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trying
01-09-2004, 11:45 AM
I just lost my striped Rachael,2 spotted picos, and 2 clown loaches. I think I saved my upsidedown catfish in time. I had used Paragon II to get rid of a bad case of ick that I had gotten when I purchased some live plants for the first time. It said it was safe for all fish!!! This is the worst case I've had since I started my aquarium three years ago. I have had ich twice but maybe I noticed it sooner and it cleared up pretty fast. But now all of my fish have it really bad. I moved the upside catfish to a small tank that I have five striped zebra fish in. How do you treat a tank with a variety of fish in? I have started raising my temperature and adding sea salt. Today I added Quick cure at half strengh due to a few tetras I have. Any other suggestions?:shake: :shake:
OrionGirl
01-09-2004, 12:22 PM
I raise the temp to 85, and add salt. The high temp speeds up their life cycle and will kill the parasite. Maintain this for 4-5 weeks after the last visible sign of infection to kill off any tomites released.
Medication only work on the tomites--the other life stages of the parasite are not killed off.
Welcome aboard, BTW. Sorry it's too late for some of your fish.
trying
01-09-2004, 12:45 PM
Thanks for the response. I have read several versions of what temp to use, some as high as 90. like the temperature you suggested.
OrionGirl
01-09-2004, 1:08 PM
85 is the level proven to kill the parasite, above that and I worry it will stress the fish.
trying
01-09-2004, 6:43 PM
Orion Girl,
I know this site is for catfish, but iIneed your help again concerning the ich we have been discussing. I have 2 tri colored sharks that both have the ich also. the largest one is doing bably. He is getting a film over his eyes and some larger wnite patches on him that look a little fuzzy. Can I help him? Not sure what to do ,
Must4ng s4lly
01-09-2004, 7:29 PM
OG is right! Also, I have been struggling with a bit of ick and have used Mardel's Maracide. I got it at Petsmart. I have all kinds of catfish and two Clown Loaches and all were just fine with full strength treatment. I left the old Charcoal filter in during treatment. Follow the directions and you should be OK. Of course do a water change at the end of the course of treatment.
Good Luck!
trying
01-10-2004, 4:19 PM
Do you do a water change before each daily treatment? Or just at the end.
If you are going to use meds for ich then I suggest following the directions excactly in the packaging. I have used Mardels other meds and they seem safe from my experiences. I know their popeye meds say to not do a water chaneg during the treatment but that varies so read the package carefully. Also I would definatly remove any charcoal from the filter as this can lead to problems. Have fresh carbon ready for the end of the treatment.
Must4ng s4lly
01-12-2004, 12:02 AM
Yeah, follow the directions and do changes at the end of treatment!
Napoli
01-12-2004, 2:43 PM
I also just had a big Ich infestation, and lost my pictus cat, 2 clown loaches, and my Striped Rafael isn't looking too good. None of them had Ich too bad, so I'm wondering if they couldn't tolerate the medicine. I used RidIch+ (a formaldehyde/malachite green mix) which I had been told is a very safe and effective medicine. now the rafel seems to be covered in a whitish slime (his eyes are an opaque white) and his scales, especiall along his side, are standing on end. Any ideas?
Thanks
<<NWN>>
Must4ng s4lly
01-12-2004, 2:51 PM
Sounds like something different that ich. You might want to start a new string with your question....
Good Luck!
trying
01-12-2004, 5:16 PM
I had used quick cure. it has the same ingredients. I lost exactly the same fish. I have since found out that the clown loaches can't tolerate that medicine, and I am guessing that the cat fish can't neither. I think that I'm getting under control. I did a major water change and went out and purchased the Mardels Maracide. But not before loosing my large Bala shark. I thought I was going to loose the other shark also, but after the water change and the new ich treatment along with a fungal treatment all is well so far.. My 2 sharks also has a whitish fuzzy growth on them along with a film on their eyes. My local pet store said it sounded like a fungal infection that took hold from the stress of the ich. I don't know but the film is clearing up on the shark that is still living.
Must4ng s4lly
01-12-2004, 6:31 PM
Yeah, it was probably was a fungal infection that took hold because of the ick... Let me know how they are doing on the Maricide. Good luck with your fishies and sorry you lost a fish....
snakeskinner
01-16-2004, 1:38 PM
I tried a couple different ich medicines and each time I lost Tetras. Last week I found my rummy nose tetras and some of my cardinals had ich. I ran across a product by Jungle called Ich Guard II said it was made especially for scaleless fish so I bought the bottle and tried it. It is clear so it doesn't turn the water blue and it worked awesome. Trouble is, I can't find anyone locally that carries it. I found the one bottle in a shop 50 minutes from my home and didn't have time to go get anymore so I found these fizzing tablets by Jungle also and put a very light dose in last night. So far so good, we'll see after a few days. I found Ich Guard II on some websites so I may just buy a large bottle to have on hand in case I have another bout in the future instead of hurrying out to find some off the shelf. I had tried Rid-Ich in the past and it seemed deadly for tetras. Don't have any cats right now so I can't say for sure but I bet if it's safe for tetras, it's safe for cats. Kyle
trying
01-16-2004, 11:02 PM
Would the Jungle ich II work for the regular fish in the same tank?