can you mix neon tetras with salfin mollies? Because the are really small and i was wondering if they could get eaten.
Neon tetras
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I've had neons and sunset platies with no problems... I'm 99.9% sure that platies are calm fish -- of course there are always exceptions with bad or mean "fishionality" 
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~Tara
Mollys and neons should be fine together as species personalities go. The neons might actually benefit from the salt that the mollys require as well.
A) Mollies do not require salt. They need high TDS, which can be from the addition of salt or hard water.
B) Neons like soft water, with low TDS--and no salt. Neons can tolerate salt for medicinal treatments, but will not thrive if it's constantly there.
IMO, the 2 may be compatible in behavior, but have very different water requirements. You won't be able to meet either's preferences completely, and the middle ground may not be adequate for either. I'd go with a different combo, IMT.
B) Neons like soft water, with low TDS--and no salt. Neons can tolerate salt for medicinal treatments, but will not thrive if it's constantly there.
IMO, the 2 may be compatible in behavior, but have very different water requirements. You won't be able to meet either's preferences completely, and the middle ground may not be adequate for either. I'd go with a different combo, IMT.
OG...still following me around me huh? You probably don't know this, but this behaviour from you is one of the main reasons I left AC years ago...Come to think of it I'm looking around now and I don't see very many of the original cast of truly knowledgable folks that used to make AC such a quality site. I wonder if there is a correlation ;-)
#1...sorry for simplifying things...it is MUCH easier to say "add a little salt" than it is to explain TDS...
#2...Neons on the market today are mass produced in medium hard water in large concrete vats in Thailand and are many years COMPLETELY removed from any trace of their original "soft water" requirements. LONG before the days of knowledge being passed between the internet "parrots" so common on these boards, salt was recognized as a successful treatment for and guard against many ailments including NTD. I would love to show you some of the original manuscripts, but it contradicts what you have learned on AC and therefore you probably wouldn't believe it anyway.
My advice stands...neons and mollys should co-exist perfectly well (given enough tank space of course ;-) ) and the neons will benefit from the addition of a little salt...
#1...sorry for simplifying things...it is MUCH easier to say "add a little salt" than it is to explain TDS...
#2...Neons on the market today are mass produced in medium hard water in large concrete vats in Thailand and are many years COMPLETELY removed from any trace of their original "soft water" requirements. LONG before the days of knowledge being passed between the internet "parrots" so common on these boards, salt was recognized as a successful treatment for and guard against many ailments including NTD. I would love to show you some of the original manuscripts, but it contradicts what you have learned on AC and therefore you probably wouldn't believe it anyway.
My advice stands...neons and mollys should co-exist perfectly well (given enough tank space of course ;-) ) and the neons will benefit from the addition of a little salt...
Be paranoid if you like--my posts are not based on any individual member. I actually have a number of sources for my information. Yes, neons are kept in a variety of waters successfully, and are no longer as fussy about the requirements. However, IME, this flexibility does not extend to salt. If you have experience that differs, please, I am interested in hearing it. I'll change my opinion and the advice I offer when I am confidant that the 'new' information is accurate. I'm not in favor of going with the 'easy' explanation--these are not concepts that are difficult to understand and I would prefer to have people understand why they do something than to take it on faith because "XYZ" said so.
If you have a problem with my personally, fine. Tell me about it, preferably not in the open forums. If you have a problem with me as a moderator, pass your complaints along to Dale. This is a volunteer position, and while I enjoy helping out, I assure you there are more headaches associated with it than pleasure. If the Admin tells me my services are no longer needed based on member feedback, it won't hurt my feelings one bit.
If you have a problem with my personally, fine. Tell me about it, preferably not in the open forums. If you have a problem with me as a moderator, pass your complaints along to Dale. This is a volunteer position, and while I enjoy helping out, I assure you there are more headaches associated with it than pleasure. If the Admin tells me my services are no longer needed based on member feedback, it won't hurt my feelings one bit.
Don't forget the fact that you are the one who challenged me. You stated that your basis for contradicting me was based on your experience ("IME") therefore I think the burdon is much more heavily on your end to lay out specific experience where your neons failed to thrive when you added salt to their environment. Did you do any controlled experimentation that proved or even indicated that your "salted" group lived a shorter lifespan than the "non-salted" group? I'm very curious what your reference point was that you based your "failure to thrive" knowledge on...was it their size? Did the "salted" group fail to reach the same adult length as the "non salted" group? I would SO love to hear the experience that you called upon.OrionGirl said:
I have no problems with your moderation...just make sure you are ready to back it up with facts if you choose to contradict a post of mine or anyone elses...Internet "hearsay" is not evidence...
Which applies equally to everyone here. In my role as a moderator, I do not challenge facts, assertions, or any other content of a post that is not in voilation of the TOS. When I need to make a comment from the role of moderator, I try to always make them in italics, and put 'OG" at the end of the statement. Moderating means keeping the peace, keeping threads clean and in the right forum. Period. All comments, suggestions and advice I offer about fish tanks are from ME. Not the position.
Here's my experience: Had a 15 tank with 7 neons, 2 mollies (both males, from a friends tank). Being an idiot, I added an unquarantined pair of females from a local store. They introduced ich to the tank. Treated with salt alone (many years ago, now days I would boost temp and use less salt). My water was fairly soft, mid-range TDS from wood in the tank. I added 2 tablespoon of salt per gallon of water (about 10--loads of gravel and wood). The ich cleared up, and I was in the process of removing the salt via water changes. The source of the male mollies indicated I should leave the salt in there, at a slightly lower amount, for the mollies. I did so, and the neons all died within the next 6 months. Since this was the only change in the setup, I suspect the salt played a role in their demise. This was about 10+ years ago, so I readily admit the brood stock for neons has likely changed since that time. If it's currently much more tolerant of salt, fine. Obtaining the conditions needed for mollies doesn't require salt--and without the appropriate tools to monitor salinity, I don't think it's the best way to provide the conditions for the fish, though.
Here's my experience: Had a 15 tank with 7 neons, 2 mollies (both males, from a friends tank). Being an idiot, I added an unquarantined pair of females from a local store. They introduced ich to the tank. Treated with salt alone (many years ago, now days I would boost temp and use less salt). My water was fairly soft, mid-range TDS from wood in the tank. I added 2 tablespoon of salt per gallon of water (about 10--loads of gravel and wood). The ich cleared up, and I was in the process of removing the salt via water changes. The source of the male mollies indicated I should leave the salt in there, at a slightly lower amount, for the mollies. I did so, and the neons all died within the next 6 months. Since this was the only change in the setup, I suspect the salt played a role in their demise. This was about 10+ years ago, so I readily admit the brood stock for neons has likely changed since that time. If it's currently much more tolerant of salt, fine. Obtaining the conditions needed for mollies doesn't require salt--and without the appropriate tools to monitor salinity, I don't think it's the best way to provide the conditions for the fish, though.
Molly Neon Combo
Hey im just a newbie,
I have "sailfin" gold dust mollies and neon tetras together and they get along very well. I know the water parems I have are not ideal for the neons but I bought them from a store in my area and they seem to be thriving--and from what little experience i have had neons are very sensitive to table salt ich treatment and other ich meds
Hey im just a newbie,
I have "sailfin" gold dust mollies and neon tetras together and they get along very well. I know the water parems I have are not ideal for the neons but I bought them from a store in my area and they seem to be thriving--and from what little experience i have had neons are very sensitive to table salt ich treatment and other ich meds
IMHO, anyone buying SE Asian bred neons will have quite enough issues with NTD, antibiotic resistant septicemias, and other assoted metabolic issues that pH is likely to be far down the list. NIMFT.
Sorry, but I do not remember a "Tommy", and I have been around since before OG. OG is one of the better and more knowledgeable mods operating here, past or present. But that is beside the point here - here the point is that you may dispute freely anyone's techniques or information, but when you attack the person and not the information you declare yourself to be a troll. Trolls as a class are not allowed here, thankfully. If you plan to hang around, please reconsider and re-evaluate your discussion techniques.
Sorry, but I do not remember a "Tommy", and I have been around since before OG. OG is one of the better and more knowledgeable mods operating here, past or present. But that is beside the point here - here the point is that you may dispute freely anyone's techniques or information, but when you attack the person and not the information you declare yourself to be a troll. Trolls as a class are not allowed here, thankfully. If you plan to hang around, please reconsider and re-evaluate your discussion techniques.