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Jasx
03-14-2003, 1:33 PM
My filter (AquaClear 300 Power Filter) died today, and I was wondering how long I have before I gotta get another one. Are we talking hours? days? or weeks? The fish I got are just some tetras and cories, nothing fancy.

O and if you can recommand which new filter to buy that'd be great too. My tank is 30g.

thom336
03-14-2003, 1:39 PM
many fishkeepers actually keep fish without filters. it helps if your tanks understocked...water changes every few days should keep things sweet. i would get a new filter sooner rather than later, and the choice is really upto you. i find the best ones to be the new fluval plus range...best filters on the market in my opinion. they do their job impeciably well, and are literally silent..not a sound comes out of them. they come in four sizes...for 1ft tanks, 2ft tanks, 3ft tanks & 4ft tanks.

OrionGirl
03-14-2003, 1:44 PM
What do you mean by 'died'? Sometimes the AC needs to have the powerhead cleaned out, or a propeller replaced. If need be, the entire powerhead can be replaced with a comparably sized one--no big deal at all. I'd try cleaning it completely before purchasing a new filter.

125gJoe
03-14-2003, 1:52 PM
Originally posted by OrionGirl
What do you mean by 'died'? ..... I agree...

Check the impeller out. Make sure it spins freely. You may need to tap on it or lightly bang it to free up the 'motor'.

If it still doesn't work - find safety googles and the largest hammer you can and bash it to bits! If that's not possible, find a concrete wall and throw it as hard as yor can against the wall. Both can be equally fun and enriching! :D If this is still not possible, you can use it as a potted hoseplant holder...

After this process, as soon as you can, proceed to your nearest local FS and get a new one!

Jasx
03-14-2003, 2:07 PM
Thanks all. I'm sure the whole thing is garbage now since the motor part of it doesnt spin at all. I cleaned it and everything. I plug it in and nothing happens: no noise, and the unit doesnt get warm like normal.

And I thnk I'll do the hammer thing that sounds like more fun! Or maybe a drill mmmmm :D

wdhdoc
03-14-2003, 6:23 PM
In my humble opinion, for a 30 gallon tropical tank you could not go wrong with a Penguin 330 dual biowheel hang on tank power filter, currently about $30 bucks, shipping included, at Petco.com...could have it in 4-5 days by my experience with Petco and could probably have it in 3 days with expedited shipping for another 6 or 7 bucks. This would give you great mechanical, chemical, and biological filtrration...

just my opinion of course.

wdhdoc
03-14-2003, 6:33 PM
I forgot to add that as much as I would like to support my LFS, virtually all dry goods can be purchased at about 1/2 to 2/3 the price at my LFS from the internet aquaria supply stores (petco, petsmart, BigAl's, etc). The penguin 330 at my LFS is 65 bucks at one LFS, and 80 bucks at another! Similar savings I've enjoyed on recent purchases include, for example, a Marineland HOT Magnum Pro for $63 (vs. $95 at lfs)), an Emperor 440 power filter for $45 (vs 80 bucks at LFS), etc.
God bless the LFS trying to make a living, but that's the way it is.

NJ Devils Fan
03-14-2003, 7:03 PM
There is no Emperor 440, its just 400.

You should consider getting an Emperor 280. Great filter. Can't go wrong with it. At Big Al's, its about $30 or so. If I were you, I would get it so you know for the future which one you think is better as that has been much debated here.

Mr.Jingles
03-14-2003, 8:32 PM
you could just buy a new motor for a lot less than a new filter. make sure its for the same model.

scott
03-14-2003, 9:19 PM
I have an emperor 280 on my 29g and it works great. I got it for 35 dollars including shipping ( I think) from big Al's. I like the extra container as you can put carbon or peat etc. in it without messing with the filter.

125gJoe
03-14-2003, 10:07 PM
Originally posted by Mr.Jingles
you could just buy a new motor for a lot less than a new filter. make sure its for the same model. Where would you get one.. Just curious.

NJDevilsFan, I must say I've seen Emperor filters and I think they are better than Penguins' BioWheels... I have not tried one, but in the near future I may get one for the 'nano reef' 7 gallon ..(hate to mention anything of saltwater here..) --Penguin's biowheel "crapped out" real quick. :mad: Gotta Mini AquaClear for now..

fishcowboy
03-14-2003, 10:29 PM
I was just in Petsmart today and for some strange reason, they had all sorts of spare parts and motors in. Really unusual for them to have in as much as they did. They ususally have just a few impellers and such. But that's just for my local one.

BTW, I love my Penguin's. Well over a year on the 3 that I have, with no issues...yet.

Just my 2 cents.

Forum221
03-15-2003, 12:27 AM
Yes, I agree with fishcowboy. I have had all penguins for about 6 month and have nad no problems with them. If you are really worried about the spinning of the wheel, you should get a Emperior.

NJ Devils Fan
03-15-2003, 9:08 AM
I wasn't talking about Emperors v.s. Penguins, I mean Emperors v.s. Aqua Clears.

somefinnfishy
03-15-2003, 9:29 AM
You can replace your motor with the motor from a AC mini you can get those for like 14-15 dollars at any big box pet store.
Or a midnight trip to wallmart may be in order here.
You could buy a cheap replacement now and order a real filter online.