New - Electric Blue dempseys

[crenicichla]

just picked these up today, beautiful little guys, about 1" each

http://arofanatics.com/members/leopoldi2/electricbluedempseys/image01.jpg
http://arofanatics.com/members/leopoldi2/electricbluedempseys/image02.jpg

sorry for the poor quality pics! Getting a new camera for xmas. :D

[crenicichla]

woops someone please move this to the cichlid forum. sorry. :p

[NJ Devils Fan]

How much were they?

[TheMightyQueenPixie]

They are so beautiful...I've never had any luck with dempsey unfortunately...Maybe i'll try them again some day :)

[vfrex]

It seems like the bigger the blues get the better they look. Good luck growing them out cren.

[Mattimeo]

nice drew!!! Let's hope you can pull it off and get them past 5 inches:D

[crenicichla]

haha your right scott, i got them in a nice 10 gallon going to let them grow out, but the nicest one is staying in the 10 and the other 2 are going to cycle my 180, no wait......genius idea ALBINO TINFOIL BARBS!! THATS IT!!! lol

[crenicichla]

Originally posted by NJ Devils Fan
How much were they?

17.50 each.

[damion]

How's the Dempseys doing? Do they max out and have the same temperment as the regular ones?

[NJ Devils Fan]

HOLY CRAP!!!!!!! This is the topic I was looking for last month. I posted a thread asking someone if they could find this. I wasn't sure what kind of fish they were. I thought they were electric blue rams. I had no idea they were oscars.

[CyberDrgn]

I wouldn't keep them in a 10 gallon and I wouldn't cycle a tank with them. They are fragile fish that often die for no apparent reason, I've tried them twice and gave up.

[Forum221]

I am thinking in getting some Jack Dempseys for my new 75 gallon. From what I have read, the blue ones max out at about 4 inches I think, and they do like pretty specific water perimiters and I wouldn't reccoment putting them into 10 gallon or even cycling with them. If you were going to use fish to cycle, you should cycle at first with out the fish, then do a large water change and add a few feeder fish. As long as your ammonia isn't really high, the feeders should be fine (i think). Im sure someone else who knows more than I do will respond to this also.


P.S.
I am hoping to breed JD's in my new 75 gallon and I know that to get the Blue Dempseys, you need to mate a Blue one with a normal one. Has anyone tryed this? If so, could you give me some details.

[wetmanNY]

I hear it's a recessive gene. They have to be mated back to normal Nandopsis octofasciatus "Jack Dempseys" each generation, and only a percentage of the fry turn out to have this coloration. "Blue Dempseys" mated together spawn, but the eggs fail to hatch. (There's a cool photo and some info at Age of Aquariums: www.aquahobby.com/dempsey.html

Has anyone personally seen a spawning that hatched?

I sure would like to read some solid material on these. I know that Jeff Rapps of TangledUpInCichlids in New Jersey is the sole distributor from the original breeder. And that the originator is a dark secret-- I heard that they were "native to Paraguay" a while back. Yah! and the pirated "Lord of the Rings" DVD too... smoke-blowing!

[wetmanNY]

Well, a little more work with beloved www.google.com opens up a whole new world. The originator is fishbreeder Hector Luzardo of Buenos Aires-- and check out this photo of Blue Dempsey juveniles!
http://luzardo.elacuarista.com/ You can read the Tropical Fish Hobbyist article in 2000 that set the Pacific Blue's on the map (it's in English) at http://www.elacuarista.com/secciones/tfhblue.htm That website has more detailed history of the "Pacific Blue" as the originator likes to call them, since the first fry turned up in his tanks in 1985.

So Paraguay wasn't all that far off, eh?

[TTman]

are those blue dempseys not very hardy? they don't drop like flies do they? I saw some adult 1s at a LPS and they were incredible.