freakin UGF creates massive bubbles!

kelley

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Okay, I have this 10 gallon tank with an undergravel filter system hooked up to an air pump for a 10 gallon tank. It's covered in a thin layer of gravel, and I've left spots open (no gravel) here and there behind plants.

about every ten minutes a massive amount of bubbles come up near where the two filter plates meet. The two little fish in there must think I'm out to get them..

Is the pump too big? If I hook up my air stone to it will that help? Did I install in incorrectly?!

Besides this I have the standard whisper filter system that came with the tank.

Thanks! Kelley
 
you problaby have too much air going through it or the pumps outlet is too low, and yes you would need a diffuser or airstone on it, try it with the stones and see if it stops. plus you need a thicker layer of gravel and no open spots for it to work right. if your whisper is working fine we would all probably recommend you to stop using the undergravel, its just pulling all the debris under the plates which will accumlate underthere.
 
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There are airstones attached to the tubes right now. I used to have one of those bubble stones in there---if I added that to the same pump, do you think it would help, or should I just take the whole thing out? I don't quite understand the point of the undergravel filters anyway, but all three fish stores I've frequented recommended them to me.

More gravel? Bubble stone added? Argh...thanks for helping me out!

Kelley
 
actually big bubbles are better than small ones. They move alot more water. In airlifts people try to get the largest bubble size possible to move the most water.
 
I dig your name and picture there.

I'm guessing you like the band "slipknottin"? Dig the picture, too

okay, so about the tank....will these massive bubbles and appear like Old Faithful freak out little fish?! we just have two in there now--we were cycling and all that fun stuff. I'd like to put a little school of something in there soon..just want to get the darned filters all good to go.


Kelley
 
UGF's,
I am a big fan but they are easily mis understood, and often lead to problems. Your LFS should have explained things better, but I'm not suprised. You mentioned you didn't understand the need for one, to be brief, it creates a bacteria bed to biologically filter your tank. Gravel should be more than an inch thick over the entire plate. The RFUg mentioned above is far better than airstones, Reverse flow is done with a powerhead, and pushes the water down the tube and up through the gravel. this prevents build-up of dirt under the filter and keeps you gravel much cleaner it also feeds more oxygen to your bacteria and therefore they work better. Be sure to put a sponge filter on the intake of your power head to prevent dirt from buliding up under the plates. If you use the pump and airstones, try raising the stones an inch or two in the tubes to keep air from going under the plates. You are really only trying to create water flow with the air, as the bubbles move up the tube, the water is forced to do so as well. If possible, try to get all the air out from under you plates as the filter will work better without trapped air. On a 10 gal I wouldn't call an undergravel necessary if you have a good HOB but I never set up a tank without a UGF installed.
 
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The bubbles need to come out ABOVE the plates or some bubbles will gather under the plates. Move your air hoses up some.

Someday you may want to try different types of filtration....
Good luck..
 
Pull the airline up farther in the tube. Had the same problem, the air stone was putting air under the gravel and it would accumulate on an uneven side of the tank (old house) where when it got big enough it would rise to the surface regularly in a big bubble scaring the crap out of everyone in the tank.
 
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