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MikefromNH
12-12-2004, 8:06 PM
My tank finished cycling about a week ago and lucky for me, NO DEAD FISH.:dance

DISCLAIMER- To all newbies, like myself..........by no means am I suggesting that my method is safe!!!! I, unintentionally, totally went against what the "fish gurus" suggest here.


Anyway, I set up my 90 gal 5 weeks ago. Here's how I stocked it.

Day 1) 2 swordtails 2 angelfish
Day 2) 4 head/tail light tetras
Day 3)
Day 4) 3 more angelfish
Day 5) 4 platys
Day 6)
Day 7) 2 serpae
Day 8) 2 opaline gourami 2 pearl gourami
Day 9)
Day 10)
Day 11) 2 more serpae 2 powder blue gourami
Day 12) 2 shark catfish 2 rainbow catfish

29 FISH total!!

That is how the tank remained til' the end of the cycle. In addition to the fish listed above there is now a clown pleco. I believe it is maxed out now and I understand I'll have to take steps in the future to relocate some fish as they grow. I got 90% of the fish at my LFS. The woman there, after the first 15 fish, kept telling me to keep an eye on the water because there would be ammonia and nitrite spikes.

I checked the water every day and up until the end of the cycle the test results never showed more than 2ppm nitrite and 1ppm ammonia. I used 2 different tests to eliminate any question there. At one point my only filter, a Mag 350, broke (imp shaft) and the tank was unfiltered for 24 hrs. I replaced it with a Filstar xp-3 and used the filter sleeve from the Magnum in one of the media baskets of the xp-3 for a jump start.

I did partial changes no more than 6 times equaling no more than 200% of the total capacity. In other words 33%, 33%, 50% 33% 50%.....or something along those lines. The fish never showed signs of stress or general unhealthyness.

The only chemical used was Start-Right water conditioner from Jungle Labs, no Bio-Spira, Stress-Zyme, etc....

I understand I took a chance here. I went with the advise of my LFS. I didn't become a member here til' 2 weeks after I set up the tank but if I had joined earlier I definately wouldn't have stocked it so quickly.

Why did my cycling go so well? Tank size? Fish size? Rate of fish introduction? While it took 4 weeks:( , it seemed to go too easy for me. What gives???

To the "fish gurus"- Please don't take this post as an attack on your knowlege. After joining the forum I read soooo many posts that made me think my fish were going to die. I'm just writing this because, according to most related posts here, it seems like an unusual situation and I'm excited to tell all.

Maybe there is nothing unusual about my cycle but, again, NEWBIES please don't do what I did. I don't want to be the guy people point fingers at if something goes wrong!

Later....

Blinky
12-12-2004, 8:26 PM
You didn't do anything terrible; you actually cycled your tank the way people have been doing it for a long time.
I really believe a fishless cycle is the way to go, but if someone's going to cycle with fish I'd actually recommend they do it much the way you did - adding fish slowly and doing water changes, testing NH3, NO2 and NO3 all the way.
I'm so glad your cycle's done and the fish are happy and healthy :D

MikefromNH
12-12-2004, 10:31 PM
You didn't do anything terrible; you actually cycled your tank the way people have been doing it for a long time.
I really believe a fishless cycle is the way to go, but if someone's going to cycle with fish I'd actually recommend they do it much the way you did - adding fish slowly and doing water changes, testing NH3, NO2 and NO3 all the way.
I'm so glad your cycle's done and the fish are happy and healthy :D

Thanks, Blinky:D . I don't know if I necessarily added the fish slowly, 29 fish in 13 days, but I bet a major reason I didn't have any problems was the fact it's a fairly large tank.

Unfortunately the tank is pretty much stocked (I think). So many fish....so few tanks;). I came down with an acute case of MTS at the LFS the other day and purchased a 36 bowfront as a second tank. I'll be more cautious with this cycle though I was able to put a used/colonized filter sleeve from my Mag 350 as a jumpstarter.

Fishsmurf
12-13-2004, 3:45 AM
Mike - Congrats on completing the cycle. Personally I can't think any-one here will attack your method for a number of reasons:
1) Like Blinky said until few years ago this is the way that every-one cycled a tank.
2) Although fishless cycling is the prefered cycling method for most on AC, it isn't a rule or a membership requirment
3) Your way worked (with incredibly low ammonia and nitrite readings due to the large tank volume and light bio-load).

Ideally I would prefer people to go fishless, but hey, each person has the right to choose the method that suits them best and this worked for you. Congrats again...
So what you planning to put in the 36g (once it's cycled ;) )?...

amosf
12-13-2004, 4:00 AM
Ditto on what a lot of the others have said. I'm from a ways back and that's how it was done - slowly adding fish. Even when I recently started back into fish I did much the same thing, tho I used local gudgeons in the tank to get through most of the cycle as these guys are tough and not as easily effected by nitrites as some species. After you have the one tank up and running you can then kickstart the next tanks a bit easier...

Now I'm not saying you might still have problems, But I have had tetras drop off in the months following a cycle and it may be a result of the stresses during the cycle - or maybe not. It's hard to say with some of these guys as they can be a little on the sensative side.

daveedka
12-13-2004, 6:49 AM
Agreed with other responses, also with your suspicions. wigher volumes of water are more stable, You started out with a lot of fish, but I imagine they are small at this point. Small fish don't produce as much waste, and if you didn't overfeed you could easily do what you have done. I have kept fish for many years, and didn't hear about fishless cycling until I came here. Of the two methods, I much prefer the fishless, but do not consider it a crime to do a fishy cycle if the best interest of the fish is kept in mind. You may have stocked heavier than I would have reccomended, but as said it was done before you knew. Once it is done, testing and water changes become the key, and it seems you did what was needed. Glad you got through it OK.

Dave