Has anyone heard of anything like this?

Watcher74

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Hi all,

I'm from the freshwater side but had a question on behalf of my father-in-law.

He's kept a saltwater tank for a very long time. As long as my wife can remember. About a year or two ago, he added some live food to his fish. A couple hours later the tank was infested with thousands of some kind of tiny white bugs that killed off most of his fish.

Since then he has kept only the survivors(Which now equals one eel and 1 other fish I'd don't know what it is).

He has searched around to try and find out what these white bugs were that are fatal to fish and so have I but neither of us can find anything.

I just think it's a shame for him to have such a large beautiful tank with only two inhabitants because he can't figure out what these things were, if they are still in there and waiting to kill any new fish introduced.

Any ideas?
 
If it was live fish, then it might have been cryptocaryon (marine ich) or amyloodimium (marine velvet).

What was the food, and how long did it take to kill the fish?
 
Personally I wouldnt be so quick to say that the "white bugs" are the source of the death chamber (his tank).

I often notice white bugs in my salt tanks, and they have been ID'd as beneficial bugs to my tank.

I'd get him or you to check out the tanks paramaters to make sure they are okay before blaming the live feeders for the situation. Sure it sounds by your post that once he fed the livefish, then the bugs appeared and killed off his fish, but how long did that take? Has he ever observed his tank at night with a flashlight to see just how many "white bugs" are already present in a salt tank?

Theres so many possibilities here and we dont have any facts to go on, so I dont believe anyone can make an educated guess as to what happened.

If he's still got fish living in the tank (and I DONT KNOW WHAT FISH THEY ARE), assuming they are not damsels, then for how long have they been living since the incident happened? If they are more fragile fish and are still around say a month or more afterwards, then it's reasonably safe to assume that some more fish could be added to the tank.

I had a death chamber tank myself, but eventually I determined (and I may actually be wrong) that it became polluted by things such as plastic cleaner and polisher that may have inadvertantly entered the tank, or colognes that were left over on my arms after throughly rinsing my arms in as hot of water as I could stand.

So many possiblities, but so little information to really go on.

Goodluck,
 
mogurnda,

Thank you for your reply. I will look into that possibility

SaltyMist,

Sorry to frustrate you so much on your 2nd post here but since I DON"T KEEP SALTWATER FISH I don't know what they are. He did have a parrot fish until the eel killed him about 4-5 months ago. The eel has white and black bands on him if that helps.

As I clearly stated in my original post this happened well over a year ago, more likely two. This tank has also been in operation for 7 years, with the eel being one of the original inhabitants. So I seriously doubt that after 5-6 years with no great die off, and then immediately after live food being added, white bugs appearing, and 75% of the fish dieing within 2 days that the tank was a death chamber. Possible? Yes. Likely with the facts I know of? Highly doubtful.

I have studied the tank before very closely and have not noticed a single white bug of any manner.

If someone thinks they can help me better with precise details I would be happy to try and obtain them.

I would just like to know any possible creatures that resemble tiny white bugs that might cause fish death in saltwater tanks.

Thank you.
 
Sorry if I came off as sounding frustrated with your post, Im really not. But a lot of people on other forums (myself included) have posted about white bugs or as I term then white sand fleas, which live in the live sandbed of most salt tanks and non harmfull and only benefficial.

I've never in all my years in this hobby seen ICH swimming around the tank, though I know that ich will come out of a fish at a certain stage and this is when it's killed off by ich treatments.

So it seems kind of unlikely that it was ich that came from the live feeders, though I whole heartedly agree that ich often comes into tanks by goldfish and other live feeder fish. My first goldfish came in with ich and died within 72 hours, but I never noticed any ich swimming around. Now Im not saying it doesnt happen, and Ive been fortunate enough to never have had any of my marine fish contract ich so perhaps as mogurnda said that it's a form of marine ich that Ive been lucky enough to always avoid.

Anyway, I would suggest to him to go ahead and put another fish in there and see what happens, since it happened a year or two ago, he's obviously got a well established tank and if theres still life in the tank (as you posted there is) then he can certainly add another fish to the tank at this point.

The only thing I would be worried about is a fish being added that is too small and might become eel food, though I have no experience with marine eels and limited experience with freshwater rubber band eels (YUCK! they just give me the eb gb's).

Again, goodluck to you and him.
 
Although there are free swimming stages in both of the diseases I mentioned, they are essentially invisible. I was thinking maybe he saw the spots on the fish at some point soon after (like a few days) the feeders were added.

As I recall (and one of the fish experts can correct me), eels tend to be resistant to ich because they have a very thick slime layer. May explain why it survived.

Most SW tanks have a lot of harmless tiny white dots running around on various surfaces. They usually aren't swimming, though. Most of these are copepods, which can be thought of as scavengers and snacks.
 
Thanks for all the information. I'll relay all the information you both have given me, find out exactly which types of fish survived, which died, and exactly what he saw and see if I can find something that matches up.

Appreciate all the help.
 
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