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Puffalufagus
04-15-2004, 10:52 PM
I am wondering because I have a 75g tank with a lunare wrasse, a dogface, and barred rabbitfish and a tomato clown. After 2 weeks of qt, the puffer developed ich after 3 days in the show tank. this has been a week and I was hoping he would kick it after he gets settled but he hasn't gotten better. no worse either.. (about 10 salt specs) I also noticed the rabbit fish has a couple now too. the others are fine right now and all are eating like pigs and act perfectly normal. I do not want to nuke my biofilter with a copper product. (i have seacure but have not used it.) I would like it if anyone can give be any personal experience or thoughts about my using Kent RX-P. I bought a bottle but didn't do anything yet. any thoughts??

the tank has been up for 2 years and no prior diseases..

amonia, nitrite are 0 and nitrates are 15ppm. temp is 78 and sg is 1.023. my filter is a bio ball wet/dry system. Any ideas?? I would like it if I could get something safer than copper but still give results.. Also, I have no inverts or corals..

thanks, Puffalufagus

OrionGirl
04-16-2004, 8:16 AM
Look for a thread from gbolton with ich in the title--it's still on the first page. He used this product in his reef, and was happy with the results. If you have inverts, he indicated that you'd want to mix it and dose, rather than following the full directions--I'm sure he'd be happy to give you the full course he followed.

GL

gbolton
04-16-2004, 11:01 AM
Take a look at my thread and see if it makes sense I detailed how I dosed in there and what reactions I observec. But please feel free to ask anything that isnt clear. Hope it helps

Greg

Puffalufagus
04-16-2004, 9:43 PM
Thanks!!!:) I started tonight with a dip of the infected fish using 1 gallon of water and a capfull of rxp. the fish did fine.. after 15 minutes I put them in the tank again and added the rxp at 2 teaspoons per gallon. I mixed it with a gallon of water from the tank and added it to the sump. So far there have been no changes in the fishes at all (as far as behavior i mean) I noticed that the skimmer slowed down to almost no foam. I thought it would be opposite and try to pull the stuff out. however, I will adjust it as needed. I feel better about this treatment being safer for the fish and Bio filter.. I just hope it works. Like I said earlier, the fish that are effected are still acting normally like nothing is wrong and I am hopefull that this will be succesful since the fish are still quite strong buggers... I will keep you updated...


-Puff

Puffalufagus
04-17-2004, 10:56 PM
Day 2....

P.H. and all other parameters are same with no fluctuations. the puffer has more spots on him than before but is still acting fine and eating. the rabbitfish has no more (and no less) spots on him. I repeated the RXP dip on the puffer and rabbit fish. 2 hours later they are fine as before. Waiting for next treatment. The skimmer,since treatment the first time has absolutely NO production. I tweaked it as much as I possibly can but there is nothing foaming up. hower I will keep trying. The hard part is patience..

I'm not gonna lose this puffer!!

next update tomorrow..


-Puff

gbolton
04-17-2004, 11:18 PM
Great updates. This is the type of info we all need to see how the treatments work out. thanks Greg

Puffalufagus
04-18-2004, 7:53 PM
day 3.... 2nd dose.

the puffer has a good amount of spots on him and the rabbit fish has a couple more. They both are acting normally and enjoyed the krill for tonight's dinning pleasure;) I added the dose and checked everything and all is good. The skimmer was foaming this afternoon for the first time since 1st treatment. as I poured the rxp (mixed with tankwater) in...and the skimmer stopped foaming imediately. (skimmers do not like RX-P I am finding out). anyway, that's all to report for now.. I'm hoping the spots will lessen soon or after next treatment. As long as I keep them eating and in good water quality I think I can wait it out and see if this is product is gonna work.

next update tomorrow


-Puff

Puffalufagus
04-19-2004, 11:22 PM
Day 4....


All is the same in the tank tonight.... all fish feeding, parameters are same... spots are same also. no changes at all to report.

next update tomorrow after 3rd dose...



-Puff

Puffalufagus
04-20-2004, 11:34 AM
day 5.. 3rd dose...


I added the third dose today.... I have not seen any mprovement whatsoever on these fish. If the spots do not improve in the very near futre I will discontinue and use copper. The RPX so far does not seem to effect anything yet it, if will at all. I am beginning to believe that this may be a witch doctor formula.. however I will try to hold off a day.

-Puff

gbolton
04-20-2004, 2:19 PM
Hmm hate to hear that it worked great for me.

Are the spots any worse? How many capfuls are you adding to the 75?

Puffalufagus
04-21-2004, 12:13 AM
I have been adding 6 capfulls per dose... I don't have any inverts, you think I should up the dosage maybe?....



-Puff

gbolton
04-21-2004, 9:41 AM
Im not sure if you should or shouldn't I used an 85% of reccomended dossage and saw quick results .... Maybe my fish were just healthy enough to throw it not sure.

Puffalufagus
04-21-2004, 5:36 PM
day 6....


All is the same... the spots are not better or worse either. I have started to soak freeze dried krill with garlic extreme.. just to help the fishes keep up their appetite andenergy. The puffer seems not as sociable as before but is still coming out to eat when food is offered... the rabbit fish it seems don't know he's sick and is all over the tank as usual. the others show no sign of any infection other than that, there has been no change yet. I will keep this up for a week since treatment started.. after that, I will probably start a copper treatment...


-Puff

Puffalufagus
04-23-2004, 11:10 PM
Day 7 and 4th dose....

No changes.... note at all. Fish are still hanging in there though. I will add carbon tonight and do a 20% water change in the morning...

I will start a treatment of copper either tomorrow or the next day.

I have at the very least learned one good thing about all this.... Fish sure love garlic. :D


Anyhow, I gave it a full week following the manufacturer's full instructions to the letter. For me, I didn't see any results. I could have poured water in ang gotten the same results. I don't think it's wise to continue with RXP. Copper is still tried and true although I didn't want to go that way.....

Gave my puffer a fresh watter dip tonight... boy he was pissed.. always seems happier about 1 hour afterward though

-Puff :p

Puffalufagus
05-01-2004, 10:50 PM
Update:

It's been a while since last update, sorry. As before in my post, I went and started a copper treatment on mt tank. after 7 days, I can report that none of the fish show any signs of the disease .
Who-hoo!!!

I will continue the copper for 1 more week before I run the carbon and do the large water change. I thought ahead and took my fluidized bed filter out and hooked it to a 10 gallon tank before I added the copper. Like I thought, the copper knocked down my wet dry filter and amonia has been rising. I have kept this low by water changes. so far the fish seem fine. I will put the fluidized filter back in after treatment is over and copper is gone...

Will keep you all posted...


-Puff :)

Puffalufagus
05-20-2004, 10:33 PM
Well, after giving up on RXP, and completing a full schedule of copper, 3 weeks later and the fish are better than ever. I will try to attatch a picture of "Poppy-Chulo" the puffer and "Rabbie"
the barred rabbitfish....

-Puff


http://waffenss.aowc.net/user/files/11904/untitled-33.jpg http://waffenss.aowc.net/user/files/11904/untitled-34.jpg

Puffalufagus
05-20-2004, 10:39 PM
man!!!! sorry those were soooo... big... and blurry. thise rascals are hard to snap... anyway, you get the idea.. ICK FREE!!!!!


-Puff