View Full Version : Comparing Cichlid Sizes.
mickey
07-24-2003, 7:35 PM
I have just come from a forum where the guys were comparing cichlid sizes, now some of the fish sizes they talked about were astronomical,[and quite hard to believe] but maybe true ,who knows? the biggest cichlid that i have seen was a 13.5in albino tiger oscar that lived alone in a 100g and loved prawns as a treat
Anyone out there grown or kept a big one i would love to know what size they maxed out at.
Cheers.
Tightdog1
07-24-2003, 8:09 PM
are we talking only oscars casue the biggest ive seen was approx 12-13"
at one time 1 of my lfs had a 2' dovii it was like $150. it wasw gone in like a week.
mickey
07-24-2003, 8:16 PM
No wer'e talking any type of cichlid here,
predatorcichlid
07-24-2003, 8:30 PM
The biggest I have kept was a 28 inch male dovii. The largest I ever seen in person was at a cichlid show. It was a 33 inch peack bass. The largest oscar I have ever seen was 15 inches.
AikidoGuy
07-25-2003, 7:03 AM
I just had a 13" Oscar killed by a 12" bifasciatum. Ive had a 13" Midas, and a 42" Silver arowana(not a cichlid). Current Largest fish is a Buttikoferi that is longer than a 55gal is wide.
chevyII
07-25-2003, 1:31 PM
its not the size that counts......
Originally posted by chevyII
its not the size that counts......
Sure it counts. I would love to see the Tilapia Aurata has a go with a full grown Dovii. Well, now I'm afraid the Aurata will become a snack :D
Chevy, I understand aggression counts, but if you look at the thread, it said "Comparing Cichlid Sizes." So...we are really comparing sizes not the aggression.
If we are talking about aggression, there are many aggressive fish, but can we really be sure that "certain" fish is the most aggressive fish?
In many articles on Cichlids, I haven't seen a debate or a research from any famous authors that "this and this" fish is the most aggressive cichlid in this world.
I don't really care to much what anybody says on the aggression. The dovii is crowned king in both categorys cichlid wise. They are the most aggressive and the largest. If there is anything in comparison its the umbee.
Originally posted by optix
I don't really care to much what anybody says on the aggression. The dovii is crowned king in both categorys cichlid wise. They are the most aggressive and the largest. If there is anything in comparison its the umbee.
I will not compare aggression. All fish has different aggression for a reason. Size speaks for it self. Dovii against Aurata is like a whale and shark.
No matter how aggressive Autara is, the mouth of that fish can't compare with Dovii's mouth. One bite of Dovii is like 100 bites for Autara, so that means Autara has to fight 100 times harder if that little guy has that much strength to fight such big fish. Bummer!!! Really, Dovii, the largest size 2.5' or more fight a 4.5" fish? Hmm...problem there, dude.
chevyII
07-25-2003, 4:36 PM
lmao I was making a joke. Ever heard the term "size doesn't matter"
Originally posted by chevyII
lmao I was making a joke. Every heard the term "size doesn't matter"
Ha! As a female, I will still tell you size does matter.
chevyII
07-25-2003, 4:42 PM
rofl, ah man I give up.
Originally posted by chevyII
rofl, ah man I give up.
:p
What can I say? I'm a woman who likes big fish.
I did type fish, right?
Hahaha!!!
AikidoGuy
07-26-2003, 12:11 PM
There goes the family fun enviroment :p
THECiCHLiDMAN
07-26-2003, 10:28 PM
the biggest fish ive ever owned was my Red Devil, he maxed out at about 7" before I had to get rid of him cause I only have a 55gal.
But, anyone who lives in the Swansea, Massachusetts area, take a trip to a store called Pets First, you WONT regret it!
Im telling you, they have quite a bit of aquariums, and many big cichlids and shovelnose catfish, and they are always getting new fish. They also have some fish that stores like petco/petsmart never even carry. So check it out!
MASSMAN2
07-31-2003, 11:08 AM
The biggest cichlid that I have seen live anywhere was a 2 foot male managuense that a friend of a friend of mine had. It was part of a breeding pair. The female was about 10 inches, and the male was twice her size. THe teeth on that Managuense were like the size of nail tips.
predatorcichlid
07-31-2003, 7:45 PM
At 2 feet it probably was not a jaguar. Jags rarely exceed 14 inch in captivity, and the largest on record to my knowledge is 16.5 inches and was caught in flordia. I have been to alot of cichlid shows and have seen and owned alot of jags. The largest I have ever personally seen was about 15.5 inches. I have owned no less then 8 fully mature male jags and have never got one over 14.5 inches. I was more likely a dovii. Female dovii do not get over 10 inches or so where as males can hit 2 feet with no problem.
Tightdog1
07-31-2003, 9:50 PM
2 foot managuense no way! not even a chance. u must of been hallucinating.
peifc
07-31-2003, 11:16 PM
Anyone knows how big Mojo's male Dovii is?
For me, I would love to see a full grown Dovii.
Rocketman
07-31-2003, 11:35 PM
Wouldn't the most common aggresive cichlid have to be a Red Devil, or Green Terror? By common, I mean one you can go to the PetsMart and buy. And I mean at that age too. Obviously a 12" Oscar is probably more aggressive than a 2" Green Terror, espicially as Oscars become more aggressive as they get older.
optix
08-01-2003, 12:51 AM
I wouldn't exactly call a green terror one of the most aggressive you can pick up at the LFS. Maybe mine are weird, but its nothing to grab a jag or texas or red devil here. They are actually more available than green terrors. It took me 6 months to find a LFS with a green terror. When I could go to either of them for salvinis and what not. Besides that, the fish we call green terrors today aren't really the green terror that used to be in the hobby a few years back. Its actually a type of acara and some call it a saum. Much more docile than its predecessor. So I don't really look at them as being aggressive as much as territorial like an oscar or jack dempsey.
:D Aggressive cichlids? GT? Nah! I thought so too in the past until I had one. The last GT I had even ran away from my Big BP. So much for aggression.
My GT I have today, temperament is mild. Right now he just enjoy chasing my Convict. Otherwise, he just want to eat.
dave76
08-01-2003, 9:54 AM
My GT seems to dislike me more than any of the fish in my tank. Whenever I put my finger on the glass or put my face near the tank at all he snaps at the glass and flares his gills. The other day he charged the glass at me and ran into it. The only agression he shows is when its feeding time and one of my other cichlids are eating "his" grub, which according to him is anything edible in the tank, heh.
peifc
08-01-2003, 10:28 AM
For me, I think my GT developed a crush on me. He likes me only but no others. Haha! I guess because I'm the only who feeds him.
dave76
08-01-2003, 4:20 PM
mine used to like me a lot too, but all of the sudden he changed. I think its funny though, and I am glad that he is smart enough to directly interact with me. That is the whole reason I got him was because I had read they were very owner responsive. They were right.
predatorcichlid
08-01-2003, 7:31 PM
On the cichlid aggression scale. Green terrors you buy at LFS are farm bred and are only semi aggressive at best. Oscars are usually peaceful. I have seen oscars housed the tetras, danios, and small barbs with no problems. An oscar is large and if hungry enough may consume smaller fish at times, but 99.9% of the time is not aggressive what so ever. Devils on the other hand are a CA cichlid and can be frighting nasty fish. I have had devils that had to be kept alone because of their temper problems. Jags are just as common, males can be just as nasty as any devil and jags have a bad habit of taking over even large aquariums. Not to mention they are predatory and grow like a weed. As far as a aggressive cichlid that is readily available the jag has my vote. Many a newbie cichlid tank has been put into upheavel with the introduction of that cute little cichlid.
Originally posted by peifc
Anyone knows how big Mojo's male Dovii is?
For me, I would love to see a full grown Dovii.
The male is close to 16". Show me the two foot Managuense and I will eat my keyboard one letter at a time....no water.
Originally posted by MoJo
The male is close to 16". Show me the two foot Managuense and I will eat my keyboard one letter at a time....no water.
Hahaha!!! I would love to see that, MoJo eatting keyboard, but I know it will never happen because there are no 2' Jag.
However, wouldn't that be a problem, MoJo, that one day your male Dovii gets to full size and housing in that pond with other fish?
Rocketman
08-03-2003, 2:53 PM
What about a Red Zebra? I don't know anything about this fish, (I doubt it's even a cichlid.) All I know is that we have one at the Pet Store I work at. I've watched him kill another fish, (I think a Parrot,) that was easily the same size. He's also been returned by customers twice for killing all the fish in the tank. He's about 5 inches.