying you're not Mafia in the same sentence just seems kinda contradictory. My gut feelings usually don't kick in until the game is underway, but this to me is sending off some alarm bells. Therefore, I vote to lynch Swayde.

Subject to change if a more promising candidate appears before nightfall.

Others I found peculiar were DD and JPappy.

[johnlarson66]

Did anyone else see jl lurking for about 30 minutes and he never posted? That's why I wish everyone was invisible, one less thing for me to have to overanalyze. :D

I am not going to go the invisible route, I have explained this before. No reason to change now. I will not go invisible and if people want to catch me in a PM so be it. Everytime I have been mafia I have posted on a forum unrelated to this site. I have not PM'ed any of my co-mafia in the past. The judgemax PM technic will also catch power roles. So I am not going to go invisible.

"Lurking without posting" - is that a hanging offense?

I really have nothing to add to the thread right now. I am not going to role play.

Also, does anyone have trouble reading the "colored" posts?

[Hooked Newbie]

yeah, i agree ice. I have re-read and i guess things just didnt click exactly before. I see your point about swayde, and it is a valid one indeed. It is like she is making it a point to make sure everyone knows she wont be around much this game.

I would consider a vote for swayde, but im going to hold off for a short time just to make sure no one who deserves a vote more pops up.

You seem to have quickly rethought things and back peddled a bit since seeing your name in bold. Kinda suspicious to me. Vote stands. Of course open to change if a solid case is made for someone else.

[mee-mee]

LOL Sorry was watching the Big Brother girls on Power of 10.

Yeah I saw him on earlier, though I'd come back to a post by him too



But the point mee mee is that she had already said it, there was no reason to resay (is that a word) it in the game thread unless she is hiding something. She went out of her way to make sure we knew she was going to be a low poster.

Like when I posted repeatedly about the 10v10 or 50-50 or whatever else I said for (i think it was mad or even z in last game) about me saying the same thing over and over again..okay, and yes resay is a word...

[ZSandmann]

Swayde wakes up early after a long day of moving into a new town. She hurries to get ready to open the convenience store on the corner she recently purchased so she can meet the demands of the rush-to-work crowd. She hopes that business will be good enough that she can support her goldfish habit. She's heard about Mee-Mee's world famous eclairs and can't wait to try one.

There's not much to go on so far. I know it will most likely make me look suspicious, but I did warn ya'll in the sign-up thread that I will not be able to post nearly as much as I have in the past, nor at all hours of the day. I'm going to do my best though to help the town out. I'd hate to see all of my hard earned money from the store taken away by crooks aka mafia =)


I got jumped all over for being defensive in my first game, so I stopped worrying about wild accusations with no proof. It's pretty pointless to try to argue when there is nothing there to begin with =) If I tell ya'll I am innocent, I will most likely get called a liar, so really I am damned if I do, damned if I don't and so I'd rather just pay attention to the details and see if I can catch anyone doing anything suspicious since the only person I can trust is myself and I know that I am most definitely not mafia.

Not much else to do/say at this point. I apparently inherited a convenience store to run, so less time I can spend with my goldfish pond =/ I would love an eclair, or a dozen from Mee-Mee's bakery =) If anyone needs a snack, gas, or even a Slurpee, feel free to stop by my S-Mart Convenience Store!
I was looking at Sway's posts more closely and noticed a discrepency in her roleplay. Not much I know but they say liars get caught when they start lying about pointless things as a side effect of being nervous.

For now I vote to lynch Swayde,

Eureka time, bbl.

[joander123]

You seem to have quickly rethought things and back peddled a bit since seeing your name in bold. Kinda suspicious to me. Vote stands. Of course open to change if a solid case is made for someone else.



I just didnt look very closely the first time around, and i didnt read all of the posts, more just skimmed. Now that i have had time, i have read over the posts, and thought about what was being said more, and i do believe that it is a valid point made by Ice.

[Hooked Newbie]

I just didnt look very closely the first time around, and i didnt read all of the posts, more just skimmed. Now that i have had time, i have read over the posts, and thought about what was being said more, and i do believe that it is a valid point made by Ice.

Ok. I might be able to believe that even though the only time I "skimmed" was when I was mafia. Any suspicions of your own or just going with Ice's? Not that I disagree with his necessarily, but I think that the real townies need to keep looking and posting their own thoughts.

[IceH2O]

:iagree:

Jo the only ones that skim posts are mafia. They don't need to read posts, they know who is on their team and everyone else is fair game.

A townie wants to read read and then reread to make sure they don't vote off another townie.

Think you :footinmouth: again.

[mee-mee]

what vote do you have and what mafia slip ups...

my vote is bad, no one to vote for due to the dumb mafia slip ups (even though they dont always end up being mafia lol)

not reading all the posts

just got home guys, i've caught up for the most part, but im missing the reason why ice voted swayde?

agreeing with ice and saying it makes sense

sorry ice, i just didnt see the reason. I wasnt disagreeing with it. In my mind it makes sense, as if swayde isnt going to be around much then she wont be able to help the town much. I like the thinking, especially for a first vote. But i dont think that im ready to vote for swayde quite yet simply because of those reasons.

skimming over posts, that is why you need to read carefully

i should try to clarify, not so much completely caught my self up, just more skimmer over things and looked for votes and lists and what not. I saw the vote, and was just looking to get some clarification on the reasoning.

he agrees with ice, but no vote..everything as it says in read from him

yeah, i agree ice. I have re-read and i guess things just didnt click exactly before. I see your point about swayde, and it is a valid one indeed. It is like she is making it a point to make sure everyone knows she wont be around much this game.

I would consider a vote for swayde, but im going to hold off for a short time just to make sure no one who deserves a vote more pops up.


but still no vote if he does believe it is a valid point made by Ice...

I just didnt look very closely the first time around, and i didnt read all of the posts, more just skimmed. Now that i have had time, i have read over the posts, and thought about what was being said more, and i do believe that it is a valid point made by Ice.

I vote for Jo...

it is either one or the either, you agree or disagree. it cant be onesided and then not decide to vote for someone...

[joander123]

Actually, i skim a lot. I skim in almost all of the games, because i like to get caught up to what is currently happening as quickly as possible. Then when things slow down, i go back and read more deeply and analyze it myself.


I skimmed through to get caught caught up as quickly as possible, then i went back and re-read. After rereading it makes sense to me to have a swayde vote, at least more than anyone else at this time.

I've got to run out to the store with my brother now, as he needs to get a few things before hes off to college for the first time tomorrow morning. I should be back before too long though.

[joander123]

Just a quick response to mee-mee before i run out, The reason i havent voted yet is only because we still have at full 24 hours before night fall.

[mee-mee]

game off///
wow, I will bet he is excited and so are you...have fun shopping with him...
game on///

you need to try and read all of the posts just so you can see what is going on and what is being said..skimming isnt going to help you any at all....for there could be things said that you might miss and it doesnt help us townies if you are just going to skim and not help us out any...

[Hooked Newbie]

Actually, i skim a lot. I skim in almost all of the games, because i like to get caught up to what is currently happening as quickly as possible. Then when things slow down, i go back and read more deeply and analyze it myself.


I skimmed through to get caught caught up as quickly as possible, then i went back and re-read. After rereading it makes sense to me to have a swayde vote, at least more than anyone else at this time.

I've got to run out to the store with my brother now, as he needs to get a few things before hes off to college for the first time tomorrow morning. I should be back before too long though.

This seem odd to anyone else? "I skimmed through to get caught caught up"... Now off to the store. Did we just get a slip? Thoughts? Anyone...

[Madcrawdad]

There's not much to go on so far. I know it will most likely make me look suspicious, but I did warn ya'll in the sign-up thread that I will not be able to post nearly as much as I have in the past, nor at all hours of the day. I'm going to do my best though to help the town out. I'd hate to see all of my hard earned money from the store taken away by crooks aka mafia =)

I vote to lynch Swayde

In her quote above she admits that there's not much to go on, and she knows that this post will make her look suspicious, yet she makes it anyway. Why? Why not wait until someone says 'Man, Swayde sure ain't posting much,' to say it again? Why defend yourself before anyone even attacks?

[Dangerdoll]

I'll have to agree. Jo seems suspicious, and with typos, kinda makes one whince... but Sway, she is definitely someone with an agenda me thinks. She's speaking in the elusive Mafia tone, saying mafia quotes and thinking paranoid mafia thoughts. If it walks like a mafia, talks like a mafia... guess what...

I vote to lynch swayde

[Madcrawdad]

This seem odd to anyone else? "I skimmed through to get caught caught up"... Now off to the store. Did we just get a slip? Thoughts? Anyone...

If I've been away from the thread for awhile, and there's lots of posts when I get back, I will also quickly skim thru all of the new posts to kind of get a feel for what's been going on in the game while I was gone. As soon as I'm done skimming, though, I go back an re-read the posts and start analyzing them in greater detail. I NEVER start posting thoughts after just skimming, though...It's just a bad idea. Says to me that you might not care if you don't understand everything that people are saying; and who wouldn't care what people are saying in the thread?

[IceH2O]

This seem odd to anyone else? "I skimmed through to get caught caught up"... Now off to the store. Did we just get a slip? Thoughts? Anyone...


Really think it was just a typo, so much more stands out then that for me.



I am not going to go the invisible route, I have explained this before. No reason to change now. I will not go invisible and if people want to catch me in a PM so be it. Everytime I have been mafia I have posted on a forum unrelated to this site. I have not PM'ed any of my co-mafia in the past. The judgemax PM technic will also catch power roles. So I am not going to go invisible.

"Lurking without posting" - is that a hanging offense?

I really have nothing to add to the thread right now. I am not going to role play.

Also, does anyone have trouble reading the "colored" posts?

No its not against the law but it looks suspicious when you read but don't post. I don't think anyone looks for PMs anymore but they do look to see who is on and not posting.

Colored posts?

[ZSandmann]

Back. Glad to see the majority are in agreement this early. I can't say my mind won't change before Night but so far Sway has by far been the best suspect we've had. I was beginning to wonder where you were Mad, glad to see you giving some input, I know I always look to what you and Ice have to say in these games. I really would like to hear more from Sway but I think if she's Mafia she will clam up now so as to not further out her partners. Swayde, if you are Innocent, convince us. Still lots of time left.

[joander123]

hey guys, im home, kind of a short trip... but he found a TV pretty darn fast lol.






just got home guys, i've caught up for the most part, but im missing the reason why ice voted swayde?

There seems to be a lot of suspicion around me, and id like to try to clarify. This is the quote that started it all, and id like to explain what i meant. I had read most of the posts, but then i did happen to skim over a few and miss the reason. All i was looking for was clarification on why he was voting, that is all. I went back and re-read, and it made sense to me what he was poking at.




If I've been away from the thread for awhile, and there's lots of posts when I get back, I will also quickly skim thru all of the new posts to kind of get a feel for what's been going on in the game while I was gone. As soon as I'm done skimming, though, I go back an re-read the posts and start analyzing them in greater detail. I NEVER start posting thoughts after just skimming, though...It's just a bad idea. Says to me that you might not care if you don't understand everything that people are saying; and who wouldn't care what people are saying in the thread?


I agree mad, i shouldnt post until im fully caught up, and i am sorry for that. Next time i will make sure i am fully caught up before i post.


Ok, well im heading to bed for the night, but before i do, i vote to lynch swayde. Reasons have already been listed by others, and i agree with what has been said by them. It makes sense to me, and it seems as if she was making it a point to let everyone know she wasnt going to be around.

[ZSandmann]

Well I guess I'm heading to bed since it's quiet in here tonight. Here are the current votes I believe.

Day 1 twilight will be at 8 PM CST Wednesday, 08/29.
10/17 Votes
1-Zsandmann: johnlarson66 (12)
7-Swayde: IceH2O (96) Charlie_Stubbs (110) Plantling (131) ZSandmann (135) MadCrawdad (144) DangerDoll (145) joander123 (149)
2-Joander123: Hooked Newbie (115) Mee-Mee (139)

[DeputyChiefJR]

Ok, got home from work and read up...I do agree with the vote for Swayde...Ice has good instincts about things....Dunno if I trust him yet, but he always notices good stuff....

I also suspect:
JL - kind of defensive but "has nothing to add," is he laying low for any particular reason?

Mad & chicken - very quiet, mad's pointed out little things but often is just agreeing with thing....chicken has mostly roleplayed...loud enough to be noticed, quiet enough to stay under the radar

I always suspect CS, Ice, ZSand, and DD but mostly because they're so good at the game that it takes forever to get ANY bead on them and usually I'm wrong....lol

[DeputyChiefJR]

Oops, forgot to vote while analyzing
I vote for Swayde.

[charlie_stubbs]

I am not going to go the invisible route, I have explained this before. No reason to change now. I will not go invisible and if people want to catch me in a PM so be it. Everytime I have been mafia I have posted on a forum unrelated to this site. I have not PM'ed any of my co-mafia in the past. The judgemax PM technic will also catch power roles. So I am not going to go invisible.
This is a perilous thing to do. Over and over again suspicion has been cast on "lurkers". You say if people catch you in a PM so be it. Seems reckless to say such a thing.
"Lurking without posting" - is that a hanging offense?
Do you really want to know the answer to this???
I really have nothing to add to the thread right now. I am not going to role play.
**** shame, your very good at it. If you were to roleplay, what profession would you be?
Also, does anyone have trouble reading the "colored" posts?
yes i had trouble reading lady g's yellow posts

[DeputyChiefJR]

Hey where's KOTD been?

[charlie_stubbs]

Hey where's KOTD been?
This is an excellent question. When considering which players are "laying low", KOTD has two posts.

[jpappy789]

Hmmm well the swayde train is really leaving the station, but not before some more people hop on I'm sure...again I will most likely vote sway as well, but I would like to see their response to the numerous votes for them...I am also hesitant to jump on the train, which most likely is half mafia right now, this early in the game. No real discussion is going on. A lot of people are reiterating Charlies or Mads or Ices thoughts on swayde, with out adding anything of their own...

[Madcrawdad]

Maybe something of interest:

Here Jo explains that he hasn't voted, as we still have 24 hours til nightfall...doesn't want to rush things is how I read it.
Just a quick response to mee-mee before i run out, The reason i havent voted yet is only because we still have at full 24 hours before night fall.

A mere 47 minutes later, after having gone out to buy a TV, he's waited long enough, and is comfortable tossing a vote for Swayde.

(snip) Ok, well im heading to bed for the night, but before i do, i vote to lynch swayde. Reasons have already been listed by others, and i agree with what has been said by them. It makes sense to me, and it seems as if she was making it a point to let everyone know she wasnt going to be around.

Does it mean he's mafia? Not sure. It is pretty inconsistent in a short period of time. Maybe with all the heat coming down he figures he'd better stop 'standing out,' and get on that Swayde train fast...

[plantling]

Well I hope we're right about Swayde. It will be nice to nab a Mafia right from start. However we shouldn't be content on just one main suspect. We should keep looking as there are plenty more Mafia out there. I was wondering about KOTD also, but he's so hard to read because he posts so little as both innocent and Mafia.

[DeputyChiefJR]

I was also wondering a bit about Sploke....He's relatively quiet again...Is he always quiet? I feel like when I was watching Mafia #6 he was pretty outspoken....

[jpappy789]

Hmmm, very nice observation mad.

My list:

Swayde
joander

KOTD, wata, dd, jl- all are pretty good players who can slip under the radar pretty well, and still stay on the towns good side even when there is a little butting of heads, so to speak...

[Sploke]

Meh I come and go. Depends a lot on what else is going on. I usually have a lot of free time at work so I'll post more during the day.

ZS was making me edgy right when the game started, I think it was mostly his post about people posting in groups, which he then said he didn't actually really look at. Mafia-ish tactic to start pointing fingers at things that don't exist. ALthough I don't think I've ever seen him play a game when he's been mafia so I don't know if his style changes at all.

I'm pretty much in tune with what has been stated about Jo and swayde so far, but I want to do my own looking tomorrow. The skimming business from jo was what did it...there have definitely been games when I barely skim everything to keep up, but its always been when I was mafia.

Charlie is usally more aggressive and talkative, but I've seen him on both sides so I don't know if that means anything. Will do some more looking tomorrow.

[jpappy789]

I was also wondering a bit about Sploke....He's relatively quiet again...Is he always quiet? I feel like when I was watching Mafia #6 he was pretty outspoken....


edit: sploke posted

[charlie_stubbs]

i will be interested to read Sways next post. Jo is also tweaking on my radar, the whole skimming thing makes me nervous, as well he agrees the swayde vote makes sense, but wants to wait to vote. Wait for what? A train to get started on an innocent?? i get the idea he isnt comfortable voting for sway, but he is trying to blend in.

[KingOfTheDeep]

sorry guys, long day today

i havn't read the whole thread yet, but i have looked at swayed since there is some suspicion on here, i too agree that she is playing differently

for now

i vote to lynch swayde

subject to change if anything else comes up

[jpappy789]

sorry guys, long day today

i havn't read the whole thread yet, but i have looked at swayed since there is some suspicion on here, i too agree that she is playing differently

for now

i vote to lynch swayde

subject to change if anything else comes up

Hmmm, well I don't know why this is bothering me but something seems different about KOTD's gameplay. It has nothing to do with his post count, but this post just strikes me as odd...KOTD isn't the type of person to post a quick few sentences before he finishes reading, let alone putting a vote in the same post...I don't know why, but this doesn't seem right for KOTD. Maybe I'm reaching here, maybe I'm paranoid, but something is weird here...

[KingOfTheDeep]

Hmmm, well I don't know why this is bothering me but something seems different about KOTD's gameplay. It has nothing to do with his post count, but this post just strikes me as odd...KOTD isn't the type of person to post a quick few sentences before he finishes reading, let alone putting vote in the same post...I don't know, but this doesn't seem right for KOTD. Maybe I'm reaching here, maybe I'm paranoid, but something is weird here...

i will be at a yankee game tommorow at 12pm-4pm, after that i will be shopping around the city for a few birds, after that i may have a chance to get online..but i wanted to get my vote in just incase i miss tommorow

i'll be here everyday after, no need to worry..i'll try my best to help out like last game ;)

[jpappy789]

Ok king. It just got me thinking that's all.

[Lady G]

Hey all, I finally got to get on, wow lots of talk about swayde and Jo going on. So many more ppl stand out to me to..the ones with little no substance post they really bug me.
KOTD-only 3 post so far 1 just a I'm here kinda post, 1 comment on Z's post in the beginning, and 1 to vote to lynch swayde.
That just seems odd to me personally. I know he starts out slow but wow.
Sploke-Very few posts here, MANY on other threads. Only 1 post with anything to it. Although they were good observations in that post.
Z-struck me funny he hadn't posted in a while then CS makes that point and POOF a post from him, saying he had been at work..which very well may be the case but it was just extremely weird timing.

I hate "jumping" on trains but there are some very good points out there toward Swayde I think. They have been posted over and over so everyone knows why she looks suspicious I'm not going to re-post them all. And although I hate the early train thing, as of right now Swayde seems the best candidate so I VOTE TO LYNCH SWAYDE, This is DEFINATLY subject to change.


yes i had trouble reading lady g's yellow posts
It was Orange btw, not yellow;)


Hmmm well the swayde train is really leaving the station, but not before some more people hop on I'm sure...again I will most likely vote sway as well, but I would like to see their response to the numerous votes for them...I am also hesitant to jump on the train, which most likely is half mafia right now, this early in the game. No real discussion is going on. A lot of people are reiterating Charlies or Mads or Ices thoughts on swayde, with out adding anything of their own...

I believe because they have already posted pretty much everything, when more reasons come up I'm sure they will be posted, but as of now pretty much everything that makes her look guilty has been stated several times.

[jpappy789]

I believe because they have already posted pretty much everything, when more reasons come up I'm sure they will be posted, but as of now pretty much everything that makes her look guilty has been stated several times.

I understand that. My concern is that people have been focusing a lot on swayde, maybe too much. I think she is definitely the best suspect but there have been quite a few just couple sentence posts saying "I agree with the people who think she is suspicious so I will vote for her." And those people are the ones who are also going to be on my list, especially if she turns up innocent.

And to make sure I at least have a vote tomorrow (I just remembered what my day is going to b like...busy!)

I vote to lynch swayde

[Lady G]

I forgot to add Wata...where has she been only 4 post? NONE with any help in any way?

Lady G looks in her donation box it is getting full, maybe tomorrow she will bag all the dog food, treats, toys, and other things people have donated and take it over to Sandys pound to drop it off. Maybe even look at what dogs he has and adopt one.

[Lady G]

I understand that. My concern is that people have been focusing a lot on swayde, maybe too much. I think she is definitely the best suspect but there have been quite a few just couple sentence posts saying "I agree with the people who think she is suspicious so I will vote for her." And those people are the ones who are also going to be on my list, especially if she turns up innocent.

And to make sure I at least have a vote tomorrow (I just remembered what my day is going to b like...busy!)

I vote to lynch swayde

I agree with you 100%, that is why I have mentioned a few others I find suspicious...when everyone jumps on the same person and quickly it makes me nervous. I just wish others would add what they think of other people too. I realize it is early in the game and very hard to get a read on people but we have to start questioning/looking at EVERYONE.

[Lady G]

Just thought I'd update the tally here:

JL-Votes Z
Ice- Votes Swayde
Charlie- Votes Swayde
HN-Votes Jo
Plantling-Votes Swayde
Z-Votes Swayde
MM-Votes Jo
Mad-Votes Swayde
DD-Votes Swayde
Jo-Votes Swayde
KOTD-Votes Swayde
LadyG-Votes Swayde
Jpap-Votes Swayde

Hmmm after posting this I just realized there are only 3 ppl not voting swayde, odd coinsidence? There are 2 teams of mafia each made up of 4 right? Think we may have a Don here????

[Lady G]

Just thought I'd update the tally here:

JL-Votes Z
Ice- Votes Swayde
Charlie- Votes Swayde
HN-Votes Jo
Plantling-Votes Swayde
Z-Votes Swayde
MM-Votes Jo
Mad-Votes Swayde
DD-Votes Swayde
Jo-Votes Swayde
KOTD-Votes Swayde
LadyG-Votes Swayde
Jpap-Votes Swayde

Hmmm after posting this I just realized there are only 3 ppl not voting swayde, odd coinsidence? There are 2 teams of mafia each made up of 4 right? Think we may have a Don here????

I forgot to add 3 have not voted as of yet..Sploke, Wata, & Swayde.

[Rbishop]

I have 14 of 17 voting.....

to lynch...

swayde (11) by zsand 135 charlie 110 jpap 169 Deputy 152 plant 131

DD 145 Ice 96 Mad 144 Joander 149 Lady G 168 KOTD 164

joan (2) by Hook 115 mee-mee 139

zsand (1) by jl66

[IceH2O]

Why are you saying this again??? These types of posts are red flags for me. It doesnt matter how many posts you make. What matters is if your posts are helpful or not. In fact i'm more suspicious of people that post alot, but don't help much, than i am of those that post little and don't help much.


Yep...a couple of folks said something about time constraints in the signup. Why bring it up again, though, in this thread, when nobody had even called her on it? Laying the groundwork after receiving her role assignment, perhaps?


Swayde seems a little out of character to me. Charlie said that her earlier post regarding her availability for posting was suspicious, I agreed. I really expected that this would at least get the ball rolling...it didn't. Swayde posted later that she still didn't see anything that really stuck out to her.

Remember a few games back (Mafia 5 maybe?) when Swayde played an innocent? Anybody who looked on her with any suspicion practically got swore at and spit upon. Now nothing. :)

Is Swayde mellowing with age, or just keeping a lower profile for some reason?


This is troubling to me, and i agree after posting it in the sign-up repeating it seems like the groundwork of a future defense. Sway you are acting odd methinks.....


Well since there is so much suspicion but no body is manning up to throw a vote that way I guess I'll start, but dammit don't go holding it over my head if we're wrong.

I vote to lynch Sway


I just want to point out I wasn't the one to start this train, in case it ends up bad.

Charlie and Mad both made points about it but didn't vote till after I did. Could they be mafia? Planting the seed and seeing if anyone waters it till it grows into a tree capable of hanging a noose from?

If Sway is innocent, though she isn't exactly fighting the train, they are 2 I would look at closely.

[IceH2O]

Just thought I'd update the tally here:

JL-Votes Z
Ice- Votes Swayde
Charlie- Votes Swayde
HN-Votes Jo
Plantling-Votes Swayde
Z-Votes Swayde
MM-Votes Jo
Mad-Votes Swayde
DD-Votes Swayde
Jo-Votes Swayde
KOTD-Votes Swayde
LadyG-Votes Swayde
Jpap-Votes Swayde

Hmmm after posting this I just realized there are only 3 ppl not voting swayde, odd coinsidence? There are 2 teams of mafia each made up of 4 right? Think we may have a Don here????


I forgot to add 3 have not voted as of yet..Sploke, Wata, & Swayde.

I wouldn't read to much into votes on other people this early into the game. People like Z and HN are famous for parking their vote on someone they are pretty sure are mafia and staying there. They aren't ones to just follow to often. Jl is the same way.

Now as for the other 3, it goes back to the NEW mafia. Sway could be a Don and is trying to find a way to spread the votes so her team members aren't shown as following or distancing.Wata and Sploke are 2 I mentioned could be new mafia along with Sway. You're the 4th team member and this could be a distancing tactic.

I'm starting to think my lists have merit and I might dig a bit deeper if Sway is in fact mafia.

[Swayde]

I am really sad to see everyone so eager to turn against me. Even though I can't post much I do still take the time to keep up and read every single post and I've always proven a valuable asset to the town. I've never lied and again I tell you that I am innocent. My only role is that of a Convenience Store Owner.

Doesn't ANYONE find it the slightest bit odd that it's such a huge train on me so early in the game? That should set off red flags of every Innocent member of society. Hopefully when you lynch me you keep a close eye on the faces of the crowd to watch for the happy ones who are laughing hysterically on the inside because they fooled you all so easily.

I vote to lynch IceH20 because he's going after someone very, very relentlessly who I know is an Innocent.

[Swayde]

I just want to point out I wasn't the one to start this train, in case it ends up bad.

Charlie and Mad both made points about it but didn't vote till after I did. Could they be mafia? Planting the seed and seeing if anyone waters it till it grows into a tree capable of hanging a noose from?

If Sway is innocent, though she isn't exactly fighting the train, they are 2 I would look at closely.


Wow Ice, you sure are trying really hard to cover your *** because you know that when I am lynched and come up as Innocent people will start to look at those who were pushing the hardest, and whether you started it or not, you sure are pushing for it the loudest and hardest.

[Swayde]

I wouldn't read to much into votes on other people this early into the game. People like Z and HN are famous for parking their vote on someone they are pretty sure are mafia and staying there. They aren't ones to just follow to often. Jl is the same way.

Now as for the other 3, it goes back to the NEW mafia. Sway could be a Don and is trying to find a way to spread the votes so her team members aren't shown as following or distancing.Wata and Sploke are 2 I mentioned could be new mafia along with Sway. You're the 4th team member and this could be a distancing tactic.

I'm starting to think my lists have merit and I might dig a bit deeper if Sway is in fact mafia.


Oh and look, now Ice is trying to sow the seed of doubt so that when I show up as Innocent he can get people to believe I was a Don and not really an Innocent to take the heat off himself.

[Madcrawdad]

If Sway is innocent, though she isn't exactly fighting the train, they are 2 I would look at closely.

Exactly. Just think a few games back. I tossed a vote for Swayde on Day 1 in Mafia 5 or 6 (for a decent enough reason), and spent the rest of the game dodging rocks that she hurled my way. As an innocent, when anyone even mentioned the name 'Swayde,' she started kicking, biting, and flinging any objects within her reach. Now when Ice casts the first vote for her, she makes a little post and even ends it with an 'LOL'. That's not the Swayde I know....

[Swayde]

Exactly. Just think a few games back. I tossed a vote for Swayde on Day 1 in Mafia 5 or 6 (for a decent enough reason), and spent the rest of the game dodging rocks that she hurled my way. As an innocent, when anyone even mentioned the name 'Swayde,' she started kicking, biting, and flinging any objects within her reach. Now when Ice casts the first vote for her, she makes a little post and even ends it with an 'LOL'. That's not the Swayde I know....


Yesterday was my son's 12th birthday. I was in a great mood and I didn't have much time for posting.

[Swayde]

Yesterday was my son's 12th birthday. I was in a great mood and I didn't have much time for posting.


Oh no, she said it again. She MUST be mafia...surely she can't actually just be trying to be HONEST??!!!

[Swayde]

Exactly. Just think a few games back. I tossed a vote for Swayde on Day 1 in Mafia 5 or 6 (for a decent enough reason), and spent the rest of the game dodging rocks that she hurled my way. As an innocent, when anyone even mentioned the name 'Swayde,' she started kicking, biting, and flinging any objects within her reach. Now when Ice casts the first vote for her, she makes a little post and even ends it with an 'LOL'. That's not the Swayde I know....

Way to ignore the posts I put up....all 3 of them, right before you posted.

[charlie_stubbs]

I just want to point out I wasn't the one to start this train, in case it ends up bad.

Charlie and Mad both made points about it but didn't vote till after I did. Could they be mafia? Planting the seed and seeing if anyone waters it till it grows into a tree capable of hanging a noose from?

If Sway is innocent, though she isn't exactly fighting the train, they are 2 I would look at closely.
Here'a a post that makes me nervous. Day of the lynch, and you want to point out it was Mad and i that started all this, in case it goes bad. Makes me think you already know its going to go bad. With little to go on, Sway is the best thing i could come up with. Believe me, i understand its a thin case, but she doesn't seem to be fighting too hard to find a replacement. If a better case were made by someone i would change my vote. Others i am looking closely at:
Joander- skimming the thread, as well his odd posts especially the ones around the time he voted for sway
Jpap- seemed to wanna get his vote out early, makes me a little edgy
KOTD- what 3-4 posts now??? Is this mafia or a power role lying low??

[Madcrawdad]

Doesn't ANYONE find it the slightest bit odd that it's such a huge train on me so early in the game? That should set off red flags of every Innocent member of society.

Normally I would find such a quick-forming train a little suspect. However, with 2 competing mafia teams, I would expect the teams to try to play it 'straight town' when given a chance (ie, go with the flow to blend in with the townies, and if they help lynch a competitor it makes them look all the more 'townie'). The only problems with competing mafia, though, are 1) more mafia, obviously, 2) it allows the them to jump on trains to lynch competing mafium much earlier than in a normal game (this second one only being a problem because it makes it harder to look at a list of overall votes and analyze who might be mafia).

[Swayde]

Here'a a post that makes me nervous. Day of the lynch, and you want to point out it was Mad and i that started all this, in case it goes bad. Makes me think you already know its going to go bad. With little to go on, Sway is the best thing i could come up with. Believe me, i understand its a thin case, but she doesn't seem to be fighting too hard to find a replacement. If a better case were made by someone i would change my vote. Others i am looking closely at:
Joander- skimming the thread, as well his odd posts especially the ones around the time he voted for sway
Jpap- seemed to wanna get his vote out early, makes me a little edgy
KOTD- what 3-4 posts now??? Is this mafia or a power role lying low??


I'm not fighting back? Have you even read my posts? See this is why I told everyone I wouldn't be able to post much, because I CAN'T and I did not want that to be used against me. So much for being honest and open with people /sigh. I am an Innocent. I have read and do read every single post, many multiple times. The only case against me is what I basically brought against myself by trying to be honest. People are being very persistant and relentless to follow this train and it's not helping the town out in the least bit.

I love watching people like IceH20 try and backpeddle already. Pointing fingers elsewhere to shift the blame because he most likely knows this is going to end up badly for the people making the persistant accusations. But, with so many mafia in the game, it really doesn't surprise me at all that so many are so eager and quick to jump into a train head first without even bothering to see all the red flags going up around them.

[Madcrawdad]

Way to ignore the posts I put up....all 3 of them, right before you posted.

I wasn't ignoring anything. Unfortunately, when I'm typing a post I don't have the abilitly to see the new ones that pop up until I hit 'submit reply.'

Here's the thing though, why on Day 1 (of all days) would you say something that you admitted would make you look suspicious? Does admitting that it would make you look suspicious then make you look any less suspicious? Not really, especially when there seemed to be no need to defend your future actions when you hadn't yet even been attacked for your past ones.

(BTW, congrats on your son's b-day...I'm sure that being lynched is a great way to finish off the celebration ;) )

[Swayde]

Time for homeschool. I should be able to hop back on when it's over in a few hours.

Swayde heads out to her store to open it up for the day. The demand on Slurpees has been exceptional and she's glad to see that she's able to provide a good service for the people of her community. She hopes that Mee-Mee will bring by some of her eclairs today. The rumors that she's been accused of being a criminal have her very concerned and she's afraid that she may not have another chance to savour the delicious pastries.

[wataugachicken]

Hey guys, I know I've been slack. My computer started freaking out and I couldn't use it for most of the day until Malefic got home and showed me how to clear the stored cookies and stored files. Now I know how to do it! Then our internet was down while we booted someone who had signed on to our wireless network and we had to figure out how to make it an encrypted network so no one else could use it. Ugh. After all that i was really too annoyed to concentrate, so we watched Day of the Dead 2: Contagium and went to bed.

[Swayde]

I wasn't ignoring anything. Unfortunately, when I'm typing a post I don't have the abilitly to see the new ones that pop up until I hit 'submit reply.'

Here's the thing though, why on Day 1 (of all days) would you say something that you admitted would make you look suspicious? Does admitting that it would make you look suspicious then make you look any less suspicious? Not really, especially when there seemed to be no need to defend your future actions when you hadn't yet even been attacked for your past ones.

(BTW, congrats on your son's b-day...I'm sure that being lynched is a great way to finish off the celebration ;) )


Because, I am too honest for my own good apparently. It almost got me lynched in my first game. I couldn't keep my Seer identity hidden in the second game, and here I go again, getting myself into trouble by being overly honest and open. Oh well, I guess it's a character flaw, but I can live with it. I just won't get to last very long in these games apparently.

[charlie_stubbs]

I'm not fighting back? Have you even read my posts? See this is why I told everyone I wouldn't be able to post much, because I CAN'T and I did not want that to be used against me. So much for being honest and open with people /sigh. I am an Innocent. I have read and do read every single post, many multiple times. The only case against me is what I basically brought against myself by trying to be honest. People are being very persistant and relentless to follow this train and it's not helping the town out in the least bit.

I love watching people like IceH20 try and backpeddle already. Pointing fingers elsewhere to shift the blame because he most likely knows this is going to end up badly for the people making the persistant accusations. But, with so many mafia in the game, it really doesn't surprise me at all that so many are so eager and quick to jump into a train head first without even bothering to see all the red flags going up around them.
Understand something Sway, its true trains like this one make me very nervous. As well, on the day of the lynch i have Ice laying the groundwork of a case against me should you be an innocent. Another alarm. If he knows your innocent he will definately make sure Mad or i hang for starting this train tomorrow and in fact, may have already begun his evil work. And i fully understand that a case as thin as mine is no certainly guarantee that you are going to be mafia, Cory's gut feelings are probably better.

[charlie_stubbs]

Hey guys, I know I've been slack. My computer started freaking out and I couldn't use it for most of the day until Malefic got home and showed me how to clear the stored cookies and stored files. Now I know how to do it! Then our internet was down while we booted someone who had signed on to our wireless network and we had to figure out how to make it an encrypted network so no one else could use it. Ugh. After all that i was really too annoyed to concentrate, so we watched Day of the Dead 2: Contagium and went to bed.
What a nice story. Trouble is i don't believe you. Welcome to the hotseat. Any thoughts on the game thusfar, or will there be a post in the morning explaining you couldnt type because of a hangnail???

[wataugachicken]

Hey, I'm workin' on it.

As far as who i think is leaning innocent at this time, Dangerdoll and Madcrawdad. I read their posts and nothing stuck out and ave me a bad feeling about them.

Leaning mafia - Swayde, of course. . . . for someone who is busy and can't post a lot, she definitely seems to be overcoming her schedule and posting quite a bit.

Also JohnLarson. . . . at this point, after having several games where everyone was encouraged to go invisible, he still refuses to do so. His basic argument is that he doesn't use PM's when he is mafia so you wouldn't catch him anyway, so it's not worth checking. I think it's more a matter of screaming "I'm innocent, I'm innocent!" without having to say a word. Not invisible? Must have nothing to hide, so I'll overlook him. I think he's just using it as a reverse psychology bluff.

[charlie_stubbs]

Charlie heads out to the hairsalon. He hates being a hairstylist and wishes he were something better. Like a potatoe farmer. Or a chimney sweep. Some of the fella's at the bar snickered at Charlie's job but never to his face, or they would be apt to be sniffling fresh blood back up their noses.

[ZSandmann]

Ouch Charlie :D Hangnail's are the worst.

Morning all. Some interesting talk last Night. Swayde glad to see you respond to the votes against you. Here's the thing though. You now seem very much like "Old Sway" from the first game you played. It is almost an overplay like you are typecasting yourself. What was that 15 posts in a row? I still haven't had anyone reply about the convience store slip up you made. Small things like that stick out to me.


Hmmm well the swayde train is really leaving the station, but not before some more people hop on I'm sure...again I will most likely vote sway as well, but I would like to see their response to the numerous votes for them...I am also hesitant to jump on the train, which most likely is half mafia right now, this early in the game. No real discussion is going on. A lot of people are reiterating Charlies or Mads or Ices thoughts on swayde, with out adding anything of their own...

I disagree, there has been much more discussion, albeit spread out, than on most previous Day 1's IMO.


...

ZS was making me edgy right when the game started, I think it was mostly his post about people posting in groups, which he then said he didn't actually really look at. Mafia-ish tactic to start pointing fingers at things that don't exist. ALthough I don't think I've ever seen him play a game when he's been mafia so I don't know if his style changes at all.

...

Wasn't pointing at anyone, only observing. Glad to finally get a full response from you on the issue, but not what I was expecting from you. Your very different from last Round, I haven't figured out what that means just yet.


Hey all, I finally got to get on, wow lots of talk about swayde and Jo going on. So many more ppl stand out to me to..the ones with little no substance post they really bug me.
KOTD-only 3 post so far 1 just a I'm here kinda post, 1 comment on Z's post in the beginning, and 1 to vote to lynch swayde.
That just seems odd to me personally. I know he starts out slow but wow.
Sploke-Very few posts here, MANY on other threads. Only 1 post with anything to it. Although they were good observations in that post.
Z-struck me funny he hadn't posted in a while then CS makes that point and POOF a post from him, saying he had been at work..which very well may be the case but it was just extremely weird timing.

I hate "jumping" on trains but there are some very good points out there toward Swayde I think. They have been posted over and over so everyone knows why she looks suspicious I'm not going to re-post them all. And although I hate the early train thing, as of right now Swayde seems the best candidate so I VOTE TO LYNCH SWAYDE, This is DEFINATLY subject to change.


It was Orange btw, not yellow;)



I believe because they have already posted pretty much everything, when more reasons come up I'm sure they will be posted, but as of now pretty much everything that makes her look guilty has been stated several times.

I love the folks that say something like... "man that sure looks like a train to me.... BUT, they do seem like a good candidate so I'll vote for them too." However, Lady G you are way quieter than last round. Of course I think you played most everyone then, and you could do it now. You definately get my "Rookie of Mafia Game" nomination.

[Sploke]

The speed with which this train on Swayde got going makes me really uneasy. If the mafia know she is innocent (or at least not on their own mafia team), they're going to be quick to jump on early. If she's an innocent, then thats 10 people rather than just 5 that will be willing to go along with it. With this many mafia I think we're going to have to be very wary of the trains getting started like this. Also, Ice so pointedly making it clear that, "hey, when we lynch an innocent, it wasn't my fault"...why making it that clear, you know something we don't?

Z's post from yesterday is still nagging at me, so just as an attempt to stir up some trouble

I vote to lynch ZSandmann

[Dangerdoll]

sorry guys, long day today

i havn't read the whole thread yet, but i have looked at swayed since there is some suspicion on here, i too agree that she is playing differently

for now

i vote to lynch swayde

subject to change if anything else comes up
Hmmm, well I don't know why this is bothering me but something seems different about KOTD's gameplay. It has nothing to do with his post count, but this post just strikes me as odd...KOTD isn't the type of person to post a quick few sentences before he finishes reading, let alone putting a vote in the same post...I don't know why, but this doesn't seem right for KOTD. Maybe I'm reaching here, maybe I'm paranoid, but something is weird here...
Have to agree here. King's post certainly made me stop and think. Although his posts have been short in the past, they weren't quite like those posts. The difference, I dunno. It was sorta less bruntish, hard to explain.


I understand that. My concern is that people have been focusing a lot on swayde, maybe too much. I think she is definitely the best suspect but there have been quite a few just couple sentence posts saying "I agree with the people who think she is suspicious so I will vote for her." And those people are the ones who are also going to be on my list, especially if she turns up innocent.

And to make sure I at least have a vote tomorrow (I just remembered what my day is going to b like...busy!)

I vote to lynch swayde
While I agree with the top portion of this post, when I get to where pappy is going to be busy and wants to put his post in, something just isn't sitting right with me. Just remembered what the day is going to be like, busy.... eh... I don't know about that. I'm thinking he believes adding the Sway vote will get the smoke from over him.


Wow Ice, you sure are trying really hard to cover your *** because you know that when I am lynched and come up as Innocent people will start to look at those who were pushing the hardest, and whether you started it or not, you sure are pushing for it the loudest and hardest.
I thought of this this morning as well... and then I read Ice's posts. It seems to me that Ice might not have started the train on Sway but being that Ice is a high profile player, he does keep the ideas about sway being guilty prevalent. And then there is the cover my butt syndrom he has displayed by indicating that if Sway is innocent, be sure you all know, I didn't start this train, why even say that this early in the game?


Hey guys, I know I've been slack. My computer started freaking out and I couldn't use it for most of the day until Malefic got home and showed me how to clear the stored cookies and stored files. Now I know how to do it! Then our internet was down while we booted someone who had signed on to our wireless network and we had to figure out how to make it an encrypted network so no one else could use it. Ugh. After all that i was really too annoyed to concentrate, so we watched Day of the Dead 2: Contagium and went to bed.
Sorry Chicken, but this is a wide excuse used in the Mafia. You sure you didn't wind up watching "The Godfather"?


Understand something Sway, its true trains like this one make me very nervous. As well, on the day of the lynch i have Ice laying the groundwork of a case against me should you be an innocent. Another alarm. If he knows your innocent he will definately make sure Mad or i hang for starting this train tomorrow and in fact, may have already begun his evil work. And i fully understand that a case as thin as mine is no certainly guarantee that you are going to be mafia, Cory's gut feelings are probably better.
Now that you have stated this Charlie, I doubt Ice will be acting this way. He will be sure not to bring the heat onto him, he's working already to try to paint the innocent picture.

[DeputyChiefJR]

There are 2 things that have happened since my last posts that concern me...The Ice back-peddle makes me VERY leary....It seems like people only want to cover their tracks if they have something to hide. The second thing is that I placed so huge concerns about watachicken out there and her only response was the the computer was acting up but then it was time to watch a movie. No strong defense, no suspect list to say "I know I was unable to help, but here's my contribution to the town now that I'm back." I'm tempted to change my vote but I'm going to think on it a bit before heading out to work....

[joander123]

i agree DC that the ice back peddle scares me a bit too. It seems as if he knows what swayde is and doesnt want to be associated with his death. It def spooks me.

[Lady G]

Meh I come and go. Depends a lot on what else is going on. I usually have a lot of free time at work so I'll post more during the day.

ZS was making me edgy right when the game started, I think it was mostly his post about people posting in groups, which he then said he didn't actually really look at. Mafia-ish tactic to start pointing fingers at things that don't exist. ALthough I don't think I've ever seen him play a game when he's been mafia so I don't know if his style changes at all.

I'm pretty much in tune with what has been stated about Jo and swayde so far, but I want to do my own looking tomorrow. The skimming business from jo was what did it...there have definitely been games when I barely skim everything to keep up, but its always been when I was mafia.

Charlie is usally more aggressive and talkative, but I've seen him on both sides so I don't know if that means anything. Will do some more looking tomorrow.
This post is driving me nuts simply because after looking at "find other post" for sploke, you see sploke posted like 25 other times in other forums the same day...but didn't have time to look into things here and needs to wait until tomorrow to do own looking? Why wouldn't you have been looking to try and help the town out here more, if you had enough time to go to all the other forums to post? Maybe it is just me though who knows.


Yesterday was my son's 12th birthday. I was in a great mood and I didn't have much time for posting.
Awww birthdays are sooo great! Why didn't you mention this before? I'm not saying I dont think your son had his birthday, just wondering why you wouldn't have mentioned "my son's b-day is tomorrow/today so I wont be on much" especially if you know ppl are talking about you and your post you said several times you wont have time to play why would you not add that as a reason? Just courius.


Ouch Charlie :D Hangnail's are the worst.

Morning all. Some interesting talk last Night. Swayde glad to see you respond to the votes against you. Here's the thing though. You now seem very much like "Old Sway" from the first game you played. It is almost an overplay like you are typecasting yourself. What was that 15 posts in a row? I still haven't had anyone reply about the convience store slip up you made. Small things like that stick out to me.



I disagree, there has been much more discussion, albeit spread out, than on most previous Day 1's IMO.



Wasn't pointing at anyone, only observing. Glad to finally get a full response from you on the issue, but not what I was expecting from you. Your very different from last Round, I haven't figured out what that means just yet.



I love the folks that say something like... "man that sure looks like a train to me.... BUT, they do seem like a good candidate so I'll vote for them too." However, Lady G you are way quieter than last round. Of course I think you played most everyone then, and you could do it now. You definately get my "Rookie of Mafia Game" nomination.

I'm not voting Swayde because others are if that is what you are trying to say..I would of been on Swayde anyway because of things that were pointed out already by the time I was able to get on and get caught up, but all had already been mentioned. The only reason I haven't posted as much this game is because the game started while I was at work, didn't get home until late and then had to get the kids of to school the next morning and ended up with a day shift, by the time I got home had to get supper and tried to get on but my son called ended up having to go get him and his friends and run them across town, got back home...little ones needed baths, snacks, bedtime books, then was able to get on and try to get caught up on everything.
And thanks BTW, I had fun last game....well till the CIA took me out:mad2:

[Sploke]

This post is driving me nuts simply because after looking at "find other post" for sploke, you see sploke posted like 25 other times in other forums the same day...but didn't have time to look into things here and needs to wait until tomorrow to do own looking? Why wouldn't you have been looking to try and help the town out here more, if you had enough time to go to all the other forums to post? Maybe it is just me though who knows.



I never said I didn't have time...and if you look at the posting, the majority of it happened last evening/night after I left work. Like I said, I have more time during the day, so it sometimes takes me a while to get caught up after a flurry of activity between 7pm and midnight.

[johnlarson66]

I agree that Ice's back peddling is something of a concern.

I know that people do not agree, but this first day we are all pretty much in the dark. If we get a mafia, then great, the odds are in our favor to get one.

At this point, I do not see any glaring signs that Swayde is any more mafia than anyone else. It really seems these first few days we lynch the vocal ones.

While I am not against lynching Swayde, because we will learn something from it, I am not sure if I like the idea of so many people voting the same way on the first day.

Also, the person starting the train is not always the one leading the train.

If Swayde is innocent, then I think we should look into Ice.

If Swayde is mafia, then we should look at those that did not vote for her or voted late. I do not think the mafia would vote for their own on the first day.

[DeputyChiefJR]

Ok, I thought it out....while I'm not 100% certain Swayde is mafia I have already expressed serious concerns about chicken (the person, not the food)....I feel more comfortable voting for someone who I feel is mafia rather than someone who I've been convinced MIGHT be mafia...I may end up out on my own with this vote, but I'm ok with that...

I unvote Swayde and recast my vote for watachicken.

[johnlarson66]

Hey, I'm workin' on it.

As far as who i think is leaning innocent at this time, Dangerdoll and Madcrawdad. I read their posts and nothing stuck out and ave me a bad feeling about them.

Leaning mafia - Swayde, of course. . . . for someone who is busy and can't post a lot, she definitely seems to be overcoming her schedule and posting quite a bit.

Also JohnLarson. . . . at this point, after having several games where everyone was encouraged to go invisible, he still refuses to do so. His basic argument is that he doesn't use PM's when he is mafia so you wouldn't catch him anyway, so it's not worth checking. I think it's more a matter of screaming "I'm innocent, I'm innocent!" without having to say a word. Not invisible? Must have nothing to hide, so I'll overlook him. I think he's just using it as a reverse psychology bluff.

We are all going to say we are innocent. It is not reverse psychology. I think I should be on the list of suspected mafia. Just as the rest of the players. Do not overlook anyone.

My arguement is that I do not choose to go invisible. If this gets me lynched so be it. It is not a rule that I must go invisible and I do not see the benefit of it. I am also not the only one that has choosen not to go invisible.

I do find it odd that I am the only one that has had to defend his position on it.

[KingOfTheDeep]

i retract my vote for swayde

something tells me she's innocent..

[joander123]

I just want to point out I wasn't the one to start this train, in case it ends up bad.



that line there is baffling to me. If he truely feels that swayde is mafia, which his vote would reflect, why on earth would he feel the need to say something like this?

I dont know what everyone else is thinking, but i wouldnt be opposed to an vote for ice switch over after a comment like that.

[KingOfTheDeep]

i will be at a yankee game tommorow at 12pm-4pm, after that i will be shopping around the city for a few birds, after that i may have a chance to get online..but i wanted to get my vote in just incase i miss tommorow

i'll be here everyday after, no need to worry..i'll try my best to help out like last game ;)

sorry guys..got a little mixed up here..i went to bed thinking the day game was today..its actually tomorrow..good thing i checked.

so i'll be around today to check in from time to time :)

[Lady G]

I just want to point out I wasn't the one to start this train, in case it ends up bad.

Charlie and Mad both made points about it but didn't vote till after I did. Could they be mafia? Planting the seed and seeing if anyone waters it till it grows into a tree capable of hanging a noose from?

If Sway is innocent, though she isn't exactly fighting the train, they are 2 I would look at closely.

Isn't this pretty much like the same reason ppl got on swayde "defending before attacked?" Ice you really worry me with this post

[Lady G]

Well since there is so much suspicion but no body is manning up to throw a vote that way I guess I'll start, but dammit don't go holding it over my head if we're wrong.
I vote to lynch Sway


Wow I wasn't saying that at all.

Sway posted in the sign up thread that she wouldn't be posting much. People do that in case they get a mafia role so they can lay low.

Sway then reiterated that she wasn't going to be around much in the game thread. Again reminding us she would be laying low, did she get the mafia role?

Saying you're going to be laying low is almost the same as posting you're an innocent. A red flag type post.

I'm not the only one to poiint it out. Actually Charlie or Mad was 1st, I just decided that you only get answers through actions. I acted ,responses are coming in.


LOL Sorry was watching the Big Brother girls on Power of 10.

Yeah I saw him on earlier, though I'd come back to a post by him too



But the point mee mee is that she had already said it, there was no reason to resay (is that a word) it in the game thread unless she is hiding something. She went out of her way to make sure we knew she was going to be a low poster.


I just want to point out I wasn't the one to start this train, in case it ends up bad.

Charlie and Mad both made points about it but didn't vote till after I did. Could they be mafia? Planting the seed and seeing if anyone waters it till it grows into a tree capable of hanging a noose from?

If Sway is innocent, though she isn't exactly fighting the train, they are 2 I would look at closely.

You have already said this a couple times actually Ice so why "resay" it?
I still feel comfortable with my vote and am not changing it...but wanted to point this out, are you trying to distance yourself?

[IceH2O]

Wow Ice, you sure are trying really hard to cover your *** because you know that when I am lynched and come up as Innocent people will start to look at those who were pushing the hardest, and whether you started it or not, you sure are pushing for it the loudest and hardest.


Oh and look, now Ice is trying to sow the seed of doubt so that when I show up as Innocent he can get people to believe I was a Don and not really an Innocent to take the heat off himself.


Here'a a post that makes me nervous. Day of the lynch, and you want to point out it was Mad and i that started all this, in case it goes bad. Makes me think you already know its going to go bad. With little to go on, Sway is the best thing i could come up with. Believe me, i understand its a thin case, but she doesn't seem to be fighting too hard to find a replacement. If a better case were made by someone i would change my vote. Others i am looking closely at:
Joander- skimming the thread, as well his odd posts especially the ones around the time he voted for sway
Jpap- seemed to wanna get his vote out early, makes me a little edgy
KOTD- what 3-4 posts now??? Is this mafia or a power role lying low??


The speed with which this train on Swayde got going makes me really uneasy. If the mafia know she is innocent (or at least not on their own mafia team), they're going to be quick to jump on early. If she's an innocent, then thats 10 people rather than just 5 that will be willing to go along with it. With this many mafia I think we're going to have to be very wary of the trains getting started like this. Also, Ice so pointedly making it clear that, "hey, when we lynch an innocent, it wasn't my fault"...why making it that clear, you know something we don't?

Z's post from yesterday is still nagging at me, so just as an attempt to stir up some trouble

I vote to lynch ZSandmann


There are 2 things that have happened since my last posts that concern me...The Ice back-peddle makes me VERY leary....It seems like people only want to cover their tracks if they have something to hide. The second thing is that I placed so huge concerns about watachicken out there and her only response was the the computer was acting up but then it was time to watch a movie. No strong defense, no suspect list to say "I know I was unable to help, but here's my contribution to the town now that I'm back." I'm tempted to change my vote but I'm going to think on it a bit before heading out to work....


i agree DC that the ice back peddle scares me a bit too. It seems as if he knows what swayde is and doesnt want to be associated with his death. It def spooks me.


I agree that Ice's back peddling is something of a concern.

I know that people do not agree, but this first day we are all pretty much in the dark. If we get a mafia, then great, the odds are in our favor to get one.

At this point, I do not see any glaring signs that Swayde is any more mafia than anyone else. It really seems these first few days we lynch the vocal ones.

While I am not against lynching Swayde, because we will learn something from it, I am not sure if I like the idea of so many people voting the same way on the first day.

Also, the person starting the train is not always the one leading the train.

If Swayde is innocent, then I think we should look into Ice.

If Swayde is mafia, then we should look at those that did not vote for her or voted late. I do not think the mafia would vote for their own on the first day.


that line there is baffling to me. If he truely feels that swayde is mafia, which his vote would reflect, why on earth would he feel the need to say something like this?

I dont know what everyone else is thinking, but i wouldnt be opposed to an vote for ice switch over after a comment like that.


Isn't this pretty much like the same reason ppl got on swayde "defending before attacked?" Ice you really worry me with this post



K guys I knew when I left this morning I didn't explain it well. I shouldn't post before my 1st cup of coffee.

My 1st vote was nothing more than that.A quick vote to get things rolling. 2 people had already posted numerous times about Sway and her not going to be around post. But no one wanted to be the 1st voter, for the very reason that they didn't want to be a train starter.

I voted to get discussions going. I DIDN'T know that EVERYONE was just going to jump in and vote Sway. I was looking for a Sway response and for anyone that would try to protect her. I kept the pressure on because no one was saying anything. I wanted discussion not just votes. Train voting doesn't help us find mafia, it doesn't force response or defensiveness.

When I woke up this morning and saw how everyone jumped on her train it made me nervous. Maybe she isn't Mafia after all. I wanted to make sure just because I was the 1st to vote doesn't mean I knew one way or the other and didn't want to be held accountable for something 2 other people actually started. I'm not trying to distance myself, you are all mafia until proven different. I just didn't like what I saw happening.

I don't understand Sways post about showing up innocent if she is the Don, the Dons role is displayed upon death.


I'm not convinced that Sway is innocent even after her responses. I think she over did it with multiple posts, but I have also been wary of Jo for better reasons. He has back peddled many times already and has done it again. He looks more mafia to me then Sway does, but I don't want to switch just to have everyone follow me again.

I AM NOT GOD don't follow me just because you think I play this game well. Follow me because you see the same thing.

Which brings me to another point. Why would I be anymore a target then the others that have jumped on after me. Isn't it more likely that the mafia saw a chance to get a train rolling and once 3 or 4 votes fell they just piled on?

We can't think with the normal wisdom of past games. With 2 teams there is no normal vote pattern. Not until we whittle the numbers down.

Hope that explains it a little better.

[Lady G]

I never said I didn't have time...and if you look at the posting, the majority of it happened last evening/night after I left work. Like I said, I have more time during the day, so it sometimes takes me a while to get caught up after a flurry of activity between 7pm and midnight.

Ok, I looked and what you said was true most of the posting was during the day when there wasn't much going on. Sorry, it was just something I noticed and it bugged me a little just trying to cover as much as I can while I am here.

I will be leaving to go to work here in about an hour wanted to see if anything new had come up and well it hasn't, I will not be here tonight for the Lynching...so fellow townies if something comes up please make the necessary changes it would be GREAT to get a Mafia the first night and hopefully the mafia will "hit" each other an miss us!:thumbsup:
I really will be missing most of the lynchs that is the one thing I hate with the lynchings being at night (which does make most sense) but I usually work night and the night of the lynchs I HATE BEING AT WORK...all night I keep thinking about this **** game if we had Internet access at work I probably would of been fired by now.....Oh you need a drink? Just a minute they are about to lynch so and so...oh hang on Ice just said that Charlie looks Mafia:evil_lol:

[IceH2O]

This is where the voting stands.

Sway -9- Ice 96 CS 110 Plant 131 Z 135 Mad 144 DD 145 Jo 149 LG 168 Jp 169

Z-2- Jl 12 sploke 196

Jo-2- HN 115 MM 139

Ice -1 Sway 177

Wata -1- DC 203


I also want to ask....

All of you that think because of my morning post that I might be mafia, why stay on Sway then? I know if I thought the train starter was mafia I would have switched to another suspect, or even to me. I might have to look into all the names claiming I'm trying to protect myself, might get a good mafia list there.

[Lady G]

K guys I knew when I left this morning I didn't explain it well. I shouldn't post before my 1st cup of coffee.

My 1st vote was nothing more than that.A quick vote to get things rolling. 2 people had already posted numerous times about Sway and her not going to be around post. But no one wanted to be the 1st voter, for the very reason that they didn't want to be a train starter.

I voted to get discussions going. I DIDN'T know that EVERYONE was just going to jump in and vote Sway. I was looking for a Sway response and for anyone that would try to protect her. I kept the pressure on because no one was saying anything. I wanted discussion not just votes. Train voting doesn't help us find mafia, it doesn't force response or defensiveness.

When I woke up this morning and saw how everyone jumped on her train it made me nervous. Maybe she isn't Mafia after all. I wanted to make sure just because I was the 1st to vote doesn't mean I knew one way or the other and didn't want to be held accountable for something 2 other people actually started. I'm not trying to distance myself, you are all mafia until proven different. I just didn't like what I saw happening.

I don't understand Sways post about showing up innocent if she is the Don, the Dons role is displayed upon death.


I'm not convinced that Sway is innocent even after her responses. I think she over did it with multiple posts, but I have also been wary of Jo for better reasons. He has back peddled many times already and has done it again. He looks more mafia to me then Sway does, but I don't want to switch just to have everyone follow me again.

I AM NOT GOD don't follow me just because you think I play this game well. Follow me because you see the same thing.

Which brings me to another point. Why would I be anymore a target then the others that have jumped on after me. Isn't it more likely that the mafia saw a chance to get a train rolling and once 3 or 4 votes fell they just piled on?

We can't think with the normal wisdom of past games. With 2 teams there is no normal vote pattern. Not until we whittle the numbers down.

Hope that explains it a little better.

OMG you just blew my whole world I thought you were...your not well WTF:thud: !!!
That post does make alot of since to me (well except the part you are not god I just knew for sure you were). I am not voting her because you said so though, what you and others pointed out made very good since to me her following post did not add up in my mind either. Especially the one she said she had her sons b-day (Not that I don't believe it was his b-day) just I don't understand why she wouldn't of said that before, after all she had posted several times she wouldn't be posting much wouldn't it had made since to add that in one?

[Dangerdoll]

I am considering channging my vote....

[joander123]

Ice, i still do like your reasons for swayde, i never didnt like your reasons for swayde. However the thing that i DONT like is that fact that you dont want to be associated in voting for her in case she isnt mafia.


Also, you say you are wary of me, but you were last game too, and the game before that and the game before that.... I play a different style, but it doesnt make me mafia.

[charlie_stubbs]

*game on*

[IceH2O]

Ice, i still do like your reasons for swayde, i never didnt like your reasons for swayde. However the thing that i DONT like is that fact that you dont want to be associated in voting for her in case she isnt mafia.


Also, you say you are wary of me, but you were last game too, and the game before that and the game before that.... I play a different style, but it doesnt make me mafia.

Not that I don't want to be associated. I don't want to be looked at as the one that started it. Someone had to put in a vote, just because I wasn't scared to get some discussion going I shouldn't be penalized. Its a 1st day vote. No body knows anything. I do agree as you get further into the game a 1st vote can tell lots,especially when you can start grouping people together due to voting patterns.

I wanted people to know that its easier for the mafia to get a train rolling after a vote is placed since there are more of them. Lets say Sway is innocent. The mafia see my vote then see 2 more people jump on. They each throw 2 voters in. Thats 7 votes already. Thats enough to be considered a train and the rest just follow because they have no better suspect.

We're all accountable as we all have our votes on Sway.

[jpappy789]

Ok. Just finished reading...wow Ice, never thought I'd see those posts from you.

You are on my list:

Sway- reasons posted already
Ice- pointed out who actually started the sway train too many times
KOTD- odd post last night, then comes back and says that he got the days confused...coinsidence? maybe...


All I got right now...

[Hooked Newbie]

My thoughts so far on some folks...

Jo- My only strong (as strong as they get for day 1) suspect. See below. Looks like there really may be some "speed reading" going on.

Swayde- The first suspicions were cast because of the warnings about not having much time to post (in both threads). The flurry of posts last night is more alarming to me than that was.

Sploke- Voting by "gut feeling" for which I believe he and other's (myself included until I figured out CL) bashed CL for.

Ice- The "back-peddle" is curious. The explanation is plausible, but I don't necessarily believe it (or anything else) 100%.

KOTD- Wouldn't be on and then thought today to look at when the game was (after being called out by a few people for low posts)


Too many people followed onto Swayde for my liking and quite a few without even posting a reason, just "I agree". There are mafia in abundance on that list of voters I believe.




i agree DC that the ice back peddle scares me a bit too. It seems as if he knows what swayde is and doesnt want to be associated with his death. It def spooks me.

Agrees with DC in regards to Ice's post



I dont know what everyone else is thinking, but i wouldnt be opposed to an vote for ice switch over after a comment like that.

Then "I dont know what everyone else is thinking" and a vote threat, but no vote. This looks like he's trying to make the thought his own and then fishing to me.

[Rbishop]

9 votes to lynch Swayde

2 votes to lynch joander

2 votes to lynch zsand

1 vote to lynch wata

1 vote to lynch Ice

15 of 17 voting so far...


less than 3 hours to twilight!!

PM's or e-mails will be taken at any time.....

[ZSandmann]

The speed with which this train on Swayde got going makes me really uneasy. If the mafia know she is innocent (or at least not on their own mafia team), they're going to be quick to jump on early. If she's an innocent, then thats 10 people rather than just 5 that will be willing to go along with it. With this many mafia I think we're going to have to be very wary of the trains getting started like this. Also, Ice so pointedly making it clear that, "hey, when we lynch an innocent, it wasn't my fault"...why making it that clear, you know something we don't?

Z's post from yesterday is still nagging at me, so just as an attempt to stir up some trouble

I vote to lynch ZSandmann

sploke your decision to gun for me is not all that unsuspected based on how hard I went after you last game. You won't get any trouble here though as I think there are much better suspects out there than myself or even yourself. Tonight's lynch results are going to greatly affect how my list sorts as right now I have many 5's. (5 being nuetral for those that don't know)


Ok, I thought it out....while I'm not 100% certain Swayde is mafia I have already expressed serious concerns about chicken (the person, not the food)....I feel more comfortable voting for someone who I feel is mafia rather than someone who I've been convinced MIGHT be mafia...I may end up out on my own with this vote, but I'm ok with that...

I unvote Swayde and recast my vote for watachicken.


i retract my vote for swayde

something tells me she's innocent..

These two votes strike me odd. First DC votes for someone few have even mentioned after voting for Sway previously. Then KOTD retracts? Are there enough people on the train now or something fellows?

[wataugachicken]

Sorry deputy, you should try reading a little bit more


The second thing is that I placed so huge concerns about watachicken out there and her only response was the the computer was acting up but then it was time to watch a movie. No strong defense, no suspect list to say "I know I was unable to help, but here's my contribution to the town now that I'm back."

I posted a suspected innocent/suspected mafia list less than half an hour after my post explaining why i hadn't been on. I think johnlarson is worth looking into, but nobody commented on me saying that, except JL himself. i think it's worth looking into.

[ZSandmann]

I am considering channging my vote....

To... Why?... Puzzled at why it was worth the time to post this thought but nothing else.

15/17 Votes – NO VOTE: KOTD, wataugachicken
2-Zsandmann: johnlarson66 (12) sploke (196)
9-Swayde: IceH2O (96) Charlie_Stubbs (110) Plantling (131) ZSandmann (135) MadCrawdad (144) DangerDoll (145) joander123 (149) Deputychief (152) KOTD (164) Lady G (168) jpappy (169)
2-Joander123: Hooked Newbie (115) Mee-Mee (139)
1-IceH20: Swayde (179)
1-Wataugachicken: DeputyChief (203)

Two hours till Night...

[Swayde]

Swayde is sad that she never really got to know anyone in her new town. She tried to be a good neighbor and tried to run an honest business. I guess in a town overrun with criminals there is no room for her. She will miss her goldfish most of all, and Mee-Mee's delicious eclairs.

My vote shall remain on IceH20. He's my top suspect. I was really hoping to get to play more than this, but oh well. Must be fate telling me to stay off my computer :P Good luck townies. I'll be following along in my free time and cheering you guys on in spirit. Please, avenge my death, don't make my die in vain.

[jpappy789]

My case for KOTD...


lol...i need a break...


that'd make a good mafia list :naughty:

First two posts, basciallly nothing


sorry guys, long day today

i havn't read the whole thread yet, but i have looked at swayed since there is some suspicion on here, i too agree that she is playing differently

for now

i vote to lynch swayde

subject to change if anything else comes up

Hmmm...King posts before he finishes reading the whole thread, and also puts a vote in...must have not gotten to the point where jo was called out for doing pretty much the same thing. Doesn't seem like something King would do. An innocent would make sure to read every post before voting, and for someone as experienced in this game as KOTD, this doens't add up for me.


i will be at a yankee game tommorow at 12pm-4pm, after that i will be shopping around the city for a few birds, after that i may have a chance to get online..but i wanted to get my vote in just incase i miss tommorow

i'll be here everyday after, no need to worry..i'll try my best to help out like last game ;)

Saying he won't be around...


i retract my vote for swayde

something tells me she's innocent..

Wait...what!? What is it that makes her innocent? What is that "something"? Your first post of the day is retracting your vote...seems odd to me...And wait weren't you supposed to be at a baseball game today?


sorry guys..got a little mixed up here..i went to bed thinking the day game was today..its actually tomorrow..good thing i checked.

so i'll be around today to check in from time to time :)

Oh, so you got your days mixed up...not sure I want to believe this 100%.

So, this is exactly why he is on my list...

[mee-mee]

The only thing I ever noticed about Sway's posting was her saying she bought a convenience store (50), and then saying she apparently inherited a convenience store (88),,,that is the only thing I saw a little peculiar about her postings...

and when someone is accused of being Mafia and they know they aren't, they tend to very defensive, I know when I was Mafia in game 4 and the game prior to this, I really didn't defend myself very well.. and maybe her multilple posts was just ranting...

My vote still stays on Jo, for the reasons I had posted earlier.....

MeeMee stops by Sway's house to see how she is holding up, and Sway looks scared for some reason, MeeMee brings her some of her eclairs and it seems to put a smile back on Sway's face....Don't worry Sway, meemee says, Me and Chi will look after your goldfish, if you have to leave town so suddenly...

[Rbishop]

2 hours to go....


no change in voting since last update

[ZSandmann]

Sorry deputy, you should try reading a little bit more



I posted a suspected innocent/suspected mafia list less than half an hour after my post explaining why i hadn't been on. I think johnlarson is worth looking into, but nobody commented on me saying that, except JL himself. i think it's worth looking into.

Going to vote today Wata?

[Dangerdoll]

I am thinking of changing my vote to Ice because of all the hooplah on the whole train on sway issue. There was the one post in regards to defending himself before anyone thought that maybe Sway is in fact innocent. Then, persists on explaining his reasons for not wanting a train to ensue.

I'm going out on a limb, I realize it's close to time but I am switching my vote. I just don't feel as strongly for Sway as I do for Ice. I unvote Sway and vote to lynch Ice

[Dangerdoll]

and I do realize the vote change is late, but my feeling on it is strong

[ZSandmann]

The only thing I ever noticed about Sway's posting was her saying she bought a convenience store (50), and then saying she apparently inherited a convenience store (88),,,that is the only thing I saw a little peculiar about her postings...

and when someone is accused of being Mafia and they know they aren't, they tend to very defensive, I know when I was Mafia in game 4 and the game prior to this, I really didn't defend myself very well.. and maybe her multilple posts was just ranting...

My vote still stays on Jo, for the reasons I had posted earlier.....

MeeMee stops by Sway's house to see how she is holding up, and Sway looks scared for some reason, MeeMee brings her some of her eclairs and it seems to put a smile back on Sway's face....Don't worry Sway, meemee says, Me and Chi will look after your goldfish, if you have to leave town so suddenly...

Yup I pointed out the story inconsistency yesterday but no one even replied to my post, glad to see others are finally looking at her like I am.

[Swayde]

Eh, the convenience store was not my idea. It was suggested to be my role if I chose to roleplay. So I guess in the future I'll just stick to my house and goldfish.

[IceH2O]

I am thinking of changing my vote to Ice because of all the hooplah on the whole train on sway issue. There was the one post in regards to defending himself before anyone thought that maybe Sway is in fact innocent. Then, persists on explaining his reasons for not wanting a train to ensue.

I'm going out on a limb, I realize it's close to time but I am switching my vote. I just don't feel as strongly for Sway as I do for Ice. I unvote Sway and vote to lynch Ice

Eh, I've already explained why I posted numerous times. If you don't understand it by now nothing else I say will convince you.

Its not the normal mafia game, there are 8 possible people to get a train going. All they need is a couple of people to vote for someone they know is innocent then they can all jump on. If everyone votes for Sway there isn't a reason for them to have to hide or distribute their votes.

[wataugachicken]

Going to vote today Wata?

Yeah, eventually. Not sure if i want to go with Swayde, or JL. *Someone* still continues to lurk around, and yet has offered absolutely nothing to the town, except stating what everyone already knows based on past Mafia games. No new thoughts, no suspects, just a useless defense that I still think is a ploy.


I agree that Ice's back peddling is something of a concern.

I know that people do not agree, but this first day we are all pretty much in the dark. If we get a mafia, then great, the odds are in our favor to get one.

At this point, I do not see any glaring signs that Swayde is any more mafia than anyone else. It really seems these first few days we lynch the vocal ones.

While I am not against lynching Swayde, because we will learn something from it, I am not sure if I like the idea of so many people voting the same way on the first day.

Also, the person starting the train is not always the one leading the train.

If Swayde is innocent, then I think we should look into Ice.

If Swayde is mafia, then we should look at those that did not vote for her or voted late. I do not think the mafia would vote for their own on the first day.

There is nothing new here, just a regurgitation of common information, masquerading as deep thoughts.

I Vote for JohnLarson

[IceH2O]

I guess we all need to be careful, a vote no longer means lets discuss. It seems to be a train starter from the start.

[Dangerdoll]

Eh, I've already explained why I posted numerous times. If you don't understand it by now nothing else I say will convince you.

Its not the normal mafia game, there are 8 possible people to get a train going. All they need is a couple of people to vote for someone they know is innocent then they can all jump on. If everyone votes for Sway there isn't a reason for them to have to hide or distribute their votes.
I completely understand them on the posts you posted your explanations in. No need to do it again, I understood them all perfectly well but thanks for the mention.

[Hooked Newbie]

Swayde is sad that she never really got to know anyone in her new town. She tried to be a good neighbor and tried to run an honest business. I guess in a town overrun with criminals there is no room for her. She will miss her goldfish most of all, and Mee-Mee's delicious eclairs.

My vote shall remain on IceH20. He's my top suspect. I was really hoping to get to play more than this, but oh well. Must be fate telling me to stay off my computer :P Good luck townies. I'll be following along in my free time and cheering you guys on in spirit. Please, avenge my death, don't make my die in vain.

If you're Innocent then I think we really need to look hard at those that voted for you later and especially in a cluster (Mad 144 DD 145 Jo 149 DC 152) and those that removed their votes. No vote KOTD? I'm not convinced of your innocence or guilt, but if mafia cool. If not, you're death won't be in vain.

Please refer to this if I am hit tonight (happens alot :().

[Swayde]

I guess we all need to be careful, a vote no longer means lets discuss. It seems to be a train starter from the start.


You are the one who brought up the whole train starting topic when you decided to shift the blame onto someone else.

[IceH2O]

You are the one who brought up the whole train starting topic when you decided to shift the blame onto someone else.

The train happened last night after I went to bed, thats why I posted that I wasn't the one to start it. I wanted to make sure no one looked seen my vote 1st and automatically assumed.

It was the 1st vote of the game, besides Jls vote for role play which no one takes seriously.

Someone had to vote, I just didn't want everyone to follow like that without good reasons of their own.

I don't like the I agree I vote approach.

[Hooked Newbie]

Yeah, eventually. Not sure if i want to go with Swayde, or JL. *Someone* still continues to lurk around, and yet has offered absolutely nothing to the town, except stating what everyone already knows based on past Mafia games. No new thoughts, no suspects, just a useless defense that I still think is a ploy.
I Vote for JohnLarson

I agree that he's beginning to look suspicious, but do you have a list of any other suspects? We need to all post our thoughts so that we can have something to compare to. We almost lost the last game, because the townies (Patriots) couldn't get enough info out there to focus on the most likely overall suspects. I've "parked" my vote on Jo, because he's my highest suspect, t's day 1, and I am really not happy with how quickly everyone voted on Swayde (my #2). We need to do more discussing and less quick voting IMO.

[Rbishop]

to lynch ....

swayde (8) by zsand 135 lady 168 charlie 110 jpap 169 ice 96 joan 149

mad 144 plant 131

joan (2) by hook 115 meemee 139

wata (1) by Deputy 203

ice (2) by DD 229 swayde 177

zsand (2) by jl66 12 sploke 196

jl66 (1) by wata 234


16 of 17 voting


less than 90 minutes...

[wataugachicken]

Plantling, for one. Only posted three times, the last time put a little bit of suspicion towards KOTD, but no real reasoning or quotes. Called for more discussion of suspicions, but has not been involved at all. If there was a follow-through with that post it would look just fine, but looks suspicious when s/he didn't come back with more information after trying to "motivate" the town.

Also, where did charlie go? he returned from the 'hair salon' at 4:30, but has not posted or contributed anything since. he might feel completely confident about his vote for swayde, but still should be digging up new suspects for tomorrow, especially if Swayde's lynch is going to be a sure thing.

[wataugachicken]

Also, again looking at JohnLarson. . .

He still has his nonsense vote on ZSands for being the first to roleplay. Why stay with it? You had your fun vote, now why can't you actually contribute to the town and provide some reasons for other people? Z might be mafia for all I know, but the reasoning of "first to roleplay" shouldn't be used as an actual vote.

[Hooked Newbie]

Also, again looking at JohnLarson. . .

He still has his nonsense vote on ZSands for being the first to roleplay. Why stay with it? You had your fun vote, now why can't you actually contribute to the town and provide some reasons for other people? Z might be mafia for all I know, but the reasoning of "first to roleplay" shouldn't be used as an actual vote.

I hadn't even noticed that. I think in previous games he always switched his vote later to a real suspect, but could be wrong. JL?

[charlie_stubbs]

Plantling, for one. Only posted three times, the last time put a little bit of suspicion towards KOTD, but no real reasoning or quotes. Called for more discussion of suspicions, but has not been involved at all. If there was a follow-through with that post it would look just fine, but looks suspicious when s/he didn't come back with more information after trying to "motivate" the town.

Also, where did charlie go? he returned from the 'hair salon' at 4:30, but has not posted or contributed anything since. he might feel completely confident about his vote for swayde, but still should be digging up new suspects for tomorrow, especially if Swayde's lynch is going to be a sure thing.
What gives you the impression i am completely confident with my vote for swayde?? im about as confident she is mafia as i am as you're mafia. as far as i'm concerned everyone is mafia.
KOTD- spooky feeling about this guy. a post here a post there. Says he won't be here today (baseball game) but will help the town out "the day after that i promise ". Then he says "whoops got the days mixed up" when he posts today. Something got mixed up alright. Your lies. And what happened to your promise to "help us like last time" and the little wink??? Have you turned over any stones King??? Hmmmmm....quickly climbing the mafia meter is all you appear to be doing

[IceH2O]

Ice drives through town, there is an eerie silence like never before. But even with the quiet he can feel the tension of the people. He makes a few calls, this town needs a celebration, we need to lift the spirits of ACville he thinks to himself.

[plantling]

game off/
I got my SAE's and bristlenose today! Finally got them acclimated and then situated in the tank and they are going at the algae already.:y220e:

game on/
Chicken, even w/ the excitement of my fish, I did check in on this thread just to make sure no new major developments have happened. I did find Ice's post a bit odd about him not being to blame for starting the Swayde train, but not enough to remove my vote. I still feel (and hope) that Swayde may very well be Mafia.

And as far as my suspicions on KOTD, they are just suspicions on how he was posting. Others have had suspicions on KOTD also and JPappy had already made a case on KOTD post 225, in which Jpappy made some good points. He's not my strongest suspect at this point, though.

You have brought up some good points about JL, but it almost seems like yours was a last minute vote only after Z prompted you to vote. I have not made a strong opinion on you yet, but imo when you vote so late in the day, it doesn't allow much time for discussion.

[wataugachicken]

keg party?

TOGA PARTY?!?!?!?!?!?!

[charlie_stubbs]

I hadn't even noticed that. I think in previous games he always switched his vote later to a real suspect, but could be wrong. JL?
I am curious about this as well. JL is very quiet and seems content to park his vote on Zsandman. Is there something we're missing here JL??

[mee-mee]

keg party?

TOGA PARTY?!?!?!?!?!?!

TOGA, TOGA, TOGA, TOGA....