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threejjj
05-01-2005, 6:16 PM
What is the smallest tank that I could keep an Albino Tiger Oscar in? He would be the only fish in the tank. The LFS has some that are about 2 inches. Are Albinos any different that regular tiger oscars other than color?

Mako
05-01-2005, 6:22 PM
Minimum tank for sub-adult (6 inches or bigger) would be a 55, and that's fitting him in there with a shoe-horn. I don't know that I've ever seen a pair of happy oscars in a 55. A 75 is a better choice. The difference that swimming room makes is amazing.


Albinos are just a tough as the regular guys, and are neat pets. They tend to get this "dirty" look to them as they age, with some browning on the edge of the fins. I'm not a big albino oscar fan, I think the brown/red tigers are quite attractive, but to each his own...

threejjj
05-01-2005, 6:33 PM
What is a simalar fish that i could put into a 3ft long tank, Jack Dempsy,Green Terror,or Convict??
Thanks

rich311k
05-01-2005, 6:49 PM
Any of those fish would work in a 3 foot tank. Two would be a squeeze.

cyberbeer65
05-01-2005, 7:50 PM
This is what I have as described below.....

rich311k
05-01-2005, 8:14 PM
a 100 gallon is twice the size of the tank you are describing.

Mako
05-01-2005, 8:33 PM
A true 100 is fantastic for big oscars, dempseys, terrors. The green terror may give you an aggression fit as they grow and space becomes more of a premium. A Green Severum is a good replacement. Then only the dempsey may give an aggression fit, depending on individual personality.

symryk
07-13-2005, 11:29 PM
for the last week my oscar (brutis) a 12 inch albino oscar has been spending a great deal of time at the surface and sometimes floating on his side.
i've read a bucket load of stories on oscars but none have said anything about this problem. my ph is good and the tank does'nt smell, the tank has a 2/3s water change every week.i am now becoming quite worried
CAN ANYONE HELP PLEASE :huh:

PumaWard
07-14-2005, 10:22 AM
Minimum tank for sub-adult (6 inches or bigger) would be a 55, and that's fitting him in there with a shoe-horn. I

Yeah, if you like not being able to turn around well.

Oscars get 12-14''... 55g tanks are 12'' wide. They should be given at least a couple inches turn around space. The best (standard) tank for oscars is a 75g.

Ascalon
07-15-2005, 2:57 PM
for the last week my oscar (brutis) a 12 inch albino oscar has been spending a great deal of time at the surface and sometimes floating on his side.
i've read a bucket load of stories on oscars but none have said anything about this problem. my ph is good and the tank does'nt smell, the tank has a 2/3s water change every week.i am now becoming quite worried
CAN ANYONE HELP PLEASE :huh:
Hey there, I'm new to this forum, but certainly not new to Oscars. In order to help you better it would help to know the exact water parameters you have.
NitrItes, NitrAtes, Ammonia.
What size tank is he in? How long has he been in it?

symryk
07-16-2005, 12:22 AM
howdy ascalon
to give you some idea as to how new i am to this game, ihave a couple of questions for you
what is fishless cycle
what are water paramiters and what do i need to check these topics.
i have a 4 foot tank, in the tank there is 1 heater
2 filters 1 is a rio-1400lph the other is a aqua 1 (103)
various rocks and aunaments and through the middle of the tank is a 18" air stone aswell as 5 artifical plants.
i would like to be able to add a photo of my tank but as yet i have'nt worked out how to do it
thanking you for your help
symryk

FishFreak101
07-16-2005, 8:44 AM
Probaly everybody is going to disagree with me but a 35-40gallon wood be ok and i did say "ok" not perfect.

PumaWard
07-17-2005, 1:18 PM
You're probably right ;).

An oscar would not be even a little bit comfortable in a 35-40, and would not stay healthy long term in most cases (there are always exceptions to the rule). Both are only, still 12'' wide, without the volume of water found in a 55g (stating the obvious I am ;) ).

IMVHO, if you are not going to/not going to be able to provide a thriving enviroment for an animal, and you know that before you purchase it, then you should not have it. A 35-40 would be able to house the perfect enviroment for other species of fish.

cyberbeer65
07-17-2005, 6:24 PM
recently,I had to jail my Midas,the bastage lost his/her mind!!!

razorxxx
07-19-2005, 11:49 AM
what oscars better zebra or tiger :confused:

PumaWard
07-19-2005, 12:51 PM
I've never heard of a "zebra" oscar. I would suspect it's the same thing as a tiger oscar...

Ascalon
07-19-2005, 3:53 PM
howdy ascalon
to give you some idea as to how new i am to this game, ihave a couple of questions for you
what is fishless cycle
what are water paramiters and what do i need to check these topics.
i have a 4 foot tank, in the tank there is 1 heater
2 filters 1 is a rio-1400lph the other is a aqua 1 (103)
various rocks and aunaments and through the middle of the tank is a 18" air stone aswell as 5 artifical plants.
i would like to be able to add a photo of my tank but as yet i have'nt worked out how to do it
thanking you for your help
symryk

sorry, Havnt been online lately.
Fishless cycling is the best way to cycle a tank in my opinion.
Its a little complicated at first so i appologize for the novel.

One thing that you really need to understand first it the nitrification cycle.
When a fish excretes waste, they create ammonia, which will become toxic at higher levels. The next stage involves a nitrifying bacteria called Nitrosomonas. These bacteria consume the ammonia as food and excrete their own waste product called Nitrites. This product is very toxic to fish. The next stage involves yet another bacteria that consumes the Nitrites. These bacteria are called Nitrobacter. These Nitrobacter convert the toxic Nitrites into a far less harmful product called Nitrates.
Nitrites (with an “I”) = the harmful toxic waste product
Nitrates (with an “A”) = the less harmful product of the Nitrobacter

This is the cycle that an aquarium will need to go through to become a suitable environment for any living thing.
Many people unknowingly will add fish to their aquarium immediately after setting their tank up and will inevitably end up with a big problem. Their ammonia will go sky high and will take a nasty toll on their fish, causing ammonia burns to their gills that will never fully heal. Then their Nitrites will end up going sky high causing their fish to become ill and many times to die. This can be avoided with very frequent water changes to keep the levels from getting to high for the fish to bear. However this makes the cycle take a lot longer.

NOW, to the fishless cycle.
FIRST: You need to get a test kit. I use Aquarium Pharmaceuticals. You will need a NitrIte test kit, NitrAte test kit, Ammonia test kit and you should have a PH test kit just because its good to have. (you wont be looking at ph for cycling)
This is what you do.
Get your hands on some common household ammonia. Make sure there are no additives or soaps added. Just look at the ingredients. If there are no ingredients and the liquid doesn’t get foamy like soap when you shake the bottle, then it should be pure ammonia.

You will need to add about 3-4 drops of ammonia per 10 gallons of water.
Do this once daily until your ammonia reading pretty much reads off the chart. Make sure to place the same amount of ammonia in each day.
Keep on adding the same ammonia and wait for a Nitrite spike. You will need to test the water at least every other day to keep track.
You are looking for your Nitrite to spike to about 3-5 ppm (parts per million). This should be near the end of the chart.
Once you get a Nitrite spike, you need to cut your ammonia additions in half. So keep adding ammonia every day, but half of the initial dosage.
This next part could take a while, up to a month or possibly more. Its different for everybody.
You need to wait until your Ammonia and your Nitrite readings drop all the way to Zero. Not almost to zero. They have to be at Zero.
Once this happens, check your NitrAtes. These should read anywhere from 20-80 ppm. Most likely it will be around 80 ppm.
So you have a reading of Ammonia – 0, Nitrite – 0, Nitrate – 80.
Nitrates should ideally be around 20 ppm for a healthy fish.


SORRY BOUT THE NOVEL :laugh:

symryk
07-20-2005, 7:58 AM
hello Ascalon
now i'm the one that should be apologising,i've been trying to send you emails all night but to no avail . the email keeps on returning saying unknown
user, i hope i have your email address right ,
E-mail Address(es):
Neosolares@aol.com that is the address i was trying to send it to . but it would'nt go

Ascalon
07-21-2005, 10:11 PM
I emailed you. Its actually yahoo.com. I dont remember if i told you right or not.

If i said aol.com SORRRRRYYYYYY oooops :duh:

RocknRollMoCo
07-22-2005, 5:58 PM
My favorite is the Veil Tail. They are not as aggressive, easy to take care of and they still will come up and kiss the tank when you walk by.

fishdrifta
07-23-2005, 9:46 PM
Id say 55 should be minimum cause I use to have a red oscar in my 55 before with a 10 inch pleco and they both did just fine.My oscar gre 11 inches which is about big adult size.