Earthworms living on plant roots?

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I have had a 150 planted running for about 10 months now. It houses a Blackbelt Cichlid (11") and a 8" Pleco, and it has just been too difficult to keep things looking tidy in this tank with such a territorial (he thinks he's an interior decorator! ) cichlid, so I wanted to remove pretty much all the plants.

While I was pulling up the Vals and Swords, I noticed several red (bloodworm colored) miniature "earthworm-looking" babies, some of which are up to 4" or so wrapped up tightly in the rootball. They are living and doing fine, and I've discovered at least 30 or so in all my roots.

I assume they are earthworms because I have found earthworms while gardening and have brought them in a few occasions to feed to my cichlid, which he appreciates very much, but somehow one must have escaped. Another possibility is that a segment of one regenerated (which they do) and found safety and was able to multiply.

They questions I have are:
1) Are they a problem to have growing in the substrate and in general in the aquarium? I can't see why, but maybe they can be.

2) Are they possibly eating my plant roots or just enjoying living next to the most oxygen rich part of the substrate?

3) Is it possible for them to overpopulate an aquarium? Especially since I'm wanting to move these plants to a smaller tank with smaller, less aggressive fish which probably won't be able to eat even a smaller earthworm. I cannot detach them without destroying the rootball almost entirely. If it could be a problem, I may just toss these plants.

4) Could they actually be a highly productive and helpful addition to aquariums? I use roughly a 50/50 mix of playsand and Flourite, and the worms seem to move quite readily through this substrate. They could even help to loosen the soil and aid in oxygenation. Not to mention that they would probably be excellent at breaking down uneaten food and such into more processed "castings" for bacteria and plants to use. Is this simply a more bio-diverse tank now, and as such, more stable?

I think I'm going to add this to the Cichlid forum as well, since more often people add earthworms to tanks with larger cichlids, so they might have some decent input!

Thanks for your time and input!
 
i'm not sure what they are exactly, but i can say that they aren't earthworms. just go walking after a heavy rain and you can see them all over the place, that's because they have to come up out of the ground or they will drown. they don't have organs that allow them to live underwater.
 
i'm not sure what they are exactly, but i can say that they aren't earthworms. just go walking after a heavy rain and you can see them all over the place, that's because they have to come up out of the ground or they will drown. they don't have organs that allow them to live underwater.

Actually earthworms live underwater just fine. the longest test I've done was two weeks, but if you put an earthworm in a 5 gallon bucket of water it will still be swimming days later. I do not know exactly how they do it, but do know they live underwater at least for a couple of weeks.
The reason They come out on top of the ground in the rain is simple. they govern their travels by moisture, when rains are heavy and extended the eathwors can come out without drying out, and will crawl anywhere that is wet. At night when the grass is dew-saoked they will do the same thing.


Back to the original question, I don't know if they are earthworms, but it sounds like a compelling case. it would be interesting to have a culture of natural live food in your substrate.
Dave
 
correction noted. thanks.
 
Think there's any need for concern adding those plants (with small worms) to my 55 gallon planted with 6 Florida Flag Fish and 4 Dwarf Puffers?
 
Well, since I have over 180 gallons of wormy substrates….

1) No. Aquatic Oligochaetes will behave much like terrestrial ones

2) The latter. The rhizosphere around the roots is rich in microbes. Naidids and tubificids in particular feed on bacteria

3 ) I have not seen this and I have very organic substrates (soil and leaf litter)

4) IMO they are. They turn over the substrate much like terrestrial worms. Over the years they’ve had no problem penetrating down to 5 inches of substrate and bringing it to the surface. The downside is the debris piles they create, some 3 inches high.

One other downside. Tanks with worms in them aren’t ‘cool’ in the living or the dining room. :)


Tom
 
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