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LMOUTHBASS
12-29-2003, 12:51 PM
ok this morning while doing a water change i noticed a very odd clump attached to the glass in the upper corner of my tank in a secluded little spot - it looked at first like a snail or something but was to big to be a little tag along - i have a blue snail that i like who is getting quite big - well at closer look this little clump was a pod of eggs! kinda looked gross - i grabbed them with a tissue and took them out of the tank - my guess is that they were snail eggs - i dont want an army of snails so i flushed them - i dont think they were fish eggs because i havent got pairs of bubbles nesters -
my fish include
angels
gouramis
ottos
loaches
pictus
cories
i dont think it came from any of them -
meanwhile my snail has beconme very quite - he normaly goes everywhere but he has been stayig in his shell -
now that i think about i feel bad about flushing the eggs i like my snail and he doesnt eat my plants i coulve used his babies in my other tank - oh well i feel mean right now -
i was thinking what if they are pond snail eggs - once in a while i find one in my tank- the other thing is something has been eating holes in my plants - maybe it was my snail trying to get enough nutrition for the egg laying or something ??? - not sure ? thanks

OrionGirl
12-29-2003, 12:58 PM
Gouramies are bubble nesters. The snail will likely lay eggs again, so don't worry overly much, either way.

Common pond snails do not eat healthy leaves. I have them in all my tanks, and they only go after leaves that are damaged. Your holes sound more like a nutrition deficiency than anything else.

LMOUTHBASS
12-29-2003, 1:42 PM
there was no bubble nest so i know it wasnt the gourami - plus i havent got a pair of any one type ive got 3 gouramis all are different type - moonlight,platinum and honey -
i think they were snail eggs
i just hope it wasnt otto eggs or soemthing - but because they were in a tight clump it's gotta be snail eggs?
hmmmm, how many woulve have hatched out of there? it was a good size group
anybody think it wasnt snail eggs?

OrionGirl
12-29-2003, 1:44 PM
I would say it was most likely the snail. Few fish will lay their eggs close to the surface--to easy for predators to get, and the risk of them being exposed in low water conditions is too great. Apple snails, on the other hand, lay their eggs just above the waters surface, and the eggs won't hatch if completely submerged.

LMOUTHBASS
12-29-2003, 2:27 PM
that was it - they were just above the surface so my blue snail must be a type of apple snail!
mystery solved OG!!!:D

LMOUTHBASS
12-29-2003, 4:15 PM
long woul it take for them to hatch???

LMOUTHBASS
12-29-2003, 4:16 PM
how many woulve come from the little group of them?

OrionGirl
12-29-2003, 4:24 PM
That I am not sure of. Most apple snails lay between 10 - 150 eggs at a time, with varying survival rates. Mine lay egg masses of about 25, but since my water level is seldom low enough, I've never had any survive. I think the gestation is temperature dependent, and normally takes about 1-2 weeks.

Somewhere I have a link to a great snail page--I'll see if I can locate it.

http://www.applesnail.net/ Check out Embryology.

zin
12-29-2003, 4:49 PM
apple snails arent asexual, they need a male and female to make babies :p

OrionGirl
12-29-2003, 4:58 PM
Yes, but they don't have to be living together. A female can store sperm from a male for quite some time--so if you have a female, and she was ever in the same tank with a male (scandalous!), most likely she will be able to produce a viable clutch on her own, at least once.

LMOUTHBASS
12-29-2003, 4:58 PM
i've only got 1 so maybe its not an apple snail?