View Full Version : Honey Red Dwarf Gouramis?
Anyone out there ever heard of them, or kept them? I just acquired two and they are beautiful, and a lot of fun to watch.
I think the proper name is Colisia Lalia. Any feed back on habits and water parameters would be appreciated.
Len
OrionGirl
02-13-2003, 10:29 PM
I am pretty sure all the dwarf gouramies are just different color morphs--I know that the difference between the gold, blues, etc in the larger cousins.
If I recall, the honey's are a peach color with red fringed fins? Really pretty. Mine have never gotten very big--think 3 cm is about average. Fairly friendly, not bullies like my neons were.
wetmanNY
02-13-2003, 10:37 PM
This is a hybrid between Colisa lalia and C. chuna, which is sometimes called C. sota.
Bob McDonnell's article on breeding C. chuna is at www.e-aquaria.com/honey.html
Published photos of the species and the hybrids are so shuffled and mislabeled they add to the confusion.
OrionGirl
02-13-2003, 10:49 PM
Very interesting...Would this be why my kids are so much smaller than the listed size? Any thoughts to fertility? My trio goes through the courtship dances, but I've never seen any signs of anything more. That website doesn't come up... This is the closest I could come up with for info... http://www.animalatlas.com/encyclo/fresh/anabantoids/flamegour.htm
carpguy
02-13-2003, 10:55 PM
Wander off to make a cup of tea, and that WetFeller shows up with the heavy documentation. I'd always been a little confused about whether or not these were hybrids or just color morphs…
Hey, there's no document! Fishbase sends searches for colisa sota to colisa chuna, regular Honey Gouramis.
wetmanNY
02-13-2003, 11:49 PM
Hmm... apparently Bob McDonnell's account of spawning this baby has passed over the Event Horizon, approaching the speed of light as it spirals into the Black Hole that lies at the center of the Internet Galaxy.
wetmanNY
02-14-2003, 12:00 AM
Colisa sota was an error: apparently someone described a female of Hamilton-Buchanan 's 1822 C. chuna as a new species.
There's a little light documentation at www.skepticalaquarist.com in the Labyrinth fishes pages
beviking
02-14-2003, 12:39 PM
I had a pair of "Blue Face" Gouramis which were Honey Gouramis (I believe) with a blue spot near the tail. I know, it's a$$ backwards. Probably some hybrid. Anyway, they were very docile and very often grazing among the plants (leaf surface, not actually eating them) and rocks (again, the surface, not actually eating them!). They were very entertaining b/c they would do "headstands" and many times seem like they were going to flip!
Again tea comes up...carpguy. Can we just make tea the "Official Beverage of AC" already?
carpguy
02-14-2003, 11:01 PM
Did tea come up again? Maybe it was the mention of honey…
Pavlov must have his bell out again. :D
I've been hunting down the Honey Gourami (t. chuna -- its apparently been moved from colisa to trichogaster), and I've seen a bunch of gouramis that wind up getting associated with it. I think some are color morphs and others are hybrids. Haven't come across one with a blue spot. Very confusing area.