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a while ago my red zebra was pregnant w/ babies, i moved her to a breeding tank to raise them and unfortunatly they all died. Now it has been over a month and she just now hangs out at the top of the tank floating there. now my peacock has started the same thing. I have treated the tank for bactirial infections and fungal and fed medicated food to no avail. There is no fin clamping and both thier appitites are more than good. They eat sprinila flakes, tetra min pro, the occasianal frozen blood worn treat and occasianal brine shrimp treat. The tank conditions for the breeding tank a month ago were
Nitrite=0
Ammonia=0
Nitrate=25 ppm
Hardness= 12
pH= 7.9
temp= 85

The test today in the main tank revealed
Nitrite=0
Ammonia=0
Nitrate=25 ppm
Hardness= 12
pH= 7.9
temp= 85
the excact same thing. There are no signs of baterial infection or any infection whatsoever. The chemicals have been filtered out of the water too, so that isnt it. What is wrong with my fishies.
 
Another thing could be the temperature.....anything over 78-80 IMO is too high for tropical fish. The only time I would break 80 is to fight an ich infection, drop your temp back down to 78-80. That might not be the problem, but if you recently moved the affected fish from a tank with a lower temp immidiately to this tank with a high temp then that could have adversly affected him.


Best of luck!!
 
It is not agression, ik that, they both were dominant in the tank, and no one is picking on them now, no one even notices they exist. There are 2 zebras 1 fuelliborni 2 hap ahli 1 auratus 3 johanni. The peacock is the largest in the tank, and the red zebra in question is not excaclt small. Like i said, no one is picking on them, and once they realize im by the tank they come for food. Ill try lowering the temp, and i just added some magnesium salts, which ik are best for malawi. Ill hold off on the blood worms, ik they are high protien and i only feed it 1 time a month. Ill stick to the algea based food. This is just very odd, it isnt like him and her. They here never like this before. i hope it goes ok cause my peacock is an award winning male and i want to breed him, and the red zebra is a nice breeding female. I hope they are ok.
 
Seaman said:
Another thing could be the temperature.....anything over 78-80 IMO is too high for tropical fish. The only time I would break 80 is to fight an ich infection, drop your temp back down to 78-80. That might not be the problem, but if you recently moved the affected fish from a tank with a lower temp immidiately to this tank with a high temp then that could have adversly affected him.


Best of luck!!
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I have to disagree on the first sentence there.

Fish such as Discus or other amazonian fish prefer higher temperatures (82 and and up).

Also, the reason they are called tropical is for a reason...... I mean sure, avoid extremes, but you know what I mean.

Mid 70's to Early 80's is usually the ideal range for tropical fish.
 
new devlopment. They only do it in the day time. This is so odd, could it just be habits that they have develped and when the zebra did it the peacock said "hey that looks fun" and did it? and i agree, to my understanding fish like it warm, most discus keepers keep the temp near 87, i think my 82 (current temp) is fine, ive never had anything diff, that is the constant, i have to find what changed in my tank.
 
I had a few cichlids and they would hide up at the top of the tank when there wasn't hiding places for all the fish. Its good to have at least two hiding places per fish. How big is your tank and do you have any pics?
 
Yeah i still think it might be aggression, even if there are no visible signs of voilence or you dont witness any chasing. Whenever i have fish hide at the top of the tank its because someone is bothering them... even if thier fins are not ripped. Auratus and fulleborni are very aggressive fish, and would most likely be the cause. My dominant fulleborni male is not the largest fish in the tank but is by far the boss. The makes the other male hide all the time and stay near the top in the plants, but the sub-male doesnt have any evidence on his body to show it.

And yes the temp for these fish should be lower, it might have an effect on thier digestion... they should have a temp of about 78F.

These fish are mostly bottom-dwelling fish, even the haps never go right near the surface in the wild, so when they start hanging out near the surface of the tank something is usually wrong.

Try adding more hiding places and see if that helps.

-Diana
 
I already did make many hiding places, and still to no avail. I dont eblieve it is agression, no one even notices them. the feulliborni is always chasing the auratus and visa versa. no one even cares about the peacock, now the red zebra may very well be agrssion because the male has chosen her to breed this time, and she seems reluctant, but jsut not this morning she is fine and in a cave chilling (no eggs though :( ) and the peacock is up at the top. Ik this isnt normal but he is physically ok, and is eating fine, and comes out for me.
I dont know what it is, i may be wrong it may be agression that im not seeing, but i just can wrap my head around it. Ik somthing is bothering him,
the temp is now 78 and i feed boiled peas just in case it is constipation (even though for that they will hang out on the bottem) im trying everything.
 
Do you have pelnty of space for your fish?

Also, with the red devils I had, there was one that was picked on at first and then when it stayed at the top it was left alone. Don't necessarily look at which fish is getting picked on, but which fish defends what territory and what territory is left. You fish won't go out of their way to bully another fish usually. They only pick on the fish that go into their territory. So if the fish at the top stays at the top, then he/she won't get picked on. This fish could be at the bottom of the pecking order an is terrified of the other fish do just stays at the top so it doesn't have to fight. If so, the problem is still agression because there isn't enough space for all the fish to have their own territory.
 
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