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Hammer1126
09-29-2003, 10:19 PM
Here it is..my 55gal with 2 damsels in it for the cycle..i have 20lbs of LS a few lbs of LR, im getting more this week..and an aquaclear300...i already ordered a penguin 330 a skimmer and a powerhead..after the cycle is over i will be getting a snowflake eel and a baby bamboo shark..he is a newborn..i will have him in the 55gal for only a few months..than i am upgrading to around a 180gal//

my tank (http://charliepics.50megs.com/index.html)

Guy W
10-03-2003, 6:59 PM
Just looked at your pictures and there is a shark! Your cycle is done alreay???

Hammer1126
10-03-2003, 7:09 PM
well the ammonia is at like .25 and the nitrates and nitrites are good..i think the Cycle product and the LS and LR work really good together.. and i have good water movement and alot of filtration for bio buildup..and i also fell in love with the shark at the store last week and been hoping that noone would buy him before i was able to put him in

liquafaction
10-03-2003, 8:48 PM
not trying to be a butt, but there is no way I would have put a shark in a new tank.

I can see where you would have fell in love with him though

Hammer1126
10-04-2003, 9:07 AM
yeah i know but i got him so im gonna do a water change today to help the water out a little and im also going to get some more rock today.. Last night he was swimming around the tank looking nice and healthy so we shall see. hopefully everything will be alright

a_free_bird73
10-05-2003, 7:07 PM
I am sure you will hear from some very unhappy people about what you did...

If you got live rock, your cycle should complete quickly. The live rock that you have in this tank does not look much like live rock though, it looks like dried stuff. If it is dense rock you will need a hell of a lot more than that. That is not the way to start!!

The other thing I would suggest is to find someone with a mature tank who uses a mechanical filter and take a squeeze of his sponge and pour it into your water. I don't know how much ammonia can sharks tolerate, but 1ppm is considered unacceptable for any fish at pH above 8 so you better no get anywhere near that..

liquafaction
10-05-2003, 8:02 PM
If that was a banded shark, from what I understand, they need stable conditions. At a 40 inch adult length, I would also think that you would need a 250 gallon plus tanks for it. I know it is a pretty fish and all, but I still think that was a big big jump.

Guy W
10-05-2003, 8:38 PM
this guy was here a few weeks ago posting about wanting a shark egg and everyone basicly said don't do it. Bigger, more stable tank required... and so on.

Then he posted another question, no one answered, and he wondered why.

I don't like being rude to newbies, I was one once and heck there is still a ton I don't know, but serously... use a little common sense.

MonoSebaelover
10-05-2003, 11:53 PM
I have been trying to avoid this post as long as possible because I got so fed up with the last ones, but feel I can no longer hold back. First and most important it is very irresponsible to add a fish to a tank that one KNOWS there is ammonia in. Especially a shark. They are extremely sensitive and the shark will probably have somewhat of burnt gills for the rest of its life. I don't mind so much that he is in a smaller tank but it is the ammonia fact that really annoys me.

Guy W
10-06-2003, 12:19 AM
Originally posted by a_free_bird73
If you got live rock, your cycle should complete quickly. The live rock that you have in this tank does not look much like live rock though, it looks like dried stuff. If it is dense rock you will need a hell of a lot more than that. That is not the way to start!!


Bottom dwelling sharks don't appreciate live rock taking up all their space :)

superjohnny
10-06-2003, 1:38 PM
This is one of my favorite images
This is my good friend Hal. I took this picture on his birthday. I think he likes to be in pictures.


Anyone else find this to be a bit creepy? :p

mogurnda
10-06-2003, 1:52 PM
Truly amazing. I think people were pretty gentle when you were asking about setting it up. It sounded as though you had listened to some extent, and were trying something else.

A few questions come to mind.
1. Why is the shark swimming upside-down?
2. Has it eaten?
3. Is it still alive?
4. Do you think any of us would be pleased to see you putting a shark in the tank after all the flak you got before?

liquafaction
10-06-2003, 9:38 PM
quote:
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This is one of my favorite images
This is my good friend Hal. I took this picture on his birthday. I think he likes to be in pictures.


What????




Looks like the shark dude p'ed off neptune

Hammer1126
10-07-2003, 10:55 AM
well i am not sure y he was swimming upside down..i think cause he is only 2 weeks old and not use to the water current maybe..but yes he eats anything i offer him..i fed him live ghost shrimp..i put frozen silverasides on a feeding stick..very good eater..very active during night time and a little active during the day also..he seems to be doing fine and the water parameters are still good..so i guess time will tell..but i will have a spare tank rady in case of any parameter spikes

gcvt
10-07-2003, 3:55 PM
Originally posted by Hammer1126
..he seems to be doing fine and the water parameters are still good..

What were the results of your most recent ammonia, nitrite and nitrate tests?

Hammer1126
10-07-2003, 5:37 PM
just tested 5 min ago...ammo .30 nitrite .25 nitrate 15
what levels will be too much for the shark?

gcvt
10-07-2003, 6:04 PM
Personally, I wouldn't put any creatures in a tank until it is completely cycled and ammonia & nitrite are undetectable.

Guy W
10-07-2003, 6:10 PM
The general rule and practice is not to add any fish until you have 0 amm. and 0 nitrites. To cycle your tank what most people do is put a couple raw cocktail shrimp in their tank and let them rot. this kicks the ammonia into gear. Over the course of 30 to 45 days the denitrifying bacteria will grow in your filtration system and the levels of amm. and nitrites will deminish to 0. Then your tank is cycled and ready for fish.

Any level of ammonia, even as low as yours, could be damaging and maybe fatal with long term exposure.

I would recommend at the very least doing a large water change. Moving the shark to a cycled tank until your levels drop down is the better choice.

Guy

MonoSebaelover
10-07-2003, 7:03 PM
Totally agree. You need to get that shark out of there. They can not take ammonia AND nitrite exposure. The shark will die. Even if you have to ask the lfs if they will board it for a little while do something.....quickly. That might be why the shark is acting wierdly. Your going to have to do something or everyone on this board will loose respect for you and will never answer another one of your posts. Trust me, its happened before and I'm sure it will happen again. Fix the problem or get rid of the shark. That is what it comes down to.

Hammer1126
10-07-2003, 7:19 PM
ok im going to the lfs tomorrow after work..i hope he lasts till then