anyone want a clown

[pollock701]

i have a clown that has out grown his tank i bought him when he was about 2" now he is 11" i have him in a 45 gal. hex so he can still move around really well but he needs bigger. i would be glade to trade someone or just ship him off you pay the shipping . stores he would sale him for about 75.00 but i know the prices here are very over priced so please be kind also my three year old doughter named him after her "Sam"

thanks Dustin

[Pufferpunk]

Do you mean clown loach? That's a FW fish.

[pollock701]

12" clown knife

[Pufferpunk]

Cool fish, but very aggressive at that size. Still a FW fish.

[pollock701]

nope hes been a brackish from the start at my home. lps said he was brak so what do i know hes just fine in there like i said he disapired for about 2 weeks when he came out he was 2 times the size he was when he disapired all my tanks are brak

[Pufferpunk]

It may be in a BW tank, but these fish come from dark, acidic, soft freshwater. What specific gravity do you keep your BW tanks at?

[pollock701]

i dont ever and havent tested for gravity but i do 30% change about once a month and about 3 tsp. prer gal a month maybe i need to be more into it but i never have had to .besides most of the lps here dont even know what brackish means . thanks for all the good ideas hopefully i can really expand my set ups

[Pufferpunk]

1 tbsp/gal isn't BW, only slightly salted water. True BW is 1.005 SG & over. That's probably why your knife hasn't been bothered by the salt. If you want BW, you'll need a hydrometer. Just curious, how old are you? :)

[pollock701]

i am 26 and you

[pollock701]

man why have i had no problems with any of the other fish in my tank GS puffer, the clown knife , FW moray , shovel nose cat ?? its a 45 hex what should i be putting in ? what does my age have to do with it ? thank you for all your help this is just the piler of info i have been loking for

thanks Dustin

[Pufferpunk]

Don't worry about the age question, just curious. :) I'm still curious though.

You have a lot of fish that are going to be getting pretty large. The shovelnose catfish gets 18-24" & will eat anything that isn't big enough to avoid being on the menu. It is also an soft, acid-loving, Amazon fish. The moray is definately BW-SW. So is the puffer & the puffer will either make lunch of the eel, or be lunch to the catfish. Puffers belong in species only tanks. I would get rid of the knife & catfish, put the eel in another tank & get some more GSPs.

[Pufferpunk]

LOL, here's your catfish:

http://www.planetcatfish.com/ilibrary/pimelodi/pseudopl/328_4.htm

Sorry, I didn't see your age posted. I'm 43.

[pollock701]

thanks for the picture i'll show it to my wife. about the size i just bought that 180 gal. just need to set it up. can i set it up w/o lights and just a h.o.t. magnum caniter just fo cycleing? or do i need all the stuff?

[Pufferpunk]

If the canister is already running on your established tank, it's probably ok. If not, you are going to have to cycle the tank.

See: http://www.tomgriffin.com/aquamag/cycling.html

&: http://www.tomgriffin.com/aquamag/cycle2.html

There's no other way to do it, since you will be adding large fish to a new tank. Are you going to keep the clown then? It's such a cool fish!

[pollock701]

man it is a cool fish you should see him eat i think i will put him in the pond to lol

[pollock701]

thank you for the links i just printed them out and will read them over the weekend maybe if you can send me as much on puffers i really thing on doing the all puffer tank in the hex so i need to know size compadibilty you know i am also get ing the hydrometer this weekend so i can go real brak .

thanks dustin

[Pufferpunk]

I have 2 (5") GSPs & a (3") Ceylon puffer (hard to find) in a 45g. They look like they will be comfortable in there. 2-3 adult GSPs should be ok in your tank, if they all get along. How large is the puffer you have now?

[pollock701]

hes about 3" gose by hooty kids and names lol

[Pufferpunk]

Hooty's a good name. I like when kids name my fish. It's getting harder to think of them the more I get. My fahaka puffer is Filbert, 1 GSP-Cricket (likes them), other GSP-Bozo, Ceylon-Cammie, 3 SA puffers-Edgar, Ethyl & LB (lil Bugger), 2 red eye puffers-Pixie & Pugsly.

[kablam]

They are predator fish. There is a difference between a fish being aggressive and being a predator.
Puffers tend to be aggressive, nipping on fins of other fish that come in their established territory. Clown Knifes, bicher eels, and moray eels are predators, they eat what fits in their mouth, but they aren't territorial. If there is another fish in the same tank that won't fit in their mouth, they tend to leave it alone
Just wanted to clear that up.

[Shikkapow]

welll isnt eating the ENTIRE fish considered fin nipping to the extreme???? :D :D :D

[Pufferpunk]

Yeah, i was thinking the same thing. the fish getting eaten has got to feel like the other fish is aggressive. :D I have had elephant noses, ghost knives, brown knives & baby whales. Depending on the particulatr fish, some of them seemed to be very aggressive. My baby whale insisted that no other fish be allowed in his half of a 90gal tank. All the other fish were crowded on one side.

[pollock701]

i look at it this way my wife just got a really good deal on a jack dempsie i put him in the same set up with the knife and he started biting him my knife to my knolage has never niped any of my fish other then nipping lol



thanks dustin