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ddayton21
12-15-2005, 7:30 PM
Hey everyone
I'm adding plants to my 20 gallon and I would love to see some pics of planted tanks so I can get some ideas.
thanks a bunch!
Robert H
12-15-2005, 8:31 PM
http://www.aquabotanic.com/contest/2003/resized/24/fulltankshot.jpg
http://www.aquabotanic.com/contest2004/tank_58/resized/OliverKnott2004-01.jpg
http://www.aquabotanic.com/contest2004/tank_57/resized/fot1.jpg
Want more? There is three Galleries full of nothing but planted tanks here
Gallery (http://www.aquabotanic.com/gallery.htm)
ddayton21
12-15-2005, 8:42 PM
wow thats alot of tanks! thanks alot robert!
pwrflpills
12-15-2005, 11:39 PM
ddayton21, I'm in the same exact boat. I've got a 20gal and I'm growing tired of my old fake plants that seem uncleanable and are increasingly lame the longer I am into this hobby.
Robert, those are some gorgeous tanks. Hope to acheive something approaching those some day.
I'll be visiting this thread a lot! :thm:
To get some ideas from others in addition to the link above
AGA International Aquascape Contest (http://showcase.aquatic-gardeners.org/2005.cgi) Goes back to 2000 and seperates into tank sizes. Then the judges give their comments which can be interesting at times.
Aries
EcoPit
12-16-2005, 12:07 PM
Oh, my. Thanks for that link Aries. I had tried looking for that before, but had not found it. I just can't believe some of those tanks. They make mine look so bad I want to give up the hobby.
ddayton21
12-16-2005, 12:31 PM
Oh, my. Thanks for that link Aries. I had tried looking for that before, but had not found it. I just can't believe some of those tanks. They make mine look so bad I want to give up the hobby.
ditto
thanks for the link aries.
pwrflpills
12-19-2005, 11:03 PM
Want more?
Well, what are most of those plants??? Those tanks are gorgeous and don't seem too complicated.
Captain Hook
12-19-2005, 11:46 PM
A perspetive rarely seen in tank pictures, from the top down:
http://pna.pricenetwork.ca/gallery/albums/userpics/13267/above.JPG
http://pna.pricenetwork.ca/gallery/albums/userpics/13267/IMGP1233.JPG
http://pna.pricenetwork.ca/gallery/albums/userpics/13267/normal_IMG_6518.JPG
My 25 gallon taken at various times. The last picture is the oldest, the middle most recent. It's a 24x12 footrprint that's 22" tall.
Captain Hook
12-19-2005, 11:49 PM
Here's my 72 gallon.
http://pna.pricenetwork.ca/gallery/albums/userpics/13267/apr20tankpic05.jpg
http://pna.pricenetwork.ca/gallery/albums/userpics/13267/rightside.jpg
http://pna.pricenetwork.ca/gallery/albums/userpics/13267/IMGP1167.JPG
The last pic shows the tank as it is now. Waiting for some rocks and a small foreground plant to be added soon.
edit: the tenellus has died from my poor planning (no CO2, low light levels).
LOL. To get your tank like the first three photos won't be easy and frankly, you won't achieve that if this is your first attempt at keeping real plants.
Heck, I've been trying to make something half decent for more than a year now, and it's still nowhere even comparable to the beauties shown in the aquascaping contest. Although it's quite a difference now that during the first months...
It's strange though, that so many Americans use plastic plants. Don't you have problems with the waterquality? (oxygen, nitrate, phosphate, ...?)
No problem people! I figure a contest would be the best way to view a whole bunch of peoples tanks. I use this to get a lot of ideas.
A perspetive rarely seen in tank pictures, from the top down: I really like top pictures, wish many more people did that as to get more ideal placements.
LOL. To get your tank like the first three photos won't be easy and frankly, you won't achieve that if this is your first attempt at keeping real plants. I agree but should not hinder your attempts but should give you a goal. Those are some heavily maintained tanks that are quite mature. I have a good 'scape but is very immature - it really needs to fill in. I look forward to having something like those first three pics!!!
Aries
I agree but should not hinder your attempts but should give you a goal. Those are some heavily maintained tanks that are quite mature. I have a good 'scape but is very immature - it really needs to fill in. I look forward to having something like those first three pics!!!
Aries
That's true. However, a lot of people get discouraged if their tank doesn't look like that after 4 weeks. Or if certain plants don't do well in their aquarium. And then they tend to give up...
I can only say, give live plants a chance and do your best! It's the best thing you can do for your fish.
pwrflpills
12-22-2005, 2:42 PM
It's strange though, that so many Americans use plastic plants. Don't you have problems with the waterquality? (oxygen, nitrate, phosphate, ...?)
Americans, if you'd be so gracious as to excuse me being that I am one, use fake plants because they are all over the pet shops, require no maintenance, and are so readily available because they generally get the pet shop about twice the money per item. Also, 90% of aquarium keepers in the US probably neither know nor are they told any better by any shop "professionals". Add to that the type of people who like white, pink, purple, black or blue colored plants in their tanks. :( :huh:
But hey, thanks for joining the world and generalizing Americans. :thm: Not.
I see no problem with using fake plants in an aquarium. I have seen some very nicely done tanks with fake plants..in fact, the 10 gallon tank I have that is all fake is probably the easiest one to maintain. No algae issues.....although, there is a very nice crop of mossy like algae growing on the top of the "FAKE" rock type decoration. It looks very nice so I leave it there. This tank has 3 male guppies, one glo-light tetra and 2 little cory cats.
I also have a black and white themed tank that is all fake....and I rather like it quite a bit as it's unusual and quite catches the eye....
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y82/morroman/emgfishpics/th_DCP_7452.jpg (http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y82/morroman/emgfishpics/DCP_7452.jpg)
I have no issues with water quality in these tanks.....they have sufficient filtration and are not overstocked or overfed. The B&W tank is a 15 gallon and houses 3 male HB pastel guppies, 2 panda cories and one german blue ram.
I also keep several planted tanks as well.....I do throroughly enjoy a nicely done planted tank as much as anyone else....but I won't look down my nose at someone who chooses the easier route of fake over live.....
Roan Art
12-22-2005, 6:13 PM
Guys, Parin isn't being derogatory towards Americans. Seriously.
It's an honest question because in Europe they don't use plastic. They're really big into natural tanks and have been for quite a while. So when they see all the plastic over here they wonder why we use it.
Heck, I'm Canadian and I know Canucks mostly use plastic, too.
Thing is, Parin, plastic is cheaper and easier in the long run. No ferts, no algae, no worrying about killing the plants with medications or salt or whatever. Most of us grew up with plastic. I never even thought about putting real plants in my tank until I saw some of the Euro tanks.
Now I can't imaging having plastic at all. I have a bit in my hospital tank to give shy fish some coverage, but that's it. The advantages, for me, far outweigh the costs and care of the plants.
In Europe they rely on the plants to control their phophates and nitrates et al, which is why Parin asked about that.
There are pros and cons to both, imho.
Roan
Captain Hook
12-22-2005, 6:22 PM
I agree Roan, there are pros and cons for both. That being said, this is the aquatic plants forum so I don't see much point in discussing fake/plastic plants.
Mooch28
12-22-2005, 10:39 PM
Guys, Parin isn't being derogatory towards Americans. Seriously.
It's an honest question because in Europe they don't use plastic. They're really big into natural tanks and have been for quite a while. So when they see all the plastic over here they wonder why we use it.
Heck, I'm Canadian and I know Canucks mostly use plastic, too.
Thing is, Parin, plastic is cheaper and easier in the long run. No ferts, no algae, no worrying about killing the plants with medications or salt or whatever. Most of us grew up with plastic. I never even thought about putting real plants in my tank until I saw some of the Euro tanks.
Now I can't imaging having plastic at all. I have a bit in my hospital tank to give shy fish some coverage, but that's it. The advantages, for me, far outweigh the costs and care of the plants.
In Europe they rely on the plants to control their phophates and nitrates et al, which is why Parin asked about that.
There are pros and cons to both, imho.
Roan
I started off rather strangely. My first tank was a 72 gallon Bow with a few live plants. Within a few months, becamse much mroe interested in planted tanks, and created this within 6 months....... (my first tank ever!!)
http://techtastic.pricenetwork.ca/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=240737
Unfortanately, ive become tired of it, and am in the process of tearing it down. Am selling off plants and fish.
This tank is now becoming a reef (sps) tank. Ive gone a little salty i guess. :joke:
My tanks are not plant tanks, they are planted fish tanks. That dichotomy is very real to me, as I have lots of tanks, each and every one for the fish that live there, none for the aquascape. BUT, the appearance of the tank is important to me in order to show my fish, and to be healthier for them. I am unwilling to spend much time in grooming and pruning - no stem plants, lots of rooted rosettes/rhizomes/bulbs/tubers. Plants that do well for me with little effort I use a lot of and repeat in multiple tanks. Collectoritis and Dutch style plantings curl my toes. All highly personal choices and opinions. Folk who want to be collectors and to ceate a still life suitable for a frame on the wall, fine, their perogative, again personal choice. I do not do garden borders outdoors either. Everybody gets to make their own choices.
There is a link in my signature tank list to some pics of a few of my tanks if you want to see some very low upkeep heavily planted tanks.
BTW, the Marimo balls in the 55, as well as the A. nana petite in the left foreground of that same tank are from Aquabotanic, Robert Hudson's site. You can see it in a clickable version with more detail as the featured current tank on the main page of the GWAPA site at: http://www.gwapa.org/
pwrflpills
12-23-2005, 12:28 AM
Emg, that black and white tank is wild. Very cool.
But back to the thread - the pictures are awesome, but I still don't know what any of those plants are. So, being a plant newbie, what are some of the best plants to start with?
My LFS recommended swords, wisteria, moneywort, and I can't remember any more.
I guess what I'm looking for is "lush" vegetation. However, I do like swords, but I think I want to add "grassy" plants, so what can anyone recommend? :confused:
Roan Art
12-23-2005, 5:31 AM
. . .
BTW, the Marimo balls in the 55, as well as the A. nana petite in the left foreground of that same tank are from Aquabotanic, Robert Hudson's site. You can see it in a clickable version with more detail as the featured current tank on the main page of the GWAPA site at: http://www.gwapa.org/
Well said! I like the distinction you made between a planted tank and a planted fish tank.
Also, I did end up placing an order with Robert H's Aquabotanic (http://www.Aquabotanic.com) site. I went over everything with a fine tooth comb but I couldn't find a search engine on his site :(
It wasn't until I did a Yahoo! search that I found a bunch of posts he made a while back that I realized he was carrying a VERY rare (in North America) vallisneria from Australia/Papua New Guinea/Malaylasia that is found in my targeted biotope area.
I almost screamed when I saw it. It's the only val I've been able to find that's on the list I have. Oh, doh, it's Vallisneria caulescens, gorgeous! I ordered three of them to start :)
Looks like I'm going to have to hang around Robert's forums and see if he's going to manage to get the six new (and horribly rare) Australian aponogetons.
Roan
LOL! I have a bit of an issue among many plant tank folk, as their emphasis is 180 degrees away from mine. Too many plant folks are prejudiced about their aquascapes and compositions of 50+ varieties of plant material in a moderate size tank. It may be a beautiful as a composition, but it 'sho ain't nature' -not that keeping plants in glass boxes ever really is. I appreciate the effort and design sense folk invest in those, but it is not me at all. I keep fish. Plants are a support function.
I much prefer sweeps of many of the same plant type (much reduced from what you see in the wild, but closer), and if I get more than 4-6 different plant types in a tank I start getting concerned about it. Two or three plant types would be more natural, one or two probably better yet, but it gets difficult to make that look like much. I confess that Amano's old "plains" and "mountaintop" tank setups would be my ideals, and if I ever pull the big tanks back into use planted, I just might try for such.
RPH (Aquabotanic) and I have agreed to disagree about many things over the years, but he is an honest man and a valuable plant source IMHO & IME. I would never hesitate to suggest him as a source of quality plant materials.
EcoPit
12-23-2005, 11:35 AM
My tanks are not plant tanks, they are planted fish tanks. That dichotomy is very real to me, as I have lots of tanks, each and every one for the fish that live there, none for the aquascape. BUT, the appearance of the tank is important to me in order to show my fish, and to be healthier for them.[/url]
I love that distinction RTR--that is exactly how I feel. I love gardening, indoors and out, but the one thing I love more is fish. They are why I keep aquariums. The tanks in that contest look amazing, but I will never have one. (Both because I am not good enough at keeping aquatic plants and because I like lots of fish.) I am trying my hand at planted tanks because I think they look better than plastic and are probably healthier for the fish, but so far they are a lot of upkeep.
It does get easier, at least for me. With time I have selected for the things which do well for me, and do not mourn those which do not. I keep trying new things, so it is not same-old at all times, but convenience is big thing for me with so many tanks.
However, I do like swords, but I think I want to add "grassy" plants, so what can anyone recommend? :confused:
If you want grassy plants, try java moss, its easy to grow because you can just put it on the gravel and it grows, although some might come loose and get stuck on the filter intake, which is a problem I have because my cabomba gets stuck on the filter. Even though they look the "grassiest" out of the plant I've seen I dont recommend getting microswords if you have gravel, because mine are growing very slowly and are constantly floating out of the gravel which gets very annoying when every morning I find them attached to the tops of other plants or the filter intake. The only way to get them to stay is to use sand but I dont feel like changing my substrate.
Wisteria is very easy to grow. I bought a small bunch and after 3-4 months, I had to do some major pruning.
To add some contrast, you could get a couple of bunches of ludwigia, which has reddish green leaves.
Try java fern, it looks great, grows well and is one of the easiest plants to care for. It also readily produces spores.
Can anyone tell me how to post pictures?
pwrflpills
12-24-2005, 1:58 PM
Thanks, ljse. I think I've seen java fern, and I like the lushness of the pictures I've seen. Easy = big plus. :D
BTW, I couldn't help but notice your 20 gal tank stats. That's a lot of fish!!! Does the 20L gal mean you have one of those longer tanks, which means with a bigger "footprint" you can get more fish? Does having plants help manage your fish bio-load and allow you to have more fish? This is all new to me.
Yea I have a 20 gal long. So far I have not had any problems with diseases because of overcrowding, I think the plants help a lot because the water stays clean pretty long, and the fish stay around the bottom so there doesnt seem to be any lack of oxygen. It also helps that all of the fish I have are no longer than 2".
I think its a good idea to add live plants because they look amazing after they get settled and you dont have to change the water as often.
ddayton21
12-24-2005, 11:45 PM
ljse, same here with the 20 gal. long. I haven't had any problems with my fish being crowded. Granted, I just got the serpaes yesterday but they seem happy and active. I'm not sure about adding any more but I would like to think I have a little extra room incase something catches my eye.
I'm just starting with the whole plant deal and right now I have java ferns and anacharis. Neither look terribly healthy but thats how they came from the store and have been in the tank less than a week. I'm still kinda nervous to see how they turn out but they aren't dead yet so thats promising!
Dont worry about the fern, I got a really sickly looking one from petco, the kind they have in plastic tubes in some kind of jelly, it was the first plant I got. Now its doing great.
Robert H
12-25-2005, 5:16 AM
RTR and I used to have "discussions" years ago when I thought I had an opinion on everything! I have since learned to focus my attention a little more! :huh: Robert, when did you move to Washington DC?
Those aponogetons from Australia you want are not in the hobby, grown commercially by anyone, anywhere in the world to my knowledge.So don't get your hopes up! You may have to convince someone in Australia to dig some up for you! V. caulescens is cultivated in Indonesia plant farms. Why I have no idea, but that is how I get it.
RobertH - I am not in DC proper, but in the exurbs of the Metro area, in the Catoctin mountains, just west of Frederick MD. The Army set me to DC (Walter Reed) as a draftee back during the Vietnam war and I have have never left.
ddayton21
12-25-2005, 5:45 PM
ljse- haha thats exactly what I have. How long did it take for them to bounce back? I thought about using flourish, but I heard it will kill the anacharis; true? And if I have plenty of fish waste will that be good enough fertilizer?
Roan Art
12-25-2005, 8:30 PM
ljse- haha thats exactly what I have. How long did it take for them to bounce back? I thought about using flourish, but I heard it will kill the anacharis; true? And if I have plenty of fish waste will that be good enough fertilizer?
Don't tell my anacharis that! I can't stop them from growing out of the top of my tank. I use Flourish and Excel with my CO2.
Roan
Roan Art
12-25-2005, 8:53 PM
. . .Those aponogetons from Australia you want are not in the hobby, grown commercially by anyone, anywhere in the world to my knowledge.So don't get your hopes up!Awww, man! Now I bet you're going to tell me there's no Santa Claus too, right?
Yah, I know, and a couple of them have disappeared from their native habitat too :(
You may have to convince someone in Australia to dig some up for you! V. caulescens is cultivated in Indonesia plant farms. Why I have no idea, but that is how I get it.Can you get your hands on any others? I can get you a list of what AquariumPlants.com *says* they have as "New Arrivals", but have no stock on. Probably have the same source you do, down the line.
Heck, I'll buy them from you if you can get them. :bowing:
I'm going to need more caulescens for my other tanks, too, so you'll see more orders from me :)
Hoping I get them soon. I have the first 75g up and running with the Boesemanis in it and vacant places for the caulescens. Now I gotta get some more Boes and some Goo-obos.
Then on to tank #2, then 3 finally (for this year), #4 :)
Roan
It took about a month for them to grow normally. I never used any fertilizers or CO2, so I guess fish waste is enough to sustain most plants, although the cabomba is a bit wispy.
Don't tell my anacharis that! I can't stop them from growing out of the top of my tank. I use Flourish and Excel with my CO2. As the sole source of CO2, Excel WILL kill anacharis and harm most vals. However, since Excel is supplementary (sp), it will not harm Anacharis.
I have seen it melt vals and anacharis. But when added along with CO2 gas in anyform (DIY or pressurized), they will do fine.
reiverix
12-27-2005, 8:49 AM
Excel WILL kill anacharis and harm most valsThere's got to be some other factor with the vals and Excel. I've been dosing Excel on two tanks, non CO2, medium light, plenty vals (italian and contortion) and yet they grow and spread.
Roan Art
12-27-2005, 9:13 AM
What John said.
I was using Excel on my tanks before I started the CO2 injection and the anacharis was fine.
In fact, I use it in my betta tank and it's full of healthy anacharis. Stems are thicker than in my CO2 injected bowfront.
Roan
From the horse's mouth:
http://www.seachem.com/support/FAQs/FlourishExcel_faq.html
FWIW: Since I went to Excel use rountinely in my circulating range/central system, I had to discontinue the use of Anacharis as a veggie filter, as the growth arrested up to the plants dying. Val has not been affected.
pwrflpills
12-28-2005, 11:24 AM
is there some special type of filter you should have when you get plants?
you guys are mentioning all these products and I'm starting to think plants maybe aren't for me. I have a day job.
is plant keeping really a matter of having 3 different plant specific products, injecting CO2 (how the heck do you do that???) and is there any special cleaning that is required? :thud:
Captain Hook
12-28-2005, 12:57 PM
pwrflpills - don't worry, plants really aren't that complicated. It's all about providing light and nutrients. CO2 injection isn't necessary in low light tanks, but it will still help.
I have a low maintenace tank with mostly crypts, anubias, and java fern. It takes almost no extra work to keep it going. I add some fertilizer sticks in the gravel every few months, once or twice a month add some liquid fertilizers, that's about it.
edit: you also don't need any special filters. If you're injecting CO2 it's a good idea to keep surface disturbance to a minimum. Canister filters are good for this.
phanmc
12-28-2005, 1:04 PM
How much work involved in keeping a planted tank depends on the type of plants you want. You can have a low light, low maintenance tank which only requires you to do weekly water changes or you can have a colorful high light tank that will require CO2, fertilizing, and alot more trimming.
A low light tank consisting of java moss&fern, anubias, crypts, anacharis, and hornwort requires practically no extra maintenance. The standard hood lights should be enough to keep these plants alive. CO2 isn't necessary at this light level and the weekly water changes should provide the plants with their nutrients.
ddayton21
12-28-2005, 1:43 PM
ljse, good to know about the java ferns; mine don't look any better than when I got them but it's only been about 2 weeks. My anacharis are doing great and i've only had them about a week and a half.
speaking of anacharis, I trimmed mine this morning and planted the trimmings in the gravel; they will take root like this won't they?
Roan Art
12-28-2005, 2:20 PM
From the horse's mouth:
http://www.seachem.com/support/FAQs/FlourishExcel_faq.html
FWIW: Since I went to Excel use rountinely in my circulating range/central system, I had to discontinue the use of Anacharis as a veggie filter, as the growth arrested up to the plants dying. Val has not been affected.
Ah, that explains it! Thanks RTR. I only use Excel 3 times a week in my tanks, which will account for my anacharis not dying on me.
Roan
Roan Art
12-28-2005, 2:22 PM
ljse, good to know about the java ferns; mine don't look any better than when I got them but it's only been about 2 weeks. My anacharis are doing great and i've only had them about a week and a half.
speaking of anacharis, I trimmed mine this morning and planted the trimmings in the gravel; they will take root like this won't they?
Yes, but the ends of the ones you cut the tops off of will branch. You can either leave them and then cut the branches off and plant them -- thereby having two plants for the price of one -- or remove them and replace them with the tops you cut off.
Roan
ddayton21
12-28-2005, 5:28 PM
haha just like a hydra, cut off one and two grow in its place.
edit: almost forgot, thanks for the info roan!
Roan Art
12-28-2005, 5:39 PM
haha just like a hydra, cut off one and two grow in its place.Heh, my husband says I'm like a hydra in the morning :eek:
edit: almost forgot, thanks for the info roan!You're welcome, of course!
Roan
pwrflpills
12-30-2005, 8:44 PM
Well I went to the LFS after work today and unfortunately they were basically cleaned out by X-mas sales, but I was able to grab a nice little Cryptocoryne Wendtii De Witt and a Saggitaria Dwarf. They're pretty cool and I'll see how they work. Both were decribed as low maintenance.
Questions:
1. I put the Saggitaria Dwarf as a foreground plant b/c it is grassy and small (rising about 2" tall, then outward). Will it remain this way or is this a juvenile specimen that should be moved to the middle/back of the tank? I know it will produce runners and multiply that way, so that's why I though it would be a nice low lying forground plant.
2. Same question for the Cryptocoryne Wendtii De Witt. I put it in the middle. I've read they can go over 1.5 feet tall. Any recommendations for placement?
reiverix
12-30-2005, 9:35 PM
In my moderate lighted tanks the sag stays quite small, no longer that 4 inches, and spreads slowly. Now in my high light CO2 injected tank it's like a different plant. Spreads like wildfire and some of the older plants have leaves 10 inches or so.
I've no experience with the species of crypt you mention so someone else will have to chime in.
pwrflpills
01-05-2006, 11:42 PM
Yeah, I'm considering a brighter bulb. however, I learned tonight that it's mondo grass that I got, not sag. I also just read that mondo grass is not a true aquatic plant and does not do well constantly submerged. Guess I'll plant it in the yard! It has predictably not been doing well with my moderate light bulb. The red wentii seems fine though.
How is it that stores have these plants in tanks and look great, but they are not intended to be there?
will red wentii not do well in bright light if I go towards "bright light" plants?
Here's a pic of a 29 tank I recently switched substrate in.......
I've posted this tank in so many other threads here, folks just may be getting tired of it by now...lol....sorry, but I am just so thrilled with how it's turned out....if I can have a tank like this.....ANYONE can...and maybe it will help encourage anyone else who would like to give something like this a try.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y82/morroman/emgfishpics/DSC00069800.jpg
general information
29gallons
65Watts compact flourescent lighting fixture
penguin 170 bio-wheel
echo-complete substrate for planted tanks
daily dose of flourish "Excel"
100 micron poly fiber pad in filter
stock
1-pair german blue rams
2-half dollar sized angels
5-prestella tetra
2-otocinclus
plants
java fern
water sprite
wysteria
aponogetons
small amazon swords
red lilies
some type of ludwigia (I think)
a few cryptocyrene
I'm waiting for the plants to fill out after I did a major trim on them after an ongoing algae issue. They seem to be doing VERY well since the switch from regular gravel mixed with flourite..to the echo. Not a glimps of anymore algae so far, but it's only been a week since the change. The plants and fish are looking FANTASTIC !! The change has obviously been a hit with all involved...lol..
pwrflpills
01-09-2006, 8:36 AM
EMG, I went straight out and bought that substrate you have. I LOVE it. Now I'm just planning on how to change what I have out with this stuff. I think I may leave some in with the black stuff.
Also, after further research I think the first wentii that bought is a Bronze Wentii. I think this b/c I just bought a Red Wentii and they are totally different and the first one didn't have a label. I also picked up an Anubias Nana. Should look nice.
jazzbass
01-09-2006, 11:31 AM
Jazzbass' tanks (http://www.aquariacentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62968)
The pic isn't very clear, and I need to take pics of the other tanks. And actually, the tank doesn't look like that any more... It is constantly changing. But I am amazed at how easy it is to care for planted tanks.
pwrflpills
01-10-2006, 6:40 PM
Now in my high light CO2 injected tank...some of the older plants have leaves 10 inches or so.
Is your sag a dwarf or regular?
reiverix
01-10-2006, 7:10 PM
Dwarf. There's a large one in my profile picture just to the right of center in front of the lobelia, beside the zucchini :) To the left of it you can see the smaller runners.
My deep-substrate 29 has "dwarf" sag from the substrate to the top, plus the branched bloom spike curled around at the surface. Some dwarf! As with certain Crypts, lights, ferts, carbon, etc. seem to matter a lot to this plant. But I confess that I have not done Sag in many years - being infested with Val seemed quite enough. I wanted at least one tank without Val...