Soldiers Fishie is Dieing! Treat the whole tank? what do I do?

Bethinla

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I'm fishie sitting for a a friend, whose currently serving in Iraq. Aprox. 4 mths before becoming active, he acquired a round coffee table aquarium (20-gal. I think) housing 3 goldfish (2 Ryukin, 1 Crown red/white, again I think) 1 betta, and 3 three very small African dwarf aquatic frogs. I've had them now since the middle of April. When he first brought it over, he put the water from home back in the tank when he set it up here. The water had a slight yellow tint to it. I did some research and found out the chemistry was all wrong, the PH was very low, and the nitrates were high and there was a little amonia in the tank. I finally got everything normal by doing a 20/25 % water change every other day.

2 weeks ago a long gel like string, clear and brownish orange in color appeared in the tank, and the next day a froggie died. And the crown red/white appeared to have some scales missing along the spine, The pet store (petco), thinking it was intestinal blockage, suggested I change the froggies diet to the live blood worms, and treat the tank with Melefix, so I did,.

Then Yesterday I had to quarantine 1 of the Ryukins who appears to have Dropsey. He/she’s completely swollen with its scales sticking out, blood vessels are showing behind the gill, there’s a small cottony white growth on his/her side, he's breathing heavy, and today is upside down. I put him in a goldfish bowl, (all I had) with a little filter, I’m treating him with Epsom salt and Maracyn-two, and have the water at 80. (goldfishvet.com recommendation, the pet store was unhelpful, Quote- “ Gosh I don’t know anything about dropsey, The guy who works aquatics comes back from vacation Wednesday, you could come back then and talk to him about it.”) It’s hard to tell if the other guys are getting dropsy because their abdomens are naturally fat

If dropsey is a symptom of the cause, how do I know what caused the dropsey? Do I treat the whole tank with the Maracyn, in case the other guys have it, or to prevent them from getting it? Is it safe for the froggies and the betta?

I Have to say. I Really HATE this tank because it’s very diffucult to examine the fish. The only view I really have is from above, and if I lay on the ground and wait for them to pass by. I’m worried that I’m over feeding, because of the heavy glass top, spot feeding is impossible, and I usually have to put a lot of blood worms, so the froggies and betta, have a chance to get some, before the goldfish swallow them all up, They eat everyones food and their flakes. Any suggestions on this also would be a great help..

The last thing I want to happen is for him to come back (hopefully) from fighting a War, and have to tell him all his pets died. So any help would be so appreicated!!
 
Oh right sorry, The filter is an underwater Fluval plus 3, and he has a big round green airstone in the middle. Also his substrate is a really fine grain sand.
 
Also demon, The air stone is attached to a Tetra tec AP 100.

I lost the little guy last night anyway. From what I read it's not clear whether dropsy is contagious , it just says not very contagious. So any advise on whether I should treat the whole tank with the Maracyn-two or anything else, to prevent the spreding or secondary infections. And on whether or not I should take the Frogs out before treating would be appreciated!

I may be just a little emotional from having my first fish die in saying this. But I really feel the guy who designed these things and decided it was an AQUARIUM should be hung from a tree upside down and flogged for the rest of his life. To me it just seems like fishie abuse. Maintaining the tank is five times the chore, there’s no good spot for a filter, the filter an aeration cause condensation on the glass top, obscuring the view from above, its almost very difficult to examine the fishies in the tank. It just sucks! Without serious modifications to the tank, I don’t see how one could keep aquatic life alive in this death trap. I guess I’m stuck with it til Bushie decides to give the UN more control in Iraq, so our boys can be relieved.
 
Sorry for your trouble,
dropsey should be treated with maracyn two, the fungus or columnaris should be treated with maracyn (original). You can use both at the same time.
keep up the fight,
good luck
:)
 
it sounds to me like he needs to get rid of the messy goldfish and get some fish that produce a smaller bio load on the tank. some small tetras perhaps.

I dont know what else to suggest im afraid
 
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