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Celura
01-21-2004, 9:23 AM
I read on here that some Bettas are kept with frogs. What type of frogs? Is a 2g too small to add frogs to?
Wippit Guud
01-21-2004, 9:26 AM
These would be aquatic dwarf frogs, spend all their time in the water. About the size of a quarter, not counting the legs.
http://www.pipidae.net/david/dwarf.jpg
In a 2g, your max possible combo, IMHO, is 1 betta, 2 frogs.
Just make sure they're dwarf frogs, and not clawed frogs. The latter get 6in and eat fish.
RENEGADE
01-21-2004, 9:49 AM
Just make sure they're dwarf frogs, and not clawed frogs. The latter get 6in and eat fish.
then sushi WOULD be sushi:D
Wippit Guud
01-21-2004, 10:01 AM
Actually, sushi implies the fish is dead.
He would actually be sashimi. Which is eaten alive.
Celura
01-21-2004, 10:26 AM
Originally posted by Wippit Guud
Actually, sushi implies the fish is dead.
He would actually be sashimi. Which is eaten alive.
Sashimi was my other Betta that died. :(
Wippit Guud
01-21-2004, 10:31 AM
Whoa.. spooky
shewlett
01-21-2004, 10:39 AM
Sashimi is japanese for slices of raw fish. The fish is not alive. Sushi is japanese for slices of raw fish wrapped around rice. Again, the fish is not alive.
Wippit Guud
01-21-2004, 10:44 AM
Huh, based o nwhat I was reading, I thought it was eating live fish... they even had pics...
Celura
01-21-2004, 10:48 AM
Taken from "Looksmart" article:
"Waiter, There's a Needle in My Sashimi".
Food Management, Oct, 1999
"In Japan, one of the most prized delicacies is sashimi, a sort of extreme version of sushi that uses seafood so fresh it's practically (and sometimes literally) moving on the plate. Some chefs have a tough time, both physically and emotionally, working with sashimi because the creature is alive and wriggling as it is being sliced for serving.
But one chef has come up with a solution: acupuncture! Toshiro Urabe got the idea after getting treated for back pain by the ancient method. One deftly placed needle in the right spot on a sashimi-to-be anesthetizes the creature, making the subsequent procedure easier on both chef and ingredient...to relative degrees, that is."
Celura
01-21-2004, 11:03 AM
Originally posted by Wippit Guud
These would be aquatic dwarf frogs, spend all their time in the water. About the size of a quarter, not counting the legs.
http://www.pipidae.net/david/dwarf.jpg
In a 2g, your max possible combo, IMHO, is 1 betta, 2 frogs.
Just make sure they're dwarf frogs, and not clawed frogs. The latter get 6in and eat fish.
So how can I tell the difference between the two frogs at the LFS (since we know how often those people mis-label things)?
Wippit Guud
01-21-2004, 11:05 AM
From what I remember, dwarf frogs have completely webbed front feet, whereas clawed frogs stop about half-way, and have claws.
adblair
01-21-2004, 11:09 AM
...is sashimi, a sort of extreme version of sushi that uses seafood so fresh it's practically (and sometimes literally) moving on the plate...
:sick: :sick: :sick: :sick:
That's just gross...
Ya'll don't think a 2 gallon is too small for a betta? I have a 2 gallon I just planted and I would LIKE a betta, but I didn't know if that would be big enough... Maybe I will give it a try at least until I can get a bigger aquarium for my other fish so he can have their tank.:)
adblair
01-21-2004, 11:11 AM
The albino ones they sell at wally world are evidentally clawed frogs.... they ate my fish.:sad
Celura
01-21-2004, 11:15 AM
Originally posted by adblair
:sick: :sick: :sick: :sick:
That's just gross...
Ya'll don't think a 2 gallon is too small for a betta? I have a 2 gallon I just planted and I would LIKE a betta, but I didn't know if that would be big enough... Maybe I will give it a try at least until I can get a bigger aquarium for my other fish so he can have their tank.:)
Agreed. That whole eating live food thing is just nasty. :sick:
To be honest, Sushi seems to have lots of room. He doesn't really know what to do with it all. Maybe he'll order some furniture from Ikea or something. :D
My single betta lives in a planted 5 gallon and he explores every inch of it. There is no such thing as a tank too big for these guys. I wouldn't go any smaller than a 2 gallon for long term living IMO.
OrionGirl
01-21-2004, 11:47 AM
My betta currently lives in a 55--and he too investigates the entire tank.
jread
01-21-2004, 11:57 AM
Originally posted by Celura
Maybe he'll order some furniture from Ikea or something. :D
:laugh:
~*LuvMyKribs*~
01-21-2004, 12:35 PM
The only thing is you would need a heater i think because dwarf frogs need warmer water. And they are really sensitive to water conditions.
Dwarf frogs have little tiny claws too so you can't go by that. Dwarfs will have webbing on the front feet and clawed frogs do not. ALso, the eyes are flatter on a dwarf frog. They are set wider apart too. But i guess you need to be looking at both to be able to tell them apart that way.
Originally posted by ~*LuvMyKribs*~
The only thing is you would need a heater i think because dwarf frogs need warmer water. And they are really sensitive to water conditions.
Seems like I've seen some little 6-inch nano heaters for small aquariums before. If they still make those, that would be great for a 2 gallon.
Celura
01-21-2004, 2:10 PM
Originally posted by jread
Seems like I've seen some little 6-inch nano heaters for small aquariums before. If they still make those, that would be great for a 2 gallon.
Really?? I thought they didn't make heaters that small. Please let me know if you find one!
Uncle Bete
01-22-2004, 5:00 AM
some heater talk here...
http://www.aquariacentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21860&highlight=nano+heater
Oh for sure they can "live" in a .5-1G but who wants to put there betta through that??. The bigger the tank the more lively the betta becomes. Also if you think they are an easy fish to care for you are right but in bad water conditions they don't swim at all they just float there. But kept right they thrive.
Leopardess
01-22-2004, 3:46 PM
http://allaboutfrogs.org/info/mypets/dwarfs.html
http://www.petfish.net/afrogs.htm
Almost all albino frogs are going to be a clawed frog rather than a dwarf frog. The hardest part about keeping an ADF is ensuring that it eats properly. A tight lid is a must.
Here is what my adult (female I think) looks like.
http://www.freewebs.com/narcisse529/Mr%20frog%20crop%20sharpen.JPG
As for bettas, a 2g is "do-able" but a 5g is comfortable.
Aquarius0015
01-22-2004, 4:03 PM
How big do dwarf frogs get? Petsmart sold Regular ADF's for $2.50 but XL ADF (oxy moron anyone?) for $6. The regular's were the size of a quarter or so, but the extra larges were about 2-3 times that size. They looked like the same size, and I doubt they were the clawed species because they were kept in a tank with little fish.
Leopardess
01-22-2004, 4:09 PM
ADF's stay small...at or under 1.5" mostly. I bet the big ones you saw were clawed frogs; when they are young, they aren't that harmful to fish yet- and are often kept in small-fish tanks.
I mean, look at the size of the glosso leaves in my pic compared to an adult frog. Pretty small little guys.